The faux Pope actually claimed "Jews have no right to the land of Israel or to Jerusalem"??
Where and when did he say that? If not verbatim, clearly implied?
I have some problems with how this pope has publicly displayed his words about the Holy Land, about Jews, and about Palestinians. Yes, I am bothered by it because the free world is already screwed up enough on understanding the conflict. And far too many who should understand the conflict who are in influential roles are anti-Israel. It is confounding.
Still, I do not appreciate lies or demagoguery to further impugn someone. So if he did say that then I will apologize for doubting you.
It is not clear to me that the filthy POOP actually said "jews have no rights in "Palestine"----but by recognizing "Palestine" and by referring to the animal ABU MAZEN as an "ANGEL of PEACE" what ever that means----he has endorsed the Hamas and abu mazen agenda of the destruction of Israel and murder of its citizens. He is shit
Yes, except the pope never called Abu Mazen an angel of peace. He said he had the opportunity to be an angel of peace. Of course, you did not expect the anti-Israeli Western media to be fair about it? Instead they ran with the more incendiary made up quote.
As a devout Catholic, I am troubled by Pope Francis somewhat thoughtless way of expressing peaceful overtures and trying to build up the goodness in some political leaders who would be better off ignored. I put the Palestinian overtures on the top of the list. I also have issues with his getting involved with Cuba, with evolution and with climate change. Israel is vilified enough, no reason to suggest both sides are basically equal to blame. But having said all that, I still maintain this pope has done and said many great things for a lost and sinful world. All men have faults, even saints and this pope, too.
since you are a devout catholic----I am a bit reluctant to say-------here it is--------I was a child long ago-----and I recall some people simply did not like POPE PIUS. Then as an adolescent I do recall------something that NEWSWEEK called "THE DEPUTY"------I was very young but a kinda precoscious "reader" ------"THE DEPUTY" came out shortly after the trial of ADOLF EICHMANN ----- the combined story was not nice------but on a LEVEL ----understandable-----Pius had to worry about the fate of catholics in Nazi Germany. --------so my Austrian relatives were expendable-------not that I had much emotion invested in them------I never knew them. It seems to me that FRANCIS is a champion of PIUS-----a man my mom sneered at whenever she saw his portrait hanging in the living room of catholic neighbors. ----------sorry----but I am not all that delighted with FRANCIS ---including his disengeuous embrace of homosexuals------that people called FAGGOTS by the Vatican during the same era they were creating bonfires out of the other side of the family ----fuel--------for the AUTO DE FE-----I am coming to the conclusion that FRANCIS STINKS
I am neither prepared or in a position to take the time to adequately refute some of your claims. So they will persist.
But suffice it to say, if you or the world are going to use "The Deputy" as a prime source for your accusations, I find that to be grossly disingenuous. That play has been roundly discredited in recent times, even by those well-knowns who attack Pius XII today.
Here is an excerpt from the link
A Pius Legend Catholic Answers
The Deputy, even to Pius’s most strenuous detractors, is readily dismissed.
John Cornwell in Hitler’s Pope describes it in this way:
[It is] historical fiction based on scant documentation. . . . The characterization of [Pius XII] as a money-grubbing hypocrite is so wide of the mark as to be ludicrous. Importantly, however, Hocchuth’s play offends the most basic criteria of documentary: that such stories and portrayals are valid only if they are demonstrably true.
Yet
The Deputy, despite its evident flaws, prejudices, and lack of historicity, laid the foundation for the charges against Pius XII five years after his death. Why? Because there was fertile ground for an anti-Pius reaction.
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As far as Pope Francis goes, once again I find him to be much maligned by those who want to besmirch the Catholic Church in every way. I already admitted that I lamented his overly kindness to Palestinian leaders and their plight at the expense of making Israel look the bad guy. But he has also praised the Jewish state of Israel as well. Catholicism must show mercy and sympathy to all who suffer, and sometimes they say things that go too far. But I challenge anyone to tell me what religion one should follow that best offers the fullness of truth? (PS -- I surely do not need that unstable zealot on this board 'j' chiming in with her oh-so-selective Bible verses to pretend she has the answers at this time. She is unworthy of any kind of dialog.)
