Poll to condemn or condone "the violence and law breaking that took place inside the Capital on 1/6"

[easyt65]

 

[easyt65]

What murder? A criminal insurgent was shot attacking the seat of our government.

It was a good shoot!

Funny how you snowflakes wet yourselves raise hell about armed, violent blacks resisting arrest, refusing to comply with the police, gets shot and dies yet make jokes about an unarmed, white, female military veteran being shot and murdered in the capitol by a black police officer with an incompetent past who exercised unnecessary / inappropriately used deadly force...for trespassing.

Pretty sick, but standard for snowflakes.

 

[Faun]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"

"You need to pull back our resources."

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

 

[Correll]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

 

[Faun]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

 

[Correll]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

 

[Faun]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

 

[Correll]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

Oh, the cops aren't lefties. The people in charge of the cops are. And they, ie you dems, have been setting them up for failure repeatedly over the last few years, from underfunding, to releasing criminals, to restrictive rules of engagement to outright ordering them to stand down.

Showing me a force of cops that get overwhelmed by a large crowd, doesn't explain why they were not giving enough manpower, or who didn't guard their flanks or any number of questions as to why they were unable to do their job.

 

[Faun]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

Oh, the cops aren't lefties. The people in charge of the cops are. And they, ie you dems, have been setting them up for failure repeatedly over the last few years, from underfunding, to releasing criminals, to restrictive rules of engagement to outright ordering them to stand down.

LOL

Your evidence of that is...?

 

[Correll]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

Oh, the cops aren't lefties. The people in charge of the cops are. And they, ie you dems, have been setting them up for failure repeatedly over the last few years, from underfunding, to releasing criminals, to restrictive rules of engagement to outright ordering them to stand down.

LOL

Your evidence of that is...?

Well, all the police being ordered to stand down while you people riot and burn and kill. I mean, just because this ONE time, it was a right leaning mob instead of a left leaning mob, is no reason to not notice the similarities.

 

[Faun]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

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"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

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Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

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Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

Oh, the cops aren't lefties. The people in charge of the cops are. And they, ie you dems, have been setting them up for failure repeatedly over the last few years, from underfunding, to releasing criminals, to restrictive rules of engagement to outright ordering them to stand down.

LOL

Your evidence of that is...?

Well, all the police being ordered to stand down while you people riot and burn and kill. I mean, just because this ONE time, it was a right leaning mob instead of a left leaning mob, is no reason to not notice the similarities.

Those were local police departments where you also possess zero evidence of their commanders' political leanings.

But we're talking about Insurrection Day -- is this your way of conceding you made that up?

 

[Correll]

Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.

Can you give us a link to that "order"?

Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.


Really, that was a stupid question. With all due respect.

Explain why we have footage of cops waving the protestors to enter into the capitol building.

Because they were vastly outnumbered by Trump's thugs and overwhelmed.

That would be a reason to retreat, not to wave them in.

there was no opportunity to retreat safely.

What makes you say that?

In the bank robber's defense the bank teller did hand over the money.

You're welcome to support the claim made too. Just insisting is not very convincing.

My point stands. We have seen video of hte cops waving the protestors into the capitol building. That raises questions as to why.

I answered your question.

You offered a possible alternative explanation. You've done nothing to show that it is the real reason.

Here's the police announcing they "lost the line" and to retreat.

​

​

"Multiple Capitol injuries! Multiple Capitol injuries!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, they are behind our lines!"​

​

"You need to pull back our resources."​

​

"If you need to go inside or pull back if they're getting behind you, you don't have enough resources."​

​

"If I give this up, they're gonna have direct access! We gotta hold what we have!"​

​

"Cruiser 50. We've lost the line! We've lost the line!"​

​

"All MPD pull back up to the upper deck! All MPD pull back up to the upper deck ASAP! Upper deck!"​

​

"Cruiser 50, we're flanked!"​

​

"10-33! I repeat, 10-33, west front of the Capitol."​

​

"We have been flanked and we lost the line!"​

And here's officers being suspended for inappropriate behavior with Trump's thugs...

6 Capitol police officers suspended, 35 under investigation after Capitol riot, spokesperson says

A spokesperson for the U.S. Capitol Police has confirmed to FOX 5 that the Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers on Jan. 6, the day of the riot at the Capitol, and suspended six officers with pay.

www.fox5dc.com

​

Some officers are seen standing along a doorway almost motionless as people file into the Capitol.​

​

At least two accused rioters have told the FBI a Capitol Police officer told them, "It’s your house now."​

​

Lawmakers have stated that one officer suspended took a selfie with someone and another was seen wearing a MAGA hat.​

​

In a video, that officer wearing the hat asks two men if they can help him get through the crowd to help other officers inside the Capitol.​

​

The officer hands one of the men his megaphone and says, "I’ll follow you." The video was taken by Rico La Starza who says he was visiting D.C. and went to the Capitol and started filming when he saw what was happening.​

Which, while it does NOT explain the "waving them on", it doe raises another interesting question. Why the lack of resources?

Certainly they knew how pissed off Trump supporters were and how large the protest was likely to be. Why did they not have more people there?

It's a shame Republicans blocked the call for a Congressional investigation. Now we'll have to wait for the results of subcommittee investigations to learn the reason for that and for why it took so long to get the National Guard deployed. Still, as you can see from that video, police did not welcome them inside the Capitol until they were overwhelmed and overrun by thugs.

I'm not denying that it was a riot. The question being discussed is whether it was an orchestrated riot, with lefty infiltrators and a police force set up to let it happen.

Well you were shown the police did everything they could to keep Trump's thugs out. Only after they were overwhelmed and overrun did they cease trying to keep them out. And you possess zero evidence of which cops were "lefties," no less, "infiltrators." I note your desperation to try to shift blame away from Trump's thugs.

Oh, the cops aren't lefties. The people in charge of the cops are. And they, ie you dems, have been setting them up for failure repeatedly over the last few years, from underfunding, to releasing criminals, to restrictive rules of engagement to outright ordering them to stand down.

LOL

Your evidence of that is...?

Well, all the police being ordered to stand down while you people riot and burn and kill. I mean, just because this ONE time, it was a right leaning mob instead of a left leaning mob, is no reason to not notice the similarities.

Those were local police departments where you also possess zero evidence of their commanders' political leanings.

But we're talking about Insurrection Day -- is this your way of conceding you made that up?

lo!! Dem cities ruled by dem mayors repeatedly having cops stand down while mass lefty brownshirts did shit from creating "Autonomous Zones" to attacking federal buildings, and you want to pretend that that has not been happening?


As I said, dem cities have shown a pattern of having cops fail to control riots. That this one time, it was a right leaning riot, does not mean that the similarities are not to be discussed.

 

[easyt65]

 

[easyt65]

More Liberal / Snowflake Logic:

 

[easyt65]

 

[Chillicothe]

Well, all the police being ordered to stand down while you people riot and burn and kill.

Ummm? "You people"?
On this chatroom?
Burning and killing?

Do tell.


Ah, poster Correll, not only are you trying too hard, you are taking these discussions too seriously (ps...it's the friggin internet, Skippy); and you seem to also be trying hard to personalize these disturbances.

"You people".....being posters on this venue who are skeptical of your assertions?
Or the George Floyd protests with the vandalism that accompanied some of the demonstrations?

If that is what you are asserting, well, it naturally leads all to believe that you include your avatar in the 'we insurrectionists' grouping. The loons who beat the crap out of uniformed police while screaming Blue Lives Matter?
Or 'we insurrectionists' who smeared our feces on the walls of the People's House?

See, poster Correll, you are trying way too hard to make this an us vs them dynamic: 'You people'....vs. 'us insurrectionists'.

You shouldn't do that.
It's a bad look for you.

IMHO

 

[Correll]

Well, all the police being ordered to stand down while you people riot and burn and kill.

Ummm? "You people"?
On this chatroom?
Burning and killing?

Do tell.


Ah, poster Correll, not only are you trying too hard, you are taking these discussions too seriously (ps...it's the friggin internet, Skippy); and you seem to also be trying hard to personalize these disturbances.

"You people".....being posters on this venue who are skeptical of your assertions?
Or the George Floyd protests with the vandalism that accompanied some of the demonstrations?

If that is what you are asserting, well, it naturally leads all to believe that you include your avatar in the 'we insurrectionists' grouping. The loons who beat the crap out of uniformed police while screaming Blue Lives Matter?
Or 'we insurrectionists' who smeared our feces on the walls of the People's House?

See, poster Correll, you are trying way too hard to make this an us vs them dynamic: 'You people'....vs. 'us insurrectionists'.

You shouldn't do that.
It's a bad look for you.

IMHO

It is clear from the way the lefty posters on this site defend the rioters, that they/you identify or ally with the rioters, at least morally and politically speaking.


That is the way you people look. Deal with it.

 

[Chillicothe]

"That is the way you people look."

Oh, I wouldn't say that.
Seems like a fantagasm by the RWNJ-universe.

On the other hand, there is an argument to be made (not that I'm he one to do it).....but an argument to be made that those who support the January 6th invaders (a gay riot if Correll agrees with his doppelganger EMH)....that those who support that 'gay riot' that beat the crap out of uniformed officers...well they, morally and politically speaking support the ethos of Blue Lives Don't Matter One Whit if they are only defending the Capitol of the United States of America.

If that's the boat you are in, poster Correll.......
......Make sure you have a paddle up that particular creek.

 

[Correll]

"That is the way you people look."

Oh, I wouldn't say that.
Seems like a fantagasm by the RWNJ-universe.

On the other hand, there is an argument to be made (not that I'm he one to do it).....but an argument to be made that those who support the January 6th invaders (a gay riot if Correll agrees with his doppelganger EMH)....that those who support that 'gay riot' that beat the crap out of uniformed officers...well they, morally and politically speaking support the ethos of Blue Lives Don't Matter One Whit if they are only defending the Capitol of the United States of America.

If that's the boat you are in, poster Correll.......
......Make sure you have a paddle up that particular creek.

"That is the way you people look."

Oh, I wouldn't say that.
Seems like a fantagasm by the RWNJ-universe.

On the other hand, there is an argument to be made (not that I'm he one to do it).....but an argument to be made that those who support the January 6th invaders (a gay riot if Correll agrees with his doppelganger EMH)....that those who support that 'gay riot' that beat the crap out of uniformed officers...well they, morally and politically speaking support the ethos of Blue Lives Don't Matter One Whit if they are only defending the Capitol of the United States of America.

If that's the boat you are in, poster Correll.......
......Make sure you have a paddle up that particular creek.

I would say that. You people have been clear in your defense of lefty rioters. That is a fair generalization to make against you.

Meanwhile as the poll shows in this thread, as a group the conservatives do NOT support the 1/6 riot. So, the rest of your post is nonsense.

 

[Chillicothe]

"You people have been clear in your defense of lefty rioters."

"You people"?

So, poster Correll.....are you all in, with your Rightside doppelganger EMH that the Capitol thingy was merely a 'gay' invasion? Another Stonewall Riot?
Too, are you, poster Correll, all in with your Rightside doppelganger 'Rancid' that Bill Barr is gonna be executed on August 2nd, for treason?

"You people"!
??