Poll to condemn or condone "the violence and law breaking that took place inside the Capital on 1/6"

Do you support the "violence and law breaking that took place inside the Capital on 1/6"?

  • I'm a GOP voter and NO I do NOT support the attack on the Capital Building

    Votes: 35 33.3%
  • I'm a GOP voter and YES I do support the attack on the Capital Building

    Votes: 11 10.5%
  • I'm a democrat and I condemn the 1/6 attack on the Capital Building

    Votes: 22 21.0%
  • Other, see my post

    Votes: 37 35.2%

  • Total voters
    105
Insurrection is defined by the goal of the actors.
Trying to alter the results of an election through physical disruption of the democratic process is an insurrection.

Please tell us, oh TDS-suffering, irrational hate-driven, Marxist Socialist talking points parroter, how unarmed, selfie-taking trespassers were going to alter the 2020 election?

Now compare that incident to the Democrat/foreign-supported domestic terrorists whose violent 'insurrection' caused the President and his family to be rushed to the WH bunker while agents from the FBI, DHS, & Secret Service along with the Capitol and Local Police were forced to engage and push back the violent terrorists, resulting in 14 Secret Service members being injured, the DC mayor ordering new security fencing be installed, the clearing of the park by police IOT put up that fencing, and another Debunked LIE / 'Conspiracy Theory' about Trump having something to d with the clearing of the park.

In the end, this is just another one of MANY incidents in which Democrats accuse others of doing what they have already done and of being who they are.
the reason Trump went to hide in his bunker last summer and setup barriers around whitehouse is that he wanted to shoot protesters, even the peaceful ones


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The vast majority of republicans have voted to condemn the 1/6 rioters.


Your talk of "soft" is just you lying. Like the liberal you are.
whats the point of condemning them?
what really matters is a commission to investigate it.
two republicans voted for investigation.



The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
That's what y'all do. You did (and still do it) it with followers of Islam. Y'all do it with BLM.

just more Republican projection...


Did you forget that I was the republican that made a big deal about Trump increasing his black male vote?

Almost like I can distinguish between sub groups based on their behavior.


My point stands.

The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
Not even close. Nobody is asking for all Republicans to be thrown in jail, just the rioters. Nobody is trying to ban Republicans from entering the country like Trump tried to ban Muslims.

The only people I see “using” the riot are Trump wannabes. They are using it to make money.


Bullshit. The riot is being used to smear republicans and Trump supporters as a group. Hell, the meme right above does that. You posted in this thread, but didn't say anything about it. Do you support that behavior, or are you just remaining quite while other more partisan lefties do it?
Saying that the rioters/terrorists on January 6 were all Republican is a true statement. Saying that all Republicans are rioters and terrorists is not a true statement.

It is similar to the statement that not all Republicans are racist but most racist are Republicans.


1. Note that you had to quality "all rioters". How ironic. ANd you can't see it even now can you?

2. We have one admitted antifa guy who was there agitating. It is a plausible theory.

3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. My apologies. Let me rephrase. Not all Trumpsters rioted, but most of the rioters were Trumpsters.

2. Did you link to this alleged "antifa guy"? Who is this alleged individual?

3. Pointing out the undeniable fact that you are a racist isn't baiting, it's stating facts.

1. Plenty of rioters that are not trump supporters. Indeed, the vast majority are leftards.

2.


"Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian,"


3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. Not on January 6th. That day it was all Trump supporters.

2. Fact Check: Was a member of Antifa arrested in the Capitol riot?

The Ruling​

False.​
None of the 230 people arrested for alleged participation in the Capitol attacks were linked to any left-wing movement. There is no evidence that Sullivan was a member of Antifa, Black Lives Matter or any other left-leaning group, especially a "leader" of Antifa.​

3. Just stating the fact that you are a racist. Facts are facts and not baiting. You believe yourself to be better and smarter than people with more melanin than you. (SPOILER ALERT...you aren't)


1. YOu assume.

2. Sorry. He self identifies as a "wacial justice" what have you. THat makes him yours.

3. Better? I never said better. That was the voices in your head, mr wacistbaiter.
1. We conclude based on ALL the evidence.
2. Not ANTIFA, not BLM, not the FBI. It was all Trumpsters
3. You believe you are more intelligent based on the color of your skin. You're not.


1. We have one proven example of a lefty infiltrator. That disproves your claim of "all" and raises the possibility of more.

2. You admitted that the iq gap is real. Now you are talking shit.
1. I debunked your "proven lefty"
2. I provided evidence that the ID gap doe as not mean whites are more intelligent than blacks as racists believe (and you, apparently...guess that makes you racist)


1. No, you didn't. He is a self identified "wacial justice" type. That makes him yours.

2. No, you argued for environmental causes. That does not negate the gap, it is just an attempt to explain it away. The gap is still there. your confusing on this is kind of sad.
1. Sorry, Trumpster, the January 6th riot is all on Trump cultists.

2. What is sad is your need to feel superior to people of color. (You aren’t superior in any way, shape or form) What you are is straight up racist.


1. That you would like about sullivan demonstrates that you and people like you, could be lying about others.

2. I've never claimed to be superior. That was something you made up in your head.
1. The scores of Trump supporters that have been arrested paint a different story. The riot on January 6 was Trump supporters.

2. That’s good because you aren’t. You aren’t more intelligent or superior in any way, shape or form.


1. You said all. Now you seem to be arguing majority. Are you walking it back? Sullivan is a lefty.

2. You missed my point on purpose in order to make a personal attack. That was you losing. My point stands. I don't judge personal worth by intelligence. That being said, ignoring the reality of the iq gap sets us up for failure.
Sullivan is not and was not a lefty. He was disavowed by BLM months before 1/6 and his brother is affiliated with the Proud Boys.

You know better.

Stop lying

You let men self identify as women, but you refuse to admit that a self identified wacial justice activist journalist is a lefty?


LOL!!!! You denial is fucking retarded.

Sullivan proves that there was at least one lefty infiltrator. Where there is one, there could be more. Anyone that tries to dismiss that as an implausible conspiracy theory is a fucking liar.
 
Insurrection is defined by the goal of the actors.
Trying to alter the results of an election through physical disruption of the democratic process is an insurrection.

Please tell us, oh TDS-suffering, irrational hate-driven, Marxist Socialist talking points parroter, how unarmed, selfie-taking trespassers were going to alter the 2020 election?

Now compare that incident to the Democrat/foreign-supported domestic terrorists whose violent 'insurrection' caused the President and his family to be rushed to the WH bunker while agents from the FBI, DHS, & Secret Service along with the Capitol and Local Police were forced to engage and push back the violent terrorists, resulting in 14 Secret Service members being injured, the DC mayor ordering new security fencing be installed, the clearing of the park by police IOT put up that fencing, and another Debunked LIE / 'Conspiracy Theory' about Trump having something to d with the clearing of the park.

In the end, this is just another one of MANY incidents in which Democrats accuse others of doing what they have already done and of being who they are.
the reason Trump went to hide in his bunker last summer and setup barriers around whitehouse is that he wanted to shoot protesters, even the peaceful ones


61n6sf88ll871.jpg


The vast majority of republicans have voted to condemn the 1/6 rioters.


Your talk of "soft" is just you lying. Like the liberal you are.
whats the point of condemning them?
what really matters is a commission to investigate it.
two republicans voted for investigation.



The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
That's what y'all do. You did (and still do it) it with followers of Islam. Y'all do it with BLM.

just more Republican projection...


Did you forget that I was the republican that made a big deal about Trump increasing his black male vote?

Almost like I can distinguish between sub groups based on their behavior.


My point stands.

The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
Not even close. Nobody is asking for all Republicans to be thrown in jail, just the rioters. Nobody is trying to ban Republicans from entering the country like Trump tried to ban Muslims.

The only people I see “using” the riot are Trump wannabes. They are using it to make money.


Bullshit. The riot is being used to smear republicans and Trump supporters as a group. Hell, the meme right above does that. You posted in this thread, but didn't say anything about it. Do you support that behavior, or are you just remaining quite while other more partisan lefties do it?
Saying that the rioters/terrorists on January 6 were all Republican is a true statement. Saying that all Republicans are rioters and terrorists is not a true statement.

It is similar to the statement that not all Republicans are racist but most racist are Republicans.


1. Note that you had to quality "all rioters". How ironic. ANd you can't see it even now can you?

2. We have one admitted antifa guy who was there agitating. It is a plausible theory.

3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. My apologies. Let me rephrase. Not all Trumpsters rioted, but most of the rioters were Trumpsters.

2. Did you link to this alleged "antifa guy"? Who is this alleged individual?

3. Pointing out the undeniable fact that you are a racist isn't baiting, it's stating facts.

1. Plenty of rioters that are not trump supporters. Indeed, the vast majority are leftards.

2.


"Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian,"


3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. Not on January 6th. That day it was all Trump supporters.

2. Fact Check: Was a member of Antifa arrested in the Capitol riot?

The Ruling​

False.​
None of the 230 people arrested for alleged participation in the Capitol attacks were linked to any left-wing movement. There is no evidence that Sullivan was a member of Antifa, Black Lives Matter or any other left-leaning group, especially a "leader" of Antifa.​

3. Just stating the fact that you are a racist. Facts are facts and not baiting. You believe yourself to be better and smarter than people with more melanin than you. (SPOILER ALERT...you aren't)


1. YOu assume.

2. Sorry. He self identifies as a "wacial justice" what have you. THat makes him yours.

3. Better? I never said better. That was the voices in your head, mr wacistbaiter.
1. We conclude based on ALL the evidence.
2. Not ANTIFA, not BLM, not the FBI. It was all Trumpsters
3. You believe you are more intelligent based on the color of your skin. You're not.


1. We have one proven example of a lefty infiltrator. That disproves your claim of "all" and raises the possibility of more.

2. You admitted that the iq gap is real. Now you are talking shit.
1. I debunked your "proven lefty"
2. I provided evidence that the ID gap doe as not mean whites are more intelligent than blacks as racists believe (and you, apparently...guess that makes you racist)


1. No, you didn't. He is a self identified "wacial justice" type. That makes him yours.

2. No, you argued for environmental causes. That does not negate the gap, it is just an attempt to explain it away. The gap is still there. your confusing on this is kind of sad.
1. Sorry, Trumpster, the January 6th riot is all on Trump cultists.

2. What is sad is your need to feel superior to people of color. (You aren’t superior in any way, shape or form) What you are is straight up racist.


1. That you would like about sullivan demonstrates that you and people like you, could be lying about others.

2. I've never claimed to be superior. That was something you made up in your head.
1. The scores of Trump supporters that have been arrested paint a different story. The riot on January 6 was Trump supporters.

2. That’s good because you aren’t. You aren’t more intelligent or superior in any way, shape or form.


1. You said all. Now you seem to be arguing majority. Are you walking it back? Sullivan is a lefty.

2. You missed my point on purpose in order to make a personal attack. That was you losing. My point stands. I don't judge personal worth by intelligence. That being said, ignoring the reality of the iq gap sets us up for failure.
1. Nope, not walking anything back. January 6th was a riot of Trump supporters, period.

2. Saying that you aren't superior to black and brown skinned people is only a personal attack if you're a racist piece of shit that actually feels they are superior in some way. (You are not)


1. Except for the self identified wacial justice "reporter", Sullivan. So, your statement is wrong. Why do you stand by a point you know has been debunked? Do you like looking like a liar?


2. ONly a liar would pretend that calling someone wacist in our society isn't a personal insult. YOu are being an asshole.

3. My point stands. you assumed shit that I never said, and you were an asshole based on your assumptions.

4. The education and IQ gaps are still real. That you want to have a fit about causes, is irrelevant.
1. That’s a pretty ironic statement coming from you who completely ignores all facts and evidence in favor of your “feelings”. Sullivan is a grifter like Trump nothing more. He feeds off all chaos much like Trump.

2. I wasn’t calling you a racist in that statement. I said you aren’t superior to people of color. You seem to take that as an insult. It’s not an insult it’s a statement of fact.

3. I haven’t seen you make any points, only express your feelings.

4. The IQ gap is real but it isn’t based on intelligence. You aren’t more intelligent than people of color. I know that bothers you but it’s true nonetheless.


1. Sullivan self identifies as a wacial justice activist. That makes him one of yours.

2. I never claimed to be superior.

3. Bullshit.

4. You constantly try to make this personal. The point remains. The iq gap is real. That matters. It explains much that people like you want to blame on wacism.
1. Sullivan shows up wherever there is conflict in order to sell footage. That makes him a grifter like Trump.

2. Good because you’re not. You’re not more intelligent either.

3. Sorry sweet cheeks that’s true shit.

4. The IQ gap is real but does not reflect decreased intelligence in black and brown people. Education is not a reflection of intelligence. You want to ascribe greater intelligence to single race. That’s junk science

Racism in education is real despite your repeated denials of facts and studies.



1. His job might be what passes for "journalism" today, but ideologically he is one of yours. Your denial is a lie and supports my point that you people have anti-credibility.

2. i.q. tests say otherwise. Generally speaking.

3. I assign nothing. The stats show the difference. You admit the difference. Our disagreement is on cause. You want to explain it away, because it clashes with your ideology.

4. What if the education gap is a result of broken families and/or lower I.Q. and you spend the next 4O years, persecuting white, supposedly wacist teachers and administrators, and have no positive effect?
1. His job is chaos chasing grifter....which makes him EXACTLY like Trump.

2. No, they really don't. I understand it's important to you that you believe yourself to be more intelligent than blacks. You are not.



Ten years ago, our grasp of the actual science was firm enough for Craig Venter, the American biologist who led the private effort to decode the human genome, to respond to claims of a link between race and intelligence by declaring: “There is no basis in scientific fact or in the human genetic code for the notion that skin colour will be predictive of intelligence.”


1. He is a leftist who infiltrated the crowd under false pretenses. Something you are denying as a possibility while admitting that it happened. Standard lefty lying.

2. Thus, the belief that the riot might have been caused by lefty infiltrators, and/or with the help of deep state operatives, is plausble.


3. Sounds like he is playing word games. I note he does not deny the I.Q. gap. He just states that they have not found any cause. That's fine. I didn't claim a cause, just noted the gap.


4. How many times are you going to accuse white people, even white liberals (teachers) of wacism, when you know the real issue is the i.q. gap? How many people do you want to fire or ruin, because you accuse them of wacism, when you know the real cause is the i.q. gap? How much money do you want to spend trying to root out wacism, when you know the real causa is the i.q. gap?
1. Lets pretend for a second that your contention is true. And? One guy who purports to be a "lefty" (that no leftist group will admit to his membership) was there filming so he could sell the footage. So what? That doesn't change ANY of the facts. The riot was still made up entirely of Trump supporters.

2. :lol: No, skippy that is not plausible on Earth One. Hell, it's even a stretch on Earth Two.

3. What it sounds like is a racists trying to feel superior. How sad is your life that you need to believe you're more intelligent than blacks? (Your'e not)

4. I'm simply pointing out facts that you don't like. Institutionalized racism exists. It exists in our education, justice, employment, healthcare and housing. The only way to eradicate it is to recognize it exists. Racists don't want to eradicate it so they deny it exists.


1. The riot was not made up entirely of Trump supporters. We know of at least one lefty who infiltrated under false pretenses. Right there that a. disproves your claim and b. raises the possibility of others.

2. If one lefty can infiltrate, others could too. How many professional, experienced agitators do you need to start a riot? Especially when you have teh police waving in protestors into the building?

3. Not my intent at all. That was just shit you assumed. You are an asshole.

4. Repeatedly asserting shit, is not pointing out facts. You have demonstrated that you assume shit and just build on top of that, and think it so and are an asshole based on it.
1. Yeah, it was. It was Trump supporters that rioted and stormed the capital and are now getting arrested.

2. Nobody "infiltrated". It wasn't BLM, ANTIFA or the FBI.

3. I made a logical conclusion based on your statements and your (wrong) belief that you are smarter than black people because you are white.

I'd much rather be perceived as an asshole than a racist. studies

5. Providing links and studies are facts. You countering with "I don't believe your studies" isn't providing evidence to the contrary. "Nuh uh" isn't an argument.


1. Your denial at this point is retarded. The most you can reasonable claim is that it was nearly all Trump supporters.

3. You assumed and now I have pointed out that you were wrong. If you really gave a fuck about not being an asshole, this is where you would start asking clarifying questions, instead of just saying WACIST over and over again, like an asshole.

5. Citing non-credible authorities is a fail. You have to make your case yourself. Or admit that you cannot.
 
Insurrection is defined by the goal of the actors.
Trying to alter the results of an election through physical disruption of the democratic process is an insurrection.

Please tell us, oh TDS-suffering, irrational hate-driven, Marxist Socialist talking points parroter, how unarmed, selfie-taking trespassers were going to alter the 2020 election?

Now compare that incident to the Democrat/foreign-supported domestic terrorists whose violent 'insurrection' caused the President and his family to be rushed to the WH bunker while agents from the FBI, DHS, & Secret Service along with the Capitol and Local Police were forced to engage and push back the violent terrorists, resulting in 14 Secret Service members being injured, the DC mayor ordering new security fencing be installed, the clearing of the park by police IOT put up that fencing, and another Debunked LIE / 'Conspiracy Theory' about Trump having something to d with the clearing of the park.

In the end, this is just another one of MANY incidents in which Democrats accuse others of doing what they have already done and of being who they are.
the reason Trump went to hide in his bunker last summer and setup barriers around whitehouse is that he wanted to shoot protesters, even the peaceful ones


61n6sf88ll871.jpg


The vast majority of republicans have voted to condemn the 1/6 rioters.


Your talk of "soft" is just you lying. Like the liberal you are.
whats the point of condemning them?
what really matters is a commission to investigate it.
two republicans voted for investigation.



The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
That's what y'all do. You did (and still do it) it with followers of Islam. Y'all do it with BLM.

just more Republican projection...


Did you forget that I was the republican that made a big deal about Trump increasing his black male vote?

Almost like I can distinguish between sub groups based on their behavior.


My point stands.

The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
Not even close. Nobody is asking for all Republicans to be thrown in jail, just the rioters. Nobody is trying to ban Republicans from entering the country like Trump tried to ban Muslims.

The only people I see “using” the riot are Trump wannabes. They are using it to make money.


Bullshit. The riot is being used to smear republicans and Trump supporters as a group. Hell, the meme right above does that. You posted in this thread, but didn't say anything about it. Do you support that behavior, or are you just remaining quite while other more partisan lefties do it?
Saying that the rioters/terrorists on January 6 were all Republican is a true statement. Saying that all Republicans are rioters and terrorists is not a true statement.

It is similar to the statement that not all Republicans are racist but most racist are Republicans.


1. Note that you had to quality "all rioters". How ironic. ANd you can't see it even now can you?

2. We have one admitted antifa guy who was there agitating. It is a plausible theory.

3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. My apologies. Let me rephrase. Not all Trumpsters rioted, but most of the rioters were Trumpsters.

2. Did you link to this alleged "antifa guy"? Who is this alleged individual?

3. Pointing out the undeniable fact that you are a racist isn't baiting, it's stating facts.

1. Plenty of rioters that are not trump supporters. Indeed, the vast majority are leftards.

2.


"Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian,"


3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. Not on January 6th. That day it was all Trump supporters.

2. Fact Check: Was a member of Antifa arrested in the Capitol riot?

The Ruling​

False.​
None of the 230 people arrested for alleged participation in the Capitol attacks were linked to any left-wing movement. There is no evidence that Sullivan was a member of Antifa, Black Lives Matter or any other left-leaning group, especially a "leader" of Antifa.​

3. Just stating the fact that you are a racist. Facts are facts and not baiting. You believe yourself to be better and smarter than people with more melanin than you. (SPOILER ALERT...you aren't)


1. YOu assume.

2. Sorry. He self identifies as a "wacial justice" what have you. THat makes him yours.

3. Better? I never said better. That was the voices in your head, mr wacistbaiter.
1. We conclude based on ALL the evidence.
2. Not ANTIFA, not BLM, not the FBI. It was all Trumpsters
3. You believe you are more intelligent based on the color of your skin. You're not.


1. We have one proven example of a lefty infiltrator. That disproves your claim of "all" and raises the possibility of more.

2. You admitted that the iq gap is real. Now you are talking shit.
1. I debunked your "proven lefty"
2. I provided evidence that the ID gap doe as not mean whites are more intelligent than blacks as racists believe (and you, apparently...guess that makes you racist)


1. No, you didn't. He is a self identified "wacial justice" type. That makes him yours.

2. No, you argued for environmental causes. That does not negate the gap, it is just an attempt to explain it away. The gap is still there. your confusing on this is kind of sad.
1. Sorry, Trumpster, the January 6th riot is all on Trump cultists.

2. What is sad is your need to feel superior to people of color. (You aren’t superior in any way, shape or form) What you are is straight up racist.


1. That you would like about sullivan demonstrates that you and people like you, could be lying about others.

2. I've never claimed to be superior. That was something you made up in your head.
1. The scores of Trump supporters that have been arrested paint a different story. The riot on January 6 was Trump supporters.

2. That’s good because you aren’t. You aren’t more intelligent or superior in any way, shape or form.


1. You said all. Now you seem to be arguing majority. Are you walking it back? Sullivan is a lefty.

2. You missed my point on purpose in order to make a personal attack. That was you losing. My point stands. I don't judge personal worth by intelligence. That being said, ignoring the reality of the iq gap sets us up for failure.
Sullivan is not and was not a lefty. He was disavowed by BLM months before 1/6 and his brother is affiliated with the Proud Boys.

You know better.

Stop lying

You let men self identify as women, but you refuse to admit that a self identified wacial justice activist journalist is a lefty?


LOL!!!! You denial is fucking retarded.

Sullivan proves that there was at least one lefty infiltrator. Where there is one, there could be more. Anyone that tries to dismiss that as an implausible conspiracy theory is a fucking liar.
So far, it's been all Trump supporters that have been arrested and jailed. They even said they were there because Trump told them to.

it is an implausible, and ridiculous on its face, conspiracy theory that's been debunked 12 ways to Sunday.

For weeks Trump fomented his cult, told them to come to the capital and fight. They did. It wasn't ANTIFA, BLM or FBI. It was Trump supporters.
 
"That they are catching them and throwing them in jail....."

Ditto that.

I saw a stat the other day that the FBI/DOJ are averaging 3 arrests a day.....and predicting more to come.
Again, from what I read they have a specific 'target list' of mokes (about 200) that they have photos of them doing bad juju.
And are scrambling to put a name on those faces.

Publicity is the key, it seems to me.
Just keep putting the images of the bad actors out on social media, broadcast media, or whatever.
Sooner or later some disgruntled neighbor, former buddy/girlfriend/boyfriend, prior victim of the moke, or some such.......will dial their Smartphone into the local FBI headquarters and snitch on 'em. Good on that!

Along those lines, my avatar posted on one thread or another recently that some Republican woman who intends to primary one of the GOP Congressman who voted to impeach, anyway......she admits being at the Capitol ("but did not go inside"...per her).........and she describes people she knows who did go inside.

And now "they live in terror" that the FBI is gonna come knocking.

How cool. Good on that x2!

Methinks that wannabe Congresswoman should do her civic duty, her 'good citizen' responsibility, and either persuade her friends to turn themselves in......or.....she herself, drop a dime on 'em.

IMHO
 
1. Yeah, it was. It was Trump supporters that rioted and stormed the capital and are now getting arrested.

2. Nobody "infiltrated". It wasn't BLM, ANTIFA or the FBI.

3. I made a logical conclusion based on your statements and your (wrong) belief that you are smarter than black people because you are white.

I'd much rather be perceived as an asshole than a racist. studies

5. Providing links and studies are facts. You countering with "I don't believe your studies" isn't providing evidence to the contrary. "Nuh uh" isn't an argument.


1. Your denial at this point is retarded. The most you can reasonable claim is that it was nearly all Trump supporters.

3. You assumed and now I have pointed out that you were wrong. If you really gave a fuck about not being an asshole, this is where you would start asking clarifying questions, instead of just saying WACIST over and over again, like an asshole.

5. Citing non-credible authorities is a fail. You have to make your case yourself. Or admit that you cannot.
1. You talking about denial is truly adorable. :lol: You believe the election was "stolen".

2. Stop saying racist things like you believe you are more intelligent than blacks and people won't call you racist.

3. You don't get to decide that they are credible. The overwhelming majority of the scientific world has come to the same conclusion, that race is not an indicator of intelligence and the only people still trying to push such a narrative are racists.
 
Insurrection is defined by the goal of the actors.
Trying to alter the results of an election through physical disruption of the democratic process is an insurrection.

Please tell us, oh TDS-suffering, irrational hate-driven, Marxist Socialist talking points parroter, how unarmed, selfie-taking trespassers were going to alter the 2020 election?

Now compare that incident to the Democrat/foreign-supported domestic terrorists whose violent 'insurrection' caused the President and his family to be rushed to the WH bunker while agents from the FBI, DHS, & Secret Service along with the Capitol and Local Police were forced to engage and push back the violent terrorists, resulting in 14 Secret Service members being injured, the DC mayor ordering new security fencing be installed, the clearing of the park by police IOT put up that fencing, and another Debunked LIE / 'Conspiracy Theory' about Trump having something to d with the clearing of the park.

In the end, this is just another one of MANY incidents in which Democrats accuse others of doing what they have already done and of being who they are.
the reason Trump went to hide in his bunker last summer and setup barriers around whitehouse is that he wanted to shoot protesters, even the peaceful ones


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The vast majority of republicans have voted to condemn the 1/6 rioters.


Your talk of "soft" is just you lying. Like the liberal you are.
whats the point of condemning them?
what really matters is a commission to investigate it.
two republicans voted for investigation.



The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
That's what y'all do. You did (and still do it) it with followers of Islam. Y'all do it with BLM.

just more Republican projection...


Did you forget that I was the republican that made a big deal about Trump increasing his black male vote?

Almost like I can distinguish between sub groups based on their behavior.


My point stands.

The point is that people like you have been trying to smear all republicans with the actions of a tiny group.

That is people like you, using the 1/6 riot to divide this nation in order for partisan advantage.


YOu know that. THat is why you are doing it.
Not even close. Nobody is asking for all Republicans to be thrown in jail, just the rioters. Nobody is trying to ban Republicans from entering the country like Trump tried to ban Muslims.

The only people I see “using” the riot are Trump wannabes. They are using it to make money.


Bullshit. The riot is being used to smear republicans and Trump supporters as a group. Hell, the meme right above does that. You posted in this thread, but didn't say anything about it. Do you support that behavior, or are you just remaining quite while other more partisan lefties do it?
Saying that the rioters/terrorists on January 6 were all Republican is a true statement. Saying that all Republicans are rioters and terrorists is not a true statement.

It is similar to the statement that not all Republicans are racist but most racist are Republicans.


1. Note that you had to quality "all rioters". How ironic. ANd you can't see it even now can you?

2. We have one admitted antifa guy who was there agitating. It is a plausible theory.

3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. My apologies. Let me rephrase. Not all Trumpsters rioted, but most of the rioters were Trumpsters.

2. Did you link to this alleged "antifa guy"? Who is this alleged individual?

3. Pointing out the undeniable fact that you are a racist isn't baiting, it's stating facts.

1. Plenty of rioters that are not trump supporters. Indeed, the vast majority are leftards.

2.


"Sullivan, who has at turns identified himself as a racial justice protester and leftist documentarian,"


3. Your wace baiting is just you being an asshole.
1. Not on January 6th. That day it was all Trump supporters.

2. Fact Check: Was a member of Antifa arrested in the Capitol riot?

The Ruling​

False.​
None of the 230 people arrested for alleged participation in the Capitol attacks were linked to any left-wing movement. There is no evidence that Sullivan was a member of Antifa, Black Lives Matter or any other left-leaning group, especially a "leader" of Antifa.​

3. Just stating the fact that you are a racist. Facts are facts and not baiting. You believe yourself to be better and smarter than people with more melanin than you. (SPOILER ALERT...you aren't)


1. YOu assume.

2. Sorry. He self identifies as a "wacial justice" what have you. THat makes him yours.

3. Better? I never said better. That was the voices in your head, mr wacistbaiter.
1. We conclude based on ALL the evidence.
2. Not ANTIFA, not BLM, not the FBI. It was all Trumpsters
3. You believe you are more intelligent based on the color of your skin. You're not.


1. We have one proven example of a lefty infiltrator. That disproves your claim of "all" and raises the possibility of more.

2. You admitted that the iq gap is real. Now you are talking shit.
1. I debunked your "proven lefty"
2. I provided evidence that the ID gap doe as not mean whites are more intelligent than blacks as racists believe (and you, apparently...guess that makes you racist)


1. No, you didn't. He is a self identified "wacial justice" type. That makes him yours.

2. No, you argued for environmental causes. That does not negate the gap, it is just an attempt to explain it away. The gap is still there. your confusing on this is kind of sad.
1. Sorry, Trumpster, the January 6th riot is all on Trump cultists.

2. What is sad is your need to feel superior to people of color. (You aren’t superior in any way, shape or form) What you are is straight up racist.


1. That you would like about sullivan demonstrates that you and people like you, could be lying about others.

2. I've never claimed to be superior. That was something you made up in your head.
1. The scores of Trump supporters that have been arrested paint a different story. The riot on January 6 was Trump supporters.

2. That’s good because you aren’t. You aren’t more intelligent or superior in any way, shape or form.


1. You said all. Now you seem to be arguing majority. Are you walking it back? Sullivan is a lefty.

2. You missed my point on purpose in order to make a personal attack. That was you losing. My point stands. I don't judge personal worth by intelligence. That being said, ignoring the reality of the iq gap sets us up for failure.
Sullivan is not and was not a lefty. He was disavowed by BLM months before 1/6 and his brother is affiliated with the Proud Boys.

You know better.

Stop lying

You let men self identify as women, but you refuse to admit that a self identified wacial justice activist journalist is a lefty?


LOL!!!! You denial is fucking retarded.

Sullivan proves that there was at least one lefty infiltrator. Where there is one, there could be more. Anyone that tries to dismiss that as an implausible conspiracy theory is a fucking liar.
So far, it's been all Trump supporters that have been arrested and jailed. They even said they were there because Trump told them to.

it is an implausible, and ridiculous on its face, conspiracy theory that's been debunked 12 ways to Sunday.

For weeks Trump fomented his cult, told them to come to the capital and fight. They did. It wasn't ANTIFA, BLM or FBI. It was Trump supporters.

Sullivan has been arrested. He is not a Trump supporter. He infiltrated the crowd under false pretenses.

Why are you making statements that you know to be false?

The most you claim a theory is debunked, as you make false statements to argue against it, the more credible you make the theory look, and the less credible you become.


Though, you already have anti-credibility.
 
1. Yeah, it was. It was Trump supporters that rioted and stormed the capital and are now getting arrested.

2. Nobody "infiltrated". It wasn't BLM, ANTIFA or the FBI.

3. I made a logical conclusion based on your statements and your (wrong) belief that you are smarter than black people because you are white.

I'd much rather be perceived as an asshole than a racist. studies

5. Providing links and studies are facts. You countering with "I don't believe your studies" isn't providing evidence to the contrary. "Nuh uh" isn't an argument.


1. Your denial at this point is retarded. The most you can reasonable claim is that it was nearly all Trump supporters.

3. You assumed and now I have pointed out that you were wrong. If you really gave a fuck about not being an asshole, this is where you would start asking clarifying questions, instead of just saying WACIST over and over again, like an asshole.

5. Citing non-credible authorities is a fail. You have to make your case yourself. Or admit that you cannot.
1. You talking about denial is truly adorable. :lol: You believe the election was "stolen".

2. Stop saying racist things like you believe you are more intelligent than blacks and people won't call you racist.

3. You don't get to decide that they are credible. The overwhelming majority of the scientific world has come to the same conclusion, that race is not an indicator of intelligence and the only people still trying to push such a narrative are racists.

1. Sullivan is yours. He in on tape agitating for more violence. For you to deny this is retarded.

2. I never say racist things. That you find reality wacist, is on you. That you call people names based on your problems is you being an asshole.

3. I saw you people listen to "not w.s." and insist up and down, to this day, that he said, "w.s.". NONE OF YOU ARE CREDIBLE ANYMORE.

4. When all you have to your position, is you saying wacist, you are nothing but a spam bot. Is that really what you want to be?
 
"Sullivan proves that there was at least one lefty infiltrator. Where there is one, there could be more."

You are trying too hard, poster Correll.
Relax. If, as you assert, there were other "leftists" invading the Capitol, well, with the FBI arresting on average 3-a-day more should be showing up any day now. After all, they're not invisible to video cams or smartphones. Or snitches.

The FBI will get 'em if they were there.
And, being 'lefties' as you assert......we could imagine any number of Trumpside invaders would be only too glad to turn in their fellow invaders.
And not even on ideological grounds.....but rather to cut a deal by giving up someone they despise anyway.
Tho , we haven't heard much about that occurring.

So far, the box-score is lookin' dire for your argument.
550'sh or so arrested. Some confessing to their crimes. Some admitting they are Trump supporters. Some declaring they came because Trump told 'em to come. None admitting they are BLM or ANTIFA........ or Women's Temperance, or Rastafarian, or even Democrat.

And this John Sullivan, a self-described 'entrepreneurial journalist' has got a rather iffy reputation for anybody to hang their conviction that he is lives on one side of the divide or the other.
As has been reported, he and his brother, have been 'demonstration/protest' gadflies for some time. And quite willing to provoke a 'disturbance' in order to film it and then sell the video to willing broadcast outlets. (witness: the $70,000 he got for filming the Babbitt shooting, AFTER....he himself ramped up the crowd's temperature at that very barricade.)

In short, poster Correll, while we can admire your passion, John Sullivan seems to be a poor horse to ride into battle with. He swings both ways...maybe all ways, ......depending on the paycheck. Or so it seems.

You got any other lefties you can saddle up?
 
"Sullivan .......is not a Trump supporter. He infiltrated the crowd under false pretenses."

Ummmm? "False pretenses"?

There was a sign-up sheet?
An application?
There were 'qualifications'?
Name tags?

Poster Correll, I mean it......you are trying way way too hard here.
Relax.
 
"Sullivan proves that there was at least one lefty infiltrator. Where there is one, there could be more."

You are trying too hard, poster Correll.
Relax. If, as you assert, there were other "leftists" invading the Capitol, well, with the FBI arresting on average 3-a-day more should be showing up any day now. After all, they're not invisible to video cams or smartphones. Or snitches.

The FBI will get 'em if they were there.
And, being 'lefties' as you assert......we could imagine any number of Trumpside invaders would be only too glad to turn in their fellow invaders.
And not even on ideological grounds.....but rather to cut a deal by giving up someone they despise anyway.
Tho , we haven't heard much about that occurring.

So far, the box-score is lookin' dire for your argument.
550'sh or so arrested. Some confessing to their crimes. Some admitting they are Trump supporters. Some declaring they came because Trump told 'em to come. None admitting they are BLM or ANTIFA........ or Women's Temperance, or Rastafarian, or even Democrat.

And this John Sullivan, a self-described 'entrepreneurial journalist' has got a rather iffy reputation for anybody to hang their conviction that he is lives on one side of the divide or the other.
As has been reported, he and his brother, have been 'demonstration/protest' gadflies for some time. And quite willing to provoke a 'disturbance' in order to film it and then sell the video to willing broadcast outlets. (witness: the $70,000 he got for filming the Babbitt shooting, AFTER....he himself ramped up the crowd's temperature at that very barricade.)

In short, poster Correll, while we can admire your passion, John Sullivan seems to be a poor horse to ride into battle with. He swings both ways...maybe all ways, ......depending on the paycheck. Or so it seems.

You got any other lefties you can saddle up?


THe claim was made that the riot was "all" Trump supporters. Sullivan being there, proves that claim is false.


That is where the discussion is at right now.


Give up the stonewalling and I'll be happy to address your other points.
 
Why are you making statements that you know to be false?
The statements I made are 100% accurate. He WAS disowned by BLM months prior to this. His brother IS affiliated with the Proud Boys. YOU are a lair
Sullivan is yours. He in on tape agitating for more violence.
If he is anyones...he is yours
THe claim was made that the riot was "all" Trump supporters. Sullivan being there, proves that claim is false.
"All"? Predominantly. Like 99.99%
 
THe claim was made that the riot was "all" Trump supporters. Sullivan being there, proves that claim is false.
"All"? Predominantly. Like 99.99%

Better.

So, how many experienced agitators does it take to gin up a riot? Does it matter if the police are in on it, with behavior such as waving "rioters" into the places where they are not supposed to go?
 
"Sullivan .......is not a Trump supporter. He infiltrated the crowd under false pretenses."

Ummmm? "False pretenses"?

There was a sign-up sheet?
An application?
There were 'qualifications'?
Name tags?

Poster Correll, I mean it......you are trying way way too hard here.
Relax.


He wore a trump hat so that the crowd would think he was one of them. But he was not.


NOt sure what part of that, you think is me trying too hard. It felt pretty easy...
 
So, how many experienced agitators does it take to gin up a riot?
How many Proud Boys, One percenters, Oathkeepers were there?

Hundreds


Yes. The crowd was mostly Trump supporters. Nothing I said has denied that, or implied otherwise in any way...

Oh, got it, you didn't want to answer my question, but could not just leave it be...


How many experienced agitators does it take to gin up a riot? Especially if the police are ordered to co-operate.
 
Nope. Criminal conspiracies are notorious for not being transparent.
Really, that was a stupid question.

Well, my avatar has always believed in the old saw....'Them that don't ask, don't get'.

But, the response above does raise other questions, such as: If it is a secret conspiracy and is not transparent, well, how does avataree Correll know about it?

How would he know about something that is secret, notorious, and non-transparent?

I think there may be a tale to be told there. Or a grievance run amok.
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But let's not get lost in the weeds of Correll's imaginary secret orders and conspiracies.

Rather, let's go back to poster Correll's imaginary Leader of the Lefties, John Sullivan.

The single individual where there is some question of his political loyalties.
I mention 'loyalties' 'cause poster Correll says Sulllivan once claimed he was a social justice warrior and thus must be part of another secret effort to mitigate some of our cultural and economic disparities.

OK, if Sullivan said he was a SJW.....let's give him credit for meaning what he says. For walking the walk. Walking his talk.
Which brings us to his walk into the Capitol, wearing Don Trump gear, and cheering with his Trump-geared cohorts and compadres in looting and vandalizing the building and fixtures.

So which is it?
Sullivan the SJW.
Or Sullivan the Trump Wackaloon?


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Lastly, that 'tip-o-the-spear'-thingy.
To the best of my knowledge John Sullivan is the only alleged 'leftie' that poster Correll has fingered.
So let's give Correll an attaboy for his single capture.


But.........only one?
One.....makes a riot?

Probably not.
After all, that one invader Correll focuses on is just .17% (that's less than 1/5th of one percent) of those ARRESTED!
And the FBI estimates about 800 illegally entered the Capitol....that means Sullivan now is .12% (about 1/10th of a 1 percent) of that mob of 800 Trump supporters.
And we haven't even got to the 'thousands' that rioted outside the Capitol. Say it is just 1,000.....then Sullivan is .005 of the 800 inside plus the thousand outside. (1 divided by 1,800)

Do we wanna keep going with ....maybe 2,000 outside? (2,800)
Or maybe 4,000 outside? (4,800)

You see, John Sullivan ...be he a Social Justice Warrior or a Trump Wackaloon is still just one single guy in a sea of thousands.

Do disrespect intended to John Sullivan or avataree, Correll..
 

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