POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

Does Trump's character and history really matter to you?

  • 1. No. I think America has reached a point where I'm willing to overlook both things.

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • 2. The stories of his character and history are lies spread about those who hate him.

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • 3. Other (please comment)

    Votes: 24 60.0%

  • Total voters
    40
Trump was convicted in every court he was tried in.
No he wasn’t. One is not “convicted” of a civil infraction for one; and in the case of a criminal action, one is found “guilty”. One is convicted upon sentencing.

They’re all going away now anyway. They were dreamed-up cases intended to keep Trump from winning the election. No purpose to keep the charade going.
 
1) The persident of the united states
2) The sec of def
3) The sec of the Army (if authority ceded by the Sec of Def)
Well, you haven't a clue.

Only governor's are tasked with the power to activate the NG. The NG are state militia, under the control of that states governor.

Last time I looked, there is no governor of The District of Columbia and DC doesn't qualify for statehood.

Secdef has sole authority over the deployment and not the sec of army.
 

The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.
 
It was from the access hollywood tape.

If you never heard of it, you should crawl back under the rock, you've been hiding under..

Just google Trump and "grab them by the pussy" and you'll get more links than you can count.
Who's pussy was He referring to?
 
Secdef has sole authority over the deployment and not the sec of army.

Sec Def operates under a delegation of authority.

Just like a babysitter.

The parents and the president have ultimate control.
 
Trump was convicted in every court he was tried in.
Trump was found liable in the civil case, in which New York magically changed the statute of limitations so the case could target a supposed interaction from 30 years prior. All of the other cases are getting tossed, which means there are no convictions. Poof! Gone.
 

The President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the District of Columbia National Guard. Command is exercised through the secretary of defense and the commanding general, Joint Force Headquarters (JFHQ), District of Columbia National Guard.
No argument over him being CIC....only trouble for you is he can not deploy NG troops in DC......... :biggrin:
 
Okay, so I'll pledge to keep any criticism or any degree of attacks out of this conversation. Hopefully you will too, but we'll see how it goes.

Full Disclosure: I've been able to adjust my relationships with my Trump-voting friends and family to where we either don't discuss politics, or we just keep our political conversations at a point where we're agreeing on something. That's it. Those relationships are too important to us to risk. Period.

So I'm going to ask you guys the question I would ask them if I were willing to risk those relationships. It's at the heart of my concerns about MAGA, and I know it's a question often asked by people across the political spectrum who remain horrified about what's happening. But clearly, his base (NOT everyone who voted for him, but his BASE), clearly believe America is in serious danger and he is the one person who can fix this.

Personally, while I have several general issue agreements with MAGA (see link at bottom here), I also believe (as do many across the political spectrum) that getting what I may want politically is not worth selling my soul to anyone (and that's what I think it is), let alone a person of such deeply poor moral character and obvious mental instability. I/we also strongly disagree with this simplistic, heavy, ham-handed approach, refusal to collaborate/innovate, and obvious indications of European-style autocratic authoritarianism. That's just my personal opinion.

Please vote/comment, and no attacks are on the way in response. Thanks in advance.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?
It's simple. What politician doesn't have character flaws and/or a history of questionable decisions and outcomes? Given the available candidates this year, you select the candidate that aligns most closely with your political beliefs and has the best odds of winning. Is Trump perfect? Absolutely not, yet he will get shit done and steer the DEI / Woke ship that Democrats have fostered, into a new direction.
 
Sec Def operates under a delegation of authority.

Just like a babysitter.

The parents and the president have ultimate control.
So tell us why POTUS has to delegate his authority.....and not do it directly by himself.
 

And Trumps hand picked Sec of Def was the one who didn't deploy the National Guard.

Trumps hand picked Sec of Def (acting) made that call

You can't blame the pentagon.

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It was from the access hollywood tape.

If you never heard of it, you should crawl back under the rock, you've been hiding under..

Just google Trump and "grab them by the pussy" and you'll get more links than you can count.
Here is transcript , where did he say he grabbed E Jean Carrol's ugly snatch or where he admitted to knowing her or being at the same locagtion where she was:

 
No argument over him being CIC....only trouble for you is he can not deploy NG troops in DC......... :biggrin:
He's commander in chief. The president can order the DC Guard to deploy to Hades.
 
No argument over him being CIC....only trouble for you is he can not deploy NG troops in DC......... :biggrin:
The Capital Police and Metro said they didnt need them. They were recommended by the DOD and Trump.

Not only that the Capital police werent even fully manned.

Hmmmmm
 
Here is transcript , where did he say he grabbed E Jean Carrol's ugly snatch or where he admitted to knowing her or being at the same locagtion where she was:
Trump also denied he knew Stormy Daniels.
Trump also denied knowing anything about payments to Stormy Daniels.

See the pattern of lies yet?
 
He's commander in chief. The president can order the DC Guard to deploy to Hades.
Not on the Capital. He had given permission and the DOD had recommended it and Capital Police said NO.
 
And Trumps hand picked Sec of Def was the one who didn't deploy the National Guard.

Trumps hand picked Sec of Def (acting) made that call

You can't blame the pentagon.

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Lmao.

Thats after the fact on the delay once the crowds got out of hand.

The offered the troops days before. Capital police said NO
 
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