POLL: Let's try to have a serious, interesting, informative conversation about Trump

Does Trump's character and history really matter to you?

  • 1. No. I think America has reached a point where I'm willing to overlook both things.

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • 2. The stories of his character and history are lies spread about those who hate him.

    Votes: 14 35.0%
  • 3. Other (please comment)

    Votes: 24 60.0%

  • Total voters
    40
How true, yet He can not deploy NG troops in DC.
The Washington DC NG is under the direct control of the president of the united states. And through him the Sec of Def.
 
Hence Trump was not tried in that case.

Why call it lies, when I said he was convicted in every case he was
"TRIED" in.

Moron !!!!!!

Learn to read.

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Trump was indicted, charged, and taken to court, where he won.

Dumbass.
 
Bullshit......it was to keep you from getting it not make it go away if you were infected.
If you're infected, and don't die from it. You're CURED.

The vaccine did that.
 
If he wasn’t tried, what was the case doing in court, Simp?
Maybe you need to look up the definition of TRIAL.

It's when you appear before a jury of your peers. All Trumps lawyers did was argue to the judge.

No jury. No Trial. (unless jury was waived, but not in that case)
 
The Washington DC NG is under the direct control of the president of the united states. And through him the Sec of Def.
You are terribly wrong......only thing the prez can do with NG troops in DC is authorize them to be activated and then secdef is totally responsible for their deployment if requested.
 
Trump was indicted, charged, and taken to court, where he won.

Dumbass.
Maybe you don't know criminal procedure. You can appear in court dozens of times before the case goes to trial.

And as you pointed out the Jack Smith case never went to trial.

Hence, not "TRIED" in that instance.
 
If you're infected, and don't die from it. You're CURED.

The vaccine did that.
What if you're infected and not vaccinated?
I know of people who were vaccinated and got The Rona five times...... how's the cure?
 
I'm saying a bulletproof vest, like the COVID vaccine was designed to keep people alive.

Not to protect them from being shot or infected.
that argument might work except for simple fact that Fauci and company all claimed it prevented you from getting it and protected you from getting again if you had it.
 
Trump was convicted in every court he was tried in.
LOL link please to all these supposed fraud trials and account for how he has 500 businesses and then explain how he hasnt gone to jail over the years for all this fraud you claim?
 
You are terribly wrong......only thing the prez can do with NG troops in DC is authorize them to be activated and then secdef is totally responsible for their deployment if requested.
Wrong, the president has complete control over the DC Guard.
The President as a matter of law ceded control to the Sec of Def.

Just like a parent cedes control of their children to a baby sitter.

Both the parents and the president have the ultimate authority.
 
What if you're infected and not vaccinated?
I know of people who were vaccinated and got The Rona five times...... how's the cure?

No different than people bitten by a snake five times, and given anti-venom five times.
 
Okay, so I'll pledge to keep any criticism or any degree of attacks out of this conversation. Hopefully you will too, but we'll see how it goes.

Full Disclosure: I've been able to adjust my relationships with my Trump-voting friends and family to where we either don't discuss politics, or we just keep our political conversations at a point where we're agreeing on something. That's it. Those relationships are too important to us to risk. Period.

So I'm going to ask you guys the question I would ask them if I were willing to risk those relationships. It's at the heart of my concerns about MAGA, and I know it's a question often asked by people across the political spectrum who remain horrified about what's happening. But clearly, his base (NOT everyone who voted for him, but his BASE), clearly believe America is in serious danger and he is the one person who can fix this.

Personally, while I have several general issue agreements with MAGA (see link at bottom here), I also believe (as do many across the political spectrum) that getting what I may want politically is not worth selling my soul to anyone (and that's what I think it is), let alone a person of such deeply poor moral character and obvious mental instability. I/we also strongly disagree with this simplistic, heavy, ham-handed approach, refusal to collaborate/innovate, and obvious indications of European-style autocratic authoritarianism. That's just my personal opinion.

Please vote/comment, and no attacks are on the way in response. Thanks in advance.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?
Thread closed. Honest is not what the OP does.
 
that argument might work except for simple fact that Fauci and company all claimed it prevented you from getting it and protected you from getting again if you had it.
That was the early expectation. Said before the vaccine was deployed.
After, they only claimed it's ability to keep people from dying, or serious complications.
 
Wrong, the president has complete control over the DC Guard.
The President as a matter of law ceded control to the Sec of Def.

Just like a parent cedes control of their children to a baby sitter.

Both the parents and the president have the ultimate authority.
Who can deploy the NG in DC?
 
AGAIN provide a Link to the website wherein President Trump bragged about grabbing her ugly snatch
It was from the access hollywood tape.

If you never heard of it, you should crawl back under the rock, you've been hiding under..

Just google Trump and "grab them by the pussy" and you'll get more links than you can count.
 
The chain of command for the District of Columbia National Guard (DCNG) is as follows:

President of the United States: The commander-in-chief of the DCNG

Secretary of Defense: Delegates the authority to activate the DCNG to the Secretary of Defense

Secretary of the Army: Delegates command authority over the D.C. Army National Guard from the Secretary of Defense

Commanding General: The Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate to the President

The DCNG is the only National Guard organization in the United States that is always under the president's command.
 
The chain of command for the District of Columbia National Guard (DCNG) is as follows:

President of the United States: The commander-in-chief of the DCNG

Secretary of Defense: Delegates the authority to activate the DCNG to the Secretary of Defense

Secretary of the Army: Delegates command authority over the D.C. Army National Guard from the Secretary of Defense

Commanding General: The Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate to the President

The DCNG is the only National Guard organization in the United States that is always under the president's command.
"Fake news" in 3, 2, 1...
 
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