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You're delusional you can tell it's a gun. I can tell that it's a gun.... OH that's right leftist have a hard time identifying guns.Have you been trained as a law enforcement officer?Why was the gun laying on the road? how did it get there?How is it murder?
It was straight up premeditated murder because the woman was not pointing a gun as claimed, the woman was way on the far side of the truck and not even looking his way.
He had the truck between them, and was in no danger at all.
His shots were totally unwarranted, his actions after were insane, yelling at her to roll over, etc.
It does not matter if there is a BB gun in the road.
The cop could have put it there or it could have been a discarded toy.
Its still murder because he should not have shot, was not in danger because they were too far apart and there was a truck between them, and it was premeditated murder because hand cuffing a person who is injured almost assures a quick death.
1. the gun looks real she pointed it at the officer
2. Police officers are trained to handcuff an assailant even when they are down and have been injured
Dude there is a gun in her hands and the same gun is dropped when she's shotI see a gun in her hands pointing it at the officer.How is it murder?
He gets out of the car and shoots and unarmed girl without a word? What other term can be used? He executed her for hitting his car, which isn't even his....
No you don't.
Could have been anything in her hands.
The point is he could easily see her through the windows, ahead of time.
You can't tell if it is a gun or not in the video and after the fact, it was verified as not being a gun.
The cop was in no danger because he not only was over 20' from her, but he had to have seen her ahead of time through the windows, and it was he who deliberately left the safety of being behind the vehicle and attacked her.
Clearly the audio was deliberately cut to remove this swearing and or threats.
She looks terrified.
She did nothing illegal or wrong.
The cop obviously committed premeditated murder.
You're not going to watch it because you want to feel self-righteous and don't want to see the truth.5:06 in the video you can clearly see a gun laying on the ground. 417 is code for gun you will see the gun laying on the white line in the road 5 feet from the front passenger side of the woman's car.Have you been trained as a law enforcement officer?Why was the gun laying on the road? how did it get there?
It does not matter if there is a BB gun in the road.
The cop could have put it there or it could have been a discarded toy.
Its still murder because he should not have shot, was not in danger because they were too far apart and there was a truck between them, and it was premeditated murder because hand cuffing a person who is injured almost assures a quick death.
1. the gun looks real she pointed it at the officer
2. Police officers are trained to handcuff an assailant even when they are down and have been injured
Dude there is a gun in her hands and the same gun is dropped when she's shotI see a gun in her hands pointing it at the officer.
No you don't.
Could have been anything in her hands.
The point is he could easily see her through the windows, ahead of time.
She never pointed anything at him. The replica gun was a drop piece the cop had in his car.
I am not going to watch that mess again, but before you said that gun was near the center line.
Now you are saying it is closer to the passenger side.
Hardly matters, because the women was directly behind the vehicle, so a gun could not have fallen either way, but straight down instead. And the cop could easily have tossed a fake gun where ever he wanted.
Why else would he have gone back to his car and wasted all that time?
When you start being truthful I'll have a discussion with you but right now I'm telling you the factsLET'S BACK UP5:06 in the video you can clearly see a gun laying on the ground. 417 is code for gun you will see the gun laying on the white line in the road 5 feet from the front passenger side of the woman's car.Have you been trained as a law enforcement officer?
1. the gun looks real she pointed it at the officer
2. Police officers are trained to handcuff an assailant even when they are down and have been injured
Dude there is a gun in her hands and the same gun is dropped when she's shot
She never pointed anything at him. The replica gun was a drop piece the cop had in his car.
He yells the code, but there is no gun, clearly visible or otherwise. He is providing cover for the plant.
Why did he get out and shoot her to start with? Other than she hit his car?
The officer called in about the wreck and the woman trying to intentionally hit him. the first sign of aggression
next he gets out of his vehicle and sees the woman exiting her vehicle moving to the front. (frame 4:30 there is nothing laying on the road)
No shots are fired at this time. It wasn't until she turned facing him with her arms in a shooting position with the gun in her hands the officer shoot's he returns to his patrol car at this time you can see a gun laying on the road starting at 5:05 it can be seen laying on the white line in the center of the roadway in front of the womans car and left front of the officers car
tHE OFFICER NEVER APPROACHED THAT SPOT TO DROP A GUN.
The first sign of aggression is the cop lying and claiming she intentionally hit him, when he can't possibly be telling the truth at that point.
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So far in 2019, 66 Police Officers died in he line of duty in the U.S. to ensure the Constitutional right of Americans to question their behavior. Out of respect to fallen Officers please don't assume that the Officer in question is guilty.
You're delusional you can tell it's a gun. I can tell that it's a gun.... OH that's right leftist have a hard time identifying guns.Have you been trained as a law enforcement officer?Why was the gun laying on the road? how did it get there?It was straight up premeditated murder because the woman was not pointing a gun as claimed, the woman was way on the far side of the truck and not even looking his way.
He had the truck between them, and was in no danger at all.
His shots were totally unwarranted, his actions after were insane, yelling at her to roll over, etc.
It does not matter if there is a BB gun in the road.
The cop could have put it there or it could have been a discarded toy.
Its still murder because he should not have shot, was not in danger because they were too far apart and there was a truck between them, and it was premeditated murder because hand cuffing a person who is injured almost assures a quick death.
1. the gun looks real she pointed it at the officer
2. Police officers are trained to handcuff an assailant even when they are down and have been injured
Dude there is a gun in her hands and the same gun is dropped when she's shotI see a gun in her hands pointing it at the officer.He gets out of the car and shoots and unarmed girl without a word? What other term can be used? He executed her for hitting his car, which isn't even his....
No you don't.
Could have been anything in her hands.
The point is he could easily see her through the windows, ahead of time.
You can't tell if it is a gun or not in the video and after the fact, it was verified as not being a gun.
The cop was in no danger because he not only was over 20' from her, but he had to have seen her ahead of time through the windows, and it was he who deliberately left the safety of being behind the vehicle and attacked her.
Clearly the audio was deliberately cut to remove this swearing and or threats.
She looks terrified.
She did nothing illegal or wrong.
The cop obviously committed premeditated murder.
It was verified as a replica gun.
OMG you're making a judgement call without even having any training in law enforcement.
What is your qualifications to make such a call?
Dude a car tried to ram his car and a woman points a gun at him case closed
So far in 2019, 66 Police Officers died in he line of duty in the U.S. to ensure the Constitutional right of Americans to question their behavior. Out of respect to fallen Officers please don't assume that the Officer in question is guilty.
That makes no sense.
First of all, police have a moderate job and not one that is exceptionally dangerous.
Most of the police deaths are from traffic, not someone trying to kill them.
Almost no one would ever deliberately attack a police officer.
One of the most dangerous jobs is a cab driver.
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NIOSH reports that taxi drivers face a greater risk of injury or homicide on the job than those working in law enforcement and security. They are also victim to more non-fatal assaults (184 per 1,000cabbies) than any other occupation with the exception of police (306 per 1,000) and private security guards (218 per 1,000).
...}
Taxi Drivers: Years of Living Dangerously
So should we respect taxi drivers no matter what they do, out of respect for their fallen numbers?
Fact the facts that police almost always cause any danger they face.
For example, if they were not illegally conducting a War on Drugs and illegally abusing no-knock warrants, being a cop could be much safer and MUCH more ethical. They could be helping society much more than they do now, where they likely do more harm than good.
The point being that this woman did not have to die.
The cop was not at risk since he had the truck between them.
He did not have to aggressively come out from behind cover and shoot her.
He likely did so because he was angry at her and deliberately wanted to harm her.
You can tell not only from the missing audio and his actions, but the fact he handcuffed her as she was dying, and greatly accelerated her death.
It is well known that handcuffing people with their hands behind their back makes breathing much more difficult. And that makes it deliberate premeditated murder.
You're not going to watch it because you want to feel self-righteous and don't want to see the truth.5:06 in the video you can clearly see a gun laying on the ground. 417 is code for gun you will see the gun laying on the white line in the road 5 feet from the front passenger side of the woman's car.Have you been trained as a law enforcement officer?It does not matter if there is a BB gun in the road.
The cop could have put it there or it could have been a discarded toy.
Its still murder because he should not have shot, was not in danger because they were too far apart and there was a truck between them, and it was premeditated murder because hand cuffing a person who is injured almost assures a quick death.
1. the gun looks real she pointed it at the officer
2. Police officers are trained to handcuff an assailant even when they are down and have been injured
Dude there is a gun in her hands and the same gun is dropped when she's shotNo you don't.
Could have been anything in her hands.
The point is he could easily see her through the windows, ahead of time.
She never pointed anything at him. The replica gun was a drop piece the cop had in his car.
I am not going to watch that mess again, but before you said that gun was near the center line.
Now you are saying it is closer to the passenger side.
Hardly matters, because the women was directly behind the vehicle, so a gun could not have fallen either way, but straight down instead. And the cop could easily have tossed a fake gun where ever he wanted.
Why else would he have gone back to his car and wasted all that time?
A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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Of course not. Of course there is no left-wing outrage. Left-wingers are inherently evil scum. They don't give a crap about anyone. They murder babies. The only thing they care about is gaining power, and if they can't use a death to gain power, then they do not give flying rats ass about people dying.
So far in 2019, 66 Police Officers died in he line of duty in the U.S. to ensure the Constitutional right of Americans to question their behavior. Out of respect to fallen Officers please don't assume that the Officer in question is guilty.
That makes no sense.
First of all, police have a moderate job and not one that is exceptionally dangerous.
Most of the police deaths are from traffic, not someone trying to kill them.
Almost no one would ever deliberately attack a police officer.
One of the most dangerous jobs is a cab driver.
{...
NIOSH reports that taxi drivers face a greater risk of injury or homicide on the job than those working in law enforcement and security. They are also victim to more non-fatal assaults (184 per 1,000cabbies) than any other occupation with the exception of police (306 per 1,000) and private security guards (218 per 1,000).
...}
Taxi Drivers: Years of Living Dangerously
So should we respect taxi drivers no matter what they do, out of respect for their fallen numbers?
Fact the facts that police almost always cause any danger they face.
For example, if they were not illegally conducting a War on Drugs and illegally abusing no-knock warrants, being a cop could be much safer and MUCH more ethical. They could be helping society much more than they do now, where they likely do more harm than good.
The point being that this woman did not have to die.
The cop was not at risk since he had the truck between them.
He did not have to aggressively come out from behind cover and shoot her.
He likely did so because he was angry at her and deliberately wanted to harm her.
You can tell not only from the missing audio and his actions, but the fact he handcuffed her as she was dying, and greatly accelerated her death.
It is well known that handcuffing people with their hands behind their back makes breathing much more difficult. And that makes it deliberate premeditated murder.
Only in your opinion.
Police do what they are trained to do. Cops don't hide behind cars. You watch too many 70's movies. Police put themselves in the line of fire to show authority. It's what they are supposed to do.
If you pull out a gun on a cop, then yes, you chance being killed. It's not that hard of a concept for citizens to follow. It's also not hard to follow the orders of a police officer so that nobody does get killed.
A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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Of course not. Of course there is no left-wing outrage. Left-wingers are inherently evil scum. They don't give a crap about anyone. They murder babies. The only thing they care about is gaining power, and if they can't use a death to gain power, then they do not give flying rats ass about people dying.
Their reactions never surprise me. When it's a choice between being against the good guy or for the good guy, they always side against the good guy. Choosing evil over good is a trait of a leftist.
A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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What the law says is that you can't shoot someone just for pointing a weapon.
If police can legally shoot a civilian for pointing a weapon, than any civilian could then legal shoot police when they point a weapon.
Police can NOT have superior authority to anyone else, because it is the inherent rights of all individual that is the ONLY source of ANY authority at all in a democratic republic.
The mistake is to believe that since government has authority and hire the police, that then police are a higher authority than average people.
That is not at all true in a democratic republic.
The reality is that since the public create government, then government is below the people.
And then since government hires the police, the police then are 2 steps lower than the population as a whole.
Since police also are average citizens, they do then also have the same right of defense as anyone, but no more.
They have no more right or authority to pull the trigger than anyone does.
The risks they face is why they are paid more.
They can't then start shooting people because they no longer want to accept the risk they choose to take money for.
What police SHOULD do is not to shoot, but to take cover.
They should be acting defensively, just like everyone else.
They do not get the right to murder people so that they can just stand there in the open and pretend it was not their fault for getting into a risky situation.
Let's meet you bring your toy gun I'll bring my real one. But I don't know yours is a toy. You can rest assured you will get shot if you even start to point it at me. Police are not required to get shot first then react. Citizens do not have the "right" to disobey the law, ( which includes pointing deadly weapons at LE)no matter how ignorant you are about it. Ignorance is no defense! So I guess you are just ignorant and defenseless! Where we meeting?
Perhaps you should watch the body cam video.
This was a straight up murder.
Fullerton Police Release Body-Camera Footage of Hannah Williams Shooting | OC Weekly
I watched the video and it was the worst case of premeditated murder I have ever seen.
That was absolutely no reason at all for shots to be fired.
The cop had the whole truck to hide behind.
Put that cop in jail immediately.
I don't think Rigby is quite as off as people think he is.
What I think he's saying is that cops don't have special powers when it comes to the use of a firearm. In fact, he is right. Cops are held to a higher standard than the average citizen because they are trained to deescalate situations, etc. Cops can only draw their weapon in the event they feel their life is in danger. Not to get someone to comply, for instance.
I think this is what he's saying.
Actually there are several important differences besides her skin color.A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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She was 17, not 12. There's a significant difference in maturity level between the two.
She advanced in the officer, pointing the fake gun at him. Rice did nothing of the sort.
The police in the Rice shooting were told in advance the gun was probably a toy, and that.the subject was probably a juvenile. There was no such warning in current case.
There's body camera video of her pointing the suppose gun at the officers.
Yes, this is a tragedy, all such shootings are. It's not receiving as much attention because it's a clear cut case of the officer responding to a threat.
Was she killed because she was white?A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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you are a genius!! and very wrongWhat the law says is that you can't shoot someone just for pointing a weapon.
If police can legally shoot a civilian for pointing a weapon, than any civilian could then legal shoot police when they point a weapon.
Police can NOT have superior authority to anyone else, because it is the inherent rights of all individual that is the ONLY source of ANY authority at all in a democratic republic.
The mistake is to believe that since government has authority and hire the police, that then police are a higher authority than average people.
That is not at all true in a democratic republic.
The reality is that since the public create government, then government is below the people.
And then since government hires the police, the police then are 2 steps lower than the population as a whole.
Since police also are average citizens, they do then also have the same right of defense as anyone, but no more.
They have no more right or authority to pull the trigger than anyone does.
The risks they face is why they are paid more.
They can't then start shooting people because they no longer want to accept the risk they choose to take money for.
What police SHOULD do is not to shoot, but to take cover.
They should be acting defensively, just like everyone else.
They do not get the right to murder people so that they can just stand there in the open and pretend it was not their fault for getting into a risky situation.
''''if police can legally shoot a civilian for pointing a weapon, than any civilian could then legal shoot police when they point a weapon.'''' ..????!!!!!!!! ahahahhaa
hahahahhahahahahahah
how old are you???!!! 10???
Penal Code 417 is the California law that prohibits “drawing, exhibiting, or using a firearm or deadly weapon”.1 This offense is commonly referred to as "brandishing" a weapon.Penal Code 417 PC - "Brandishing" a Weapon or FirearmThis is just one of California gun laws that regulate how and when people may lawfully use their firearms. A conviction under this section subjects you to a jail or prison sentence.
.....understand???? in most states you can't just brandish/etc weapons---the police usually are not BRANDISHING weapons
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etc etc
you are way off base--not even in the ballpark
bran·dish
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verb
- wave or flourish (something, especially a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement.
Brandishing is when you display a weapon of deadly force in a way that intimidates.
That is exactly what police are doing when they point a loaded gun at someone, and since it could easily go off by an accidental trip or tug, that is the felony conduct regardless of life.
Police illegally violate that law constantly.
But brandishing is perfectly legal by any ordinary citizen if they feel their life or property is in danger, and they have no means of safe retreat. Same as police. In fact, it has to be IDENTICAL is this it to remain a democratic republic.
Ummm, what the fuck do you think POINTING a gun at you is? Moron!
You seemed to have misunderstood.
While she should not have brandished, the police do it all the time, and it is even more illegal when police do it because they have real guns, they are loaded, and the police should have been better trained to know how easily guns can go off accidentally.
It is illegal for police to point loaded guns at people who have not shown any weapon, and yet police illegally do this all the time.
A 17-year-old girl killed by a Fullerton police officer last week appears to have been pointing a replica handgun at the officer when she was shot, according to body camera footage released by the Police Department on Friday.
The graphic 15-minute video, which also features emergency radio transmissions and statements from Fullerton police officials, provides the most complete account yet of the events leading up to the shooting of Hannah Williams along the 91 Freeway in Anaheim.
The on-duty K-9 officer was driving east on the 91 Freeway when he noticed an SUV speeding past him shortly after 7 p.m., according to a videotaped statement by Fullerton Police Lt. Jon Radus introducing the footage.
As the officer attempts to stop the vehicle for a possible speeding violation, it appears to intentionally collide with his patrol car before making an abrupt U-turn into oncoming traffic and coming to a stop facing the wrong way, Radus said.
When the officer approached the driver’s side door, Williams exited and pointed the replica gun at him, Radus said. She can be seen in the video walking toward the officer with her arms outstretched.
The officer opened fire, striking her. The video shows a still-conscious Williams crying out for help as the officer and a responding LAPD officer handcuff her and provide medical aid.
Body camera video appears to show 17-year-old pointing replica gun at officer before she is shot, police say
What we have here is almost an exact replica of a case in my city with a boy named Tamir Rice. In this case, an officer was confronted by a girl with a toy gun which the officer had no way of knowing, and did what he had to do which is protect his life.
There are several differences between the Rice case and this one. First and most importantly, the liberal media has not expressed outrage in this shooting. Two, you had to dig for this story to find it. Three, they were both minors, but this girl was five years older than Tamir.
A USMB member told me that if Tamir had been white, the officer would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; that the officer should have known it was a toy and waited until he was shot at first before defending his life.
Not to worry though, because this is a white girl, this story will die this evening. It won't be like the year long constant reporting by the MSM like what happened in the Rice case. They likely won't investigate the life history of this officer like in the Rice case, and the city won't give the parents of this mentally challenged girl 5 million dollars because she was white and they need to buy votes.
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I am MORE outraged than YOU would be if this had happened to a black or a WHITE LIBERAL. You would have mocked and ridiculed the "moron" and claimed "she deserved it". But now you come here accusing us of your own rotten vile loathsome behavior.
you really do suck
I don't know what her politics was. I started the thread to show how the liberal media treats two nearly identical stories except for the difference in race.
We've seen this in the Brown story, the Travon Martin story, the Rice story, all black guys getting shot by a white person; two of the instances police officers.
In all three, the police officer or citizen were found not guilty of wrongdoing, yet the media continued to sensationalize it for months afterwards. In fact rewards were given to the families of the person committing the crime by the cities, and by the HOS in the Martin case. Here in Cleveland, the city gave the Rice family 5 million dollars; money badly needed here for street improvements and emergency services.
The media only publicizes stories of black people. Why? Because black people will make a stink about it. They will have protests that draw media attention, sports figures disrespecting our national anthem, and if the media is lucky, riots where people burn down their own town. The liberal media loves this crap.
A white person gets shot by a police officer, no big deal. The person must have been doing something wrong, and nobody but perhaps a handful of people that the local media will pay attention to will protest.
I disagree.
People make more stink over Blacks being murdered because it happens hundreds of time more often, and because they usually do not have guns, fake or not.
This is much more of a close call because of the BB gun.
But police should be MUCH better at reading body language than that, and should be more more careful about keeping cover and not forcing risky situations.
Where did you get your information from, Rigby? I am very curious to read your source.What the law says is that you can't shoot someone just for pointing a weapon.
If police can legally shoot a civilian for pointing a weapon, than any civilian could then legal shoot police when they point a weapon.
Police can NOT have superior authority to anyone else, because it is the inherent rights of all individual that is the ONLY source of ANY authority at all in a democratic republic.
The mistake is to believe that since government has authority and hire the police, that then police are a higher authority than average people.
That is not at all true in a democratic republic.
The reality is that since the public create government, then government is below the people.
And then since government hires the police, the police then are 2 steps lower than the population as a whole.
Since police also are average citizens, they do then also have the same right of defense as anyone, but no more.
They have no more right or authority to pull the trigger than anyone does.
The risks they face is why they are paid more.
They can't then start shooting people because they no longer want to accept the risk they choose to take money for.
What police SHOULD do is not to shoot, but to take cover.
They should be acting defensively, just like everyone else.
They do not get the right to murder people so that they can just stand there in the open and pretend it was not their fault for getting into a risky situation.
The reason why I say that is a person who has an avatar of the Twilight Zone
posts something that is totally out of this world.
It is obvious that in a democratic republic, we create government by hiring it to do things for us.
Those you hire, can not possibly ever have superior authority to you yourself.
And police do not exist according to government.
They are not mentioned in any constitution.
They were not created until a over a century later.
Therefore they can not possibly have any additional legal authority at all.
And if they think they do, that is the line in the sand, where they have crossed over and become more of a problem then help, and it is time to get rid of them.