Please understand. Debt ceiling has not been raised. It's been ELIMINATED!!

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Why did Boehner go along with this.? Dems are in a weak state due to obozocare and yet the GOP caved in ever worse than last october. It's either bribery or blackmail. Maybe dems have pics of boner with a 9 year old boy.

The Sky's the Limit: Debt Limit Suspended until March 2015 | The Daily Sheeple

February 13th, 2014

On Tuesday morning, Boehner stunned Republicans by announcing that he was dropping a package that would have tied the debt ceiling increase to a repeal of cuts to military retirement pensions that were approved in December and replacing it with a “clean” debt ceiling increase.

The bill, which has been approved by the House and the Senate, does not raise the debt limit by a set amount but instead suspends it through March 15, 2015. This gives the Treasury Department the leeway it needs to borrow money to pay for Social Security checks, payments on government debt and paychecks for federal workers.
 
Why did Boehner go along with this.? Dems are in a weak state due to obozocare and yet the GOP caved in ever worse than last october. It's either bribery or blackmail. Maybe dems have pics of boner with a 9 year old boy.

The Sky's the Limit: Debt Limit Suspended until March 2015 | The Daily Sheeple

February 13th, 2014

On Tuesday morning, Boehner stunned Republicans by announcing that he was dropping a package that would have tied the debt ceiling increase to a repeal of cuts to military retirement pensions that were approved in December and replacing it with a “clean” debt ceiling increase.

The bill, which has been approved by the House and the Senate, does not raise the debt limit by a set amount but instead suspends it through March 15, 2015. This gives the Treasury Department the leeway it needs to borrow money to pay for Social Security checks, payments on government debt and paychecks for federal workers.

99% of voters are not on message boards and don't give two sh!ts about the ACA one way or the other.
The Republicans are going down on flames in their own way just as the Democrats are going down in flames in their own way.
 
Why did Boehner go along with this.? Dems are in a weak state due to obozocare and yet the GOP caved in ever worse than last october. It's either bribery or blackmail. Maybe dems have pics of boner with a 9 year old boy.

The Sky's the Limit: Debt Limit Suspended until March 2015 | The Daily Sheeple

February 13th, 2014

On Tuesday morning, Boehner stunned Republicans by announcing that he was dropping a package that would have tied the debt ceiling increase to a repeal of cuts to military retirement pensions that were approved in December and replacing it with a “clean” debt ceiling increase.

The bill, which has been approved by the House and the Senate, does not raise the debt limit by a set amount but instead suspends it through March 15, 2015. This gives the Treasury Department the leeway it needs to borrow money to pay for Social Security checks, payments on government debt and paychecks for federal workers.

99% of voters are not on message boards and don't give two sh!ts about the ACA one way or the other.
The Republicans are going down on flames in their own way just as the Democrats are going down in flames in their own way.

We need to remove the extremes in both parties ;)
 
What was the point of the debt ceiling anyway? The ONLY purpose it ever served was so that the party not in power could scream and whine when the debt ceiling needed to be raised.

The republicans want to make this sound like a crisis. It is not.
 
Why did Boehner go along with this.? Dems are in a weak state due to obozocare and yet the GOP caved in ever worse than last october. It's either bribery or blackmail. Maybe dems have pics of boner with a 9 year old boy.

The Sky's the Limit: Debt Limit Suspended until March 2015 | The Daily Sheeple

February 13th, 2014

On Tuesday morning, Boehner stunned Republicans by announcing that he was dropping a package that would have tied the debt ceiling increase to a repeal of cuts to military retirement pensions that were approved in December and replacing it with a “clean” debt ceiling increase.

The bill, which has been approved by the House and the Senate, does not raise the debt limit by a set amount but instead suspends it through March 15, 2015. This gives the Treasury Department the leeway it needs to borrow money to pay for Social Security checks, payments on government debt and paychecks for federal workers.

I don't think it is that. Obama blamed the shut down on Republicans and most people in the country bought it. Now he, himself and his party, are in deep shit over the Obamacare debacle, the Republicans don't want to shift the national focus back to themselves. I think it is a very smart move. Given him everything he wants. And then give him enough rope to hang himself and he will. Guaranteed!
 
I think you hit the nail on the head, SS. Boehner is likely being blackmailed. Time for him to go.
 
infrastructure, science and r@d isn't the cause of our debt. Hasn't risen in decades...

military
Healthcare
welfare

make up 2/3rds of the budget.

Stop writing r&d as r@d. You do that all the time. "&" means "and" while "@" means "at".

DAMN.....Why did you tell him that. I was having fun and chuckling every time I saw this.
BTW, matty thunks the federal government does science and infrastructure.
Which means he thinks traffic control devices and paving contracts are 'infrastructure'....LOL
 
The debt ceiling has been raised 74 times since 1962. That includes 18 times under Ronald Reagan. Something tells me the republicans weren't complaining then. Nor did they complain when George W. Bush raised it 7 times.

And the dems sure didn't make it sound bad when Clinton raised the debt ceiling 8 times. Just like they are not condemning it under Obama.

This is party politics.
 
I don't think it is that. Obama blamed the shut down on Republicans and most people in the country bought it. Now he, himself and his party, are in deep shit over the Obamacare debacle, the Republicans don't want to shift the national focus back to themselves. I think it is a very smart move. Given him everything he wants. And then give him enough rope to hang himself and he will. Guaranteed!

Lots of people have said that and i too would have accepted raising the ceiling. But eliminating it for a year makes no sense.:clap2:
 
What was the point of the debt ceiling anyway? The ONLY purpose it ever served was so that the party not in power could scream and whine when the debt ceiling needed to be raised.

The republicans want to make this sound like a crisis. It is not.

Your stone-like lack of comprehension of the MEANING of our debt problem could not have been expressed more clearly by you.

Our debt problem is not just a crisis in the making. It is a crisis we already have.

It is a fucking DIRE problem.

How Dangerous Is U.S. Government Debt? - Council on Foreign Relations

ALSO, consider these thoughts:

http://www.heritage.org/research/re...bt-will-weaken-the-economy-and-hurt-americans

The seriousness of the problem affects almost every facet of the American Republic, including national security and the value of our dollar here and abroad. How often must even THIS present government acknowledge that our debt load is unsustainable before you guys START to take it seriously?

Boehner is a disaster.
 
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The debt ceiling has been raised 74 times since 1962. That includes 18 times under Ronald Reagan. Something tells me the republicans weren't complaining then. Nor did they complain when George W. Bush raised it 7 times.

And the dems sure didn't make it sound bad when Clinton raised the debt ceiling 8 times. Just like they are not condemning it under Obama.

This is party politics.

CAN'T YOU READ??? The debt ceiling was not raised, it is GONE!! This is sumping new.
 
What was the point of the debt ceiling anyway? The ONLY purpose it ever served was so that the party not in power could scream and whine when the debt ceiling needed to be raised.

The republicans want to make this sound like a crisis. It is not.

Your stone-like lack of comprehension of the MEANING of our debt problem could not have been expressed more clearly by you.

Our debt problem is not just a crisis in the making. It is a crisis we already have.

It is a fucking DIRE problem.

How Dangerous Is U.S. Government Debt? - Council on Foreign Relations

The seriousness of the problem affects almost every facet of the American Republic, including national security andthe value of our dollar here and abroad. How often must even THIS present government acknowledge that our debt load is unsustainable before you guys START to take it seriously?

Boehner is a disaster.

Hell yes it is a dire problem. But the hoopla being raised is not about the debt. It is about raising the debt ceiling.

Pass an amendment that requires a balanced budget. Stop allowing the gov't to spend more than it makes. Fire politicians who cann control spending and who waste our money on pork.

But don't make a fuss about raising or eliminating a debt ceiling when the ceiling has been meaningless for decades.
 
Why did Boehner go along with this.? Dems are in a weak state due to obozocare and yet the GOP caved in ever worse than last october. It's either bribery or blackmail. Maybe dems have pics of boner with a 9 year old boy.

The Sky's the Limit: Debt Limit Suspended until March 2015 | The Daily Sheeple

February 13th, 2014

On Tuesday morning, Boehner stunned Republicans by announcing that he was dropping a package that would have tied the debt ceiling increase to a repeal of cuts to military retirement pensions that were approved in December and replacing it with a “clean” debt ceiling increase.

The bill, which has been approved by the House and the Senate, does not raise the debt limit by a set amount but instead suspends it through March 15, 2015. This gives the Treasury Department the leeway it needs to borrow money to pay for Social Security checks, payments on government debt and paychecks for federal workers.

I don't think it is that. Obama blamed the shut down on Republicans and most people in the country bought it. Now he, himself and his party, are in deep shit over the Obamacare debacle, the Republicans don't want to shift the national focus back to themselves. I think it is a very smart move. Given him everything he wants. And then give him enough rope to hang himself and he will. Guaranteed!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

When Cruz et all shut down the govt, they were bragging about and idiot rw's were bragging about it.

The Rs blew more than $50million on their 45+ phony votes to repeal ACA.

But, now its time to rewrite history. Suddenly, they didn't shut down the govt and now the rw's are gonna help them lie about ObamaCare too.

Damn fools.
 
The debt ceiling has been raised 74 times since 1962. That includes 18 times under Ronald Reagan. Something tells me the republicans weren't complaining then. Nor did they complain when George W. Bush raised it 7 times.

And the dems sure didn't make it sound bad when Clinton raised the debt ceiling 8 times. Just like they are not condemning it under Obama.

This is party politics.

CAN'T YOU READ??? The debt ceiling was not raised, it is GONE!! This is sumping new.

No, it is not new. The debt ceiling was never a meaningful limitation anyway. The fact that it has been raised 74 times in 52 years should make that obvious.

There has been no real limit. They had a fake line drawn and whenever they needed to move it they did so.

This is smoke & mirrors. How about we require our representatives lower the debt. How about we require a balanced budget every single year?
 
Politics is not checkers. It is chess. You need to plan your moves. You've got to have the ability to see beyond the obvious. Then you must use tactics, set traps, and makes moves that advance the goal. Battling over the debt ceiling is a trap....the Republicans were smart to avoid it.
 
The debt ceiling has been raised 74 times since 1962. That includes 18 times under Ronald Reagan. Something tells me the republicans weren't complaining then. Nor did they complain when George W. Bush raised it 7 times.

And the dems sure didn't make it sound bad when Clinton raised the debt ceiling 8 times. Just like they are not condemning it under Obama.

This is party politics.

CAN'T YOU READ??? The debt ceiling was not raised, it is GONE!! This is sumping new.

:cuckoo:

How about you read your own OP.

:cuckoo:
 
What was the point of the debt ceiling anyway? The ONLY purpose it ever served was so that the party not in power could scream and whine when the debt ceiling needed to be raised.

The republicans want to make this sound like a crisis. It is not.

Your stone-like lack of comprehension of the MEANING of our debt problem could not have been expressed more clearly by you.

Our debt problem is not just a crisis in the making. It is a crisis we already have.

It is a fucking DIRE problem.

How Dangerous Is U.S. Government Debt? - Council on Foreign Relations

The seriousness of the problem affects almost every facet of the American Republic, including national security and the value of our dollar here and abroad. How often must even THIS present government acknowledge that our debt load is unsustainable before you guys START to take it seriously?

Boehner is a disaster.

Hell yes it is a dire problem. But the hoopla being raised is not about the debt. It is about raising the debt ceiling.

Pass an amendment that requires a balanced budget. Stop allowing the gov't to spend more than it makes. Fire politicians who cann control spending and who waste our money on pork.

But don't make a fuss about raising or eliminating a debt ceiling when the ceiling has been meaningless for decades.

No. The "hooplah" is about he debt. Because our childish, immature, unsophisticated, un-serious "legislators" (led by our moron in chief) will -- without question -- use the blank check of a non-existent debt "ceiling" to plunge us faster and deeper into the morass of this unsustainable debt. They will not just drive the car at break neck speeds near the damn edge of the road, they will be steering us off the road and over the steep cliff into the canyon below. And they will not even have enough sense to apply some brakes or steer a bit away from that ledge.

And that's not just hyperbole, either. Those fucking morons have already taken us in that direction. It is their history. They are like crack addicts without the slightest inclination to change their ways.

It will not end well unless those idiots are stopped. Very very soon.
 
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Your stone-like lack of comprehension of the MEANING of our debt problem could not have been expressed more clearly by you.

Our debt problem is not just a crisis in the making. It is a crisis we already have.

It is a fucking DIRE problem.

How Dangerous Is U.S. Government Debt? - Council on Foreign Relations

The seriousness of the problem affects almost every facet of the American Republic, including national security andthe value of our dollar here and abroad. How often must even THIS present government acknowledge that our debt load is unsustainable before you guys START to take it seriously?

Boehner is a disaster.

Hell yes it is a dire problem. But the hoopla being raised is not about the debt. It is about raising the debt ceiling.

Pass an amendment that requires a balanced budget. Stop allowing the gov't to spend more than it makes. Fire politicians who cann control spending and who waste our money on pork.

But don't make a fuss about raising or eliminating a debt ceiling when the ceiling has been meaningless for decades.

No. The "hooplah" is about he debt. Because our childish, immature, unsophisticated, un-serious "legislators" (led by our moron in chief) will -- without question -- use the blank check of a non-existent debt "ceiling" to plunge is faster and deeper into the morass of this unsustainable debt. They will not just drive the car at break neck speeds near the damn edge of the road, they will be steering us off the road and over the steep cliff into the canyon below. And they will not even have enough sense to apply some brakes or steer a bit away from that ledge.

And that's not just hyperbole, either. Those fucking morons have already taken us in that direction. It is their history. They are like crack addicts without the slightest inclination to change their ways.

It will not end well unless those idiots are stopped. Very very soon.

Which morons? I'm afraid you will have to be more specific. Every president since Herbert Hoover has added to the national debt.

The debt ceiling was an artificial line created to make it so Congress did not have to approve every debt individually. So it has been about how conveniently we have run up debts. And we removed the need for Congress to approve each individual debt when we entered WWI.

The debt ceiling has been raised every single time it was requested. If you will never refuse to raise the limit, then it was not an actual limit. It was just smoke and mirrors so politicians could tell their constituents that they were drawing a line in the sand.

Both parties have spent like drunken sailors. We need a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget every year.
 

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