Republicans Seek to Raise the Debt Ceiling by $4T, and extend $4.5T in Tax Cuts

[M14 Shooter]

Why isn't that good news to all Americans?

It is.
That's why Democrats oppose it - they'd rather win in 2026 than have Republicans do good things for the American people.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It is.
That's why Democrats oppose it - they'd rather win in 2026 than have Republicans do good things for the American people.

It will add $4Tr to the debt.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

GOP is not about fiscal conservatism then.

Yeah, DOGE give us all a $5K handout.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Because they have to pay for it.

Ah.
You are ignorant of the fact SS and Medicare not not funded, even in part, by federal income tax.
That being the case, federal income tax could be dropped to 0% for everyone, and SS/Medicare would not lose a single $ of funding.

Do your homework, son.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It will add $4Tr to the debt.

Someone lied to you, and you let them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Ah.
You are ignorant of the fact SS and Medicare not not funded, even in part, by federal income tax.
That being the case, federal income tax could be dropped to 0% for everyone, and SS/Medicare would not lose a single $ of funding.

Do your homework, son.

You really are an idiot. They are part of the budget.

 

[Marener]

Someone lied to you, and you let them.

If you think tax cuts “pay for themselves”, then someone lied to you

 

[M14 Shooter]

You really are an idiot.

Says the guy who does not know SS and Medicare are paid for --entirely-- by payroll taxes and the employer's match.
You know -- your FICA deduction.
Not a single $ comes from federal income tax.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Says the guy who does not know SS and Medicare are paid for --entirely-- by payroll taxes and the employer's match.
You know -- your FICA deduction.
Not a single $ comes from federal income tax.

No they are part of the expenditures going out. Johnson's plan specifically paves the way for Medicare and Medicaid reductions.
There is no separate account any more.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No they are part of the expenditures going out.

And you call me an idiot

How is Social Security financed? | Press Office | SSA

How is Social Security financed?

www.ssa.gov

You have -no idea- how the federal government works. Educate yourself.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And you call me an idiot

How is Social Security financed? | Press Office | SSA

How is Social Security financed?

www.ssa.gov

You have -no idea- how the federal government works. Educate yourself.

Government IOUs. Its all money out the door.

 

[daveman]

Not a single person complaining about tax cuts and federal deficits sends a penny of their tax cut back.
Their complicity makes them as bad as they people they complain about.

Warren Buffet made a big stink about how his secretary pays more in taxes than he did.

Did he write a check to the Treasury? Oh, HELL no.

 

[daveman]

All $2 I am sure.

It'll be more than that. Are you going to spend your money, or give it back?

 

[daveman]

No nearly as much as the wealthy.

If you earned as much as they do, you'd pay a lot more in taxes.

But how much of what someone else has earned is your fair share?

 

[daveman]

Why isn't that good news to all Americans? The hypocrite TDS left seems to be against the DOGE effort to trim the cost of government but at the same time they are against raising the debt ceiling.

They support what they're told to support, and they oppose what they're told to suppose.