Please show me where Israel children taught how to stab Palestinians?

[The Rabbi]

Palestinians are told all their problems are because of the Jews. They are told this because their leaders are corrupt kleptocrats who benefit personally by keeping their people poor and miserable and scapegoating Jews. Palestinians do not want a two state solution. It would go agaiinst their interests. But the obama administraiton, worst in history, believes Arabs over Jews, or Americans, every single time and takes their side.
Worse than all the horrific stabbing is the news media reporting. "Today a Jew destroyed a Palestinian's property when he soaked his knife in blood...."

 

[healthmyths]

From the movie, The Battle of Algiers...

Journalist: M. Ben M'Hidi, don't you think it's a bit cowardly to use women's baskets and handbags to carry explosive devices that kill so many innocent people?

Ben M'Hidi: And doesn't it seem to you even more cowardly to drop napalm bombs on defenseless villages, so that there are a thousand times more innocent victims? Of course, if we had your airplanes it would be a lot easier for us. Give us your bombers, and you can have our baskets.

How dumb!
Deal with reality!
Also what have the Palestinians done with the below $27.3 BILLION in aid?
How Much International Aid Do the Palestinian Territories Receive? - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s,
the U.S. government has committed approximately $5 billion in bilateral assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid. Successive Administrations have requested aid for the Palestinians in apparent support of at least three major U.S. policy priorities of interest to Congress:
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
You would think with nearly $32 billion since 1993 the Palestinians could do better then that.
Plus why are they spending that money on 20,000 rockets that they've sent into Israel?

 

[healthmyths]

Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
.

No, you put it all on the Pals.

You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.

Because Israelis are NOT teaching their children to kill Palestinians which is the point of the thread.
Show me the comparable teachings in Israel that a being a martyr killing Palestinians is a glorious goal!

 

[healthmyths]

Actually, I discussed a culture of which the Palestinians are only a part.

The fact that that culture is not limited to that specific geographic area is important.

It's not happening in a vacuum.
.

Of coarse its not happening in a vacuum.

But Palestinian's are not teaching their children to hate because of their religion or ideology, it's because of all the bombs Israel is dropping on their heads. It is because Israel has denied them their inalienable rights, for over 70 years.

I get it. You hate Jews. But why then do Israelis allow 100,000 Palestinians to work in Israel?
Why then with $32 billion in foreign aid directly to Palestinians have they not been able to do something with that money other then buy 20,000 rockets?

 

[NYcarbineer]

From the movie, The Battle of Algiers...

Journalist: M. Ben M'Hidi, don't you think it's a bit cowardly to use women's baskets and handbags to carry explosive devices that kill so many innocent people?

Ben M'Hidi: And doesn't it seem to you even more cowardly to drop napalm bombs on defenseless villages, so that there are a thousand times more innocent victims? Of course, if we had your airplanes it would be a lot easier for us. Give us your bombers, and you can have our baskets.

How dumb!
Deal with reality!
Also what have the Palestinians done with the below $27.3 BILLION in aid?
How Much International Aid Do the Palestinian Territories Receive? - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org
View attachment 52787

Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s,
the U.S. government has committed approximately $5 billion in bilateral assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world’s largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid. Successive Administrations have requested aid for the Palestinians in apparent support of at least three major U.S. policy priorities of interest to Congress:
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
You would think with nearly $32 billion since 1993 the Palestinians could do better then that.
Plus why are they spending that money on 20,000 rockets that they've sent into Israel?

You mean compared to this?

History & Overview of U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
.

No, you put it all on the Pals.

You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.

Because Israelis are NOT teaching their children to kill Palestinians which is the point of the thread.
Show me the comparable teachings in Israel that a being a martyr killing Palestinians is a glorious goal!

Why has Israel killed far more innocent Palestinians than have Palestinians killed innocent Israelis?

 

[healthmyths]

Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
.

No, you put it all on the Pals.

You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.

Because Israelis are NOT teaching their children to kill Palestinians which is the point of the thread.
Show me the comparable teachings in Israel that a being a martyr killing Palestinians is a glorious goal!

Why has Israel killed far more innocent Palestinians than have Palestinians killed innocent Israelis?

Where are your facts?
My guess is that Israel has bomb shelters using billions for safety of their citizens.
Palestinians spend it on 20,000 rockets.
Here are MY FACTS versus your guesses!
Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”

Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen. There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it. Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.

The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million. Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.

I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control. And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.

It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
.

No, you put it all on the Pals.

You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.

Because Israelis are NOT teaching their children to kill Palestinians which is the point of the thread.
Show me the comparable teachings in Israel that a being a martyr killing Palestinians is a glorious goal!

Why has Israel killed far more innocent Palestinians than have Palestinians killed innocent Israelis?

Where are your facts?
My guess is that Israel has bomb shelters using billions for safety of their citizens.
Palestinians spend it on 20,000 rockets.
Here are MY FACTS versus your guesses!
Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”

Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen. There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it. Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.

The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million. Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.

I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control. And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.

It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

In just one 6 week period:

PALESTINIANS KILLED & INJURED

• According to the United Nations, between July 7 and August 26, at least 2131 Palestinians were killed in Gaza as a result of Israel’s “Operation Protective Edge.” According to Al Mezan Center for Human Rights, a total of 2168 Palestinians were killed, while the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) put the total number of Palestinian fatalities at 2191. (NOTE: Updated February 2015 to reflect revised PCHR figures)
• According to the UN, at least 1473 of the dead were civilians, including 501 children and 257 women, with another 379 individuals yet to be identified. According to PCHR, 1660 Palestinian civilians were killed, including 527 children and 299 women, while Al Mezan reported that 1666 of the dead were civilians, including 521 children and 297 women. For further reference, see “Notable Incidents of Civilian Casualties" section in fact sheet here. (NOTE: Updated February 2015 to reflect revised PCHR figures)
• According to the UN, at least 142 Palestinian families lost three or more members killed in a single Israeli attack, for a total of 739 fatalities (see here for more), and up to 1500 children were orphaned.
• According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 11,100 Palestinians were wounded, including 3374 children, 2088 women, and 410 elderly people. The UN estimates that 1000 of the injured children will suffer a lifelong disability.
• The UN estimates that at least 373,000 children require direct and specialized psychosocial support (PSS), while every child in Gaza has been affected by the crisis and will need some level of psychosocial support. (For more on the toll inflicted on Gaza’s children, see our recently released fact sheet, The Children of Gaza: A Generation Scarred & Under Siege.)
• During the same period, 71 Israelis were killed by Palestinians, including 66 soldiers and four civilians, as well as one foreign worker from Thailand.

 

[Kondor3]

It's too late for either a one-state or two-state solution.

Decades too late.

The Palestinians have to go.

It's just a matter of how.

Walking, or carried out.

Their choice.

The Jews of Israel carrying out a genocide of the Palestinians.

fascinating.

Expulsion, preferably, rather than extinction.

And, of course, it would be better if the UN recognized reality, and stepped in, and evacuated and relocated the so-called Palestinians, as a global effort.

 

[healthmyths]

Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
.

No, you put it all on the Pals.

You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.

Because Israelis are NOT teaching their children to kill Palestinians which is the point of the thread.
Show me the comparable teachings in Israel that a being a martyr killing Palestinians is a glorious goal!

Why has Israel killed far more innocent Palestinians than have Palestinians killed innocent Israelis?

Where are your facts?
My guess is that Israel has bomb shelters using billions for safety of their citizens.
Palestinians spend it on 20,000 rockets.
Here are MY FACTS versus your guesses!
Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”

Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen. There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it. Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.

The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million. Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.

I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control. And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.

It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

In just one 6 week period:

PALESTINIANS KILLED & INJURED

• According to the United Nations, between July 7 and August 26, at least 2131 Palestinians were killed in Gaza as a result of Israel’s “Operation Protective Edge.” According to Al Mezan Center for Human Rights, a total of 2168 Palestinians were killed, while the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) put the total number of Palestinian fatalities at 2191. (NOTE: Updated February 2015 to reflect revised PCHR figures)
• According to the UN, at least 1473 of the dead were civilians, including 501 children and 257 women, with another 379 individuals yet to be identified. According to PCHR, 1660 Palestinian civilians were killed, including 527 children and 299 women, while Al Mezan reported that 1666 of the dead were civilians, including 521 children and 297 women. For further reference, see “Notable Incidents of Civilian Casualties" section in fact sheet here. (NOTE: Updated February 2015 to reflect revised PCHR figures)
• According to the UN, at least 142 Palestinian families lost three or more members killed in a single Israeli attack, for a total of 739 fatalities (see here for more), and up to 1500 children were orphaned.
• According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 11,100 Palestinians were wounded, including 3374 children, 2088 women, and 410 elderly people. The UN estimates that 1000 of the injured children will suffer a lifelong disability.
• The UN estimates that at least 373,000 children require direct and specialized psychosocial support (PSS), while every child in Gaza has been affected by the crisis and will need some level of psychosocial support. (For more on the toll inflicted on Gaza’s children, see our recently released fact sheet, The Children of Gaza: A Generation Scarred & Under Siege.)
• During the same period, 71 Israelis were killed by Palestinians, including 66 soldiers and four civilians, as well as one foreign worker from Thailand.

Now was that so difficult? Thank you.

So while Israel has very sophisticated accessible bomb shelters where are the same for Palestinians?
After all they've received over $32 billion in foreign aid including $5 billion from the USA alone!
In addition to the above.... ISRAEL has GIVEN... To the PA........
(1) In September 2012, with the Palestinian Authority (PA) facing severe financial strain due to a shortfall in international donations and significant overspending, Israel advanced the PA 250 million shekels in tax revenues to aid the Palestinian economy.
Similarly, in July 2012, Israel advanced the PA 180 million shekels to ensure that the salaries of PA employees were paid before the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.

(2) Since the signing of the 1993 Oslo accord, real GDP per capita in the West Bank has increased considerably.
From 1998-2011, these numbers grew from about $1,750 to about $2,000 according to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians.
The report also notes that Gaza experienced a considerable rise in real GDP per capita from 2002-2005 before the Hamas takeover.

(3) In order to reduce the level of Palestinian unemployment, Israel has increased the number of permits for Palestinians to work in Israel - by 40% since February 2011.

(4) Despite the constant barrage of rocket attacks emanating from the Gaza Strip, Israel provides most of the electric supply for both the West Bank and Gaza. Approximately half of Gaza’s electricity is supplied directly from Israel by way of the Israel Electric Corporation (IEC). The remaining supply comes mostly from the Gaza Power Plant (GPP), which is funded not by Hamas but by the Palestinian Authority.

Billions of dollars in international aid is sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
Indeed, the PA reportedly spends approximately 40% of its annual budget on Gaza. Thus, much of the billions of dollars in international aid that is provided to the Palestinian Authority is in turn sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Despite owing the Israel Electric Corporation over 662 million shekels, Israel continues to provide electricity to the PA.
This includes supplying electricity to government buildings such as schools, hospitals, and water pumping stations.

(5) Following a March 2012 meeting of the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (the committee chaired by Norway and co-sponsored by the European Union that serves as the policy coordinating mechanism for development assistance to the Palestinian people), Israel appealed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to support PA requests for special IMF economic assistance. Israel even attempted to acquire a one billion dollar IMF loan on behalf of the PA, but was turned down because the IMF reportedly did not want to set a precedent of one state taking a loan on behalf of a non-state entity.

(6) In July 2012, Israel’s Minister of Finance, Dr. Yuval Steinitz, and PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, discussed new measures designed to boost the Palestinian economy. These included developing the Gaza Marine gas field which reportedly “could contribute dramatically to Palestinian fiscal sustainability.”

During 2011 and the first half of 2012, Israel closely collaborated with the PA to improve the Palestinian agriculture industry. This included projects to exterminate pests, improve soil quality, and increase international trade of Palestinian agricultural goods.

(7) Despite being governed by Hamas, an international terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction, Israel has established a number of initiatives meant to aid Gaza’s economy. These include provisions to promote the building of essential societal institutions such as schools, hospitals and sanitation centers. Since 2010, these Israeli initiatives have seen Gaza’s real GDP per capita improve considerably.

(8) Israel continues to provide extensive medical care to Palestinians, including those from the Gaza Strip. In 2009 alone, some 10,544 patients and their companions left Gaza for medical treatment inside Israel. Further, Israeli doctors working through the organization Save a Child’s Heart have performed free life-saving heart operations for 2,300 children since 1995, with almost half of these children coming from the Palestinian Territories, Jordan and Iraq.

(9) Recently, many Palestinians have voiced a desire to become citizens of Israel, especially in east Jerusalem. According to Hatem Abdel Kader, the Fatah official in charge of the “Jerusalem Portfolio”, this growing trend is a result of the failure of the PA and Arab and Islamic countries to help the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem. As noted by Khaled Abu Toameh of the Gatestone Institute, Abdel Kader “is admitting that Israel is doing more for these Palestinians than the Palestinian leadership and the entire Arab and Islamic countries.”

(10) The PA receives international aid primarily in the form of loans and grants from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), the United States, and Net Official Development Assistance (ODA), which is an amalgamation of aid packages from the nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and other international lending institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).

International aid to Palestinians far exceeds all Marshall Plan aid for post-WWII Europe.
Since 1996, the West Bank has received over 70,000 loans from the UNRWA alone, amounting to over 100 million dollars, and since 1992 Gaza has received over 98,000 UNRWA loans amounting to over 110 million dollars. To provide context, the amount of international aid provided to the Palestinians, taking inflation into account, far exceeds the Marshall Plan aid designated for rebuilding Europe following the Second World War.

(11) According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Hamas receives its funding primarily from private donors from Arab Gulf States, international Islamic charities such as the Holy Land Foundation (which was shut down in the US in 2001 for funding Hamas, a US-designated foreign terrorist organization), and Iran, that donates approximately 30 million dollars annually. As noted above, Hamas also receives direct funding from the PA.

(12) The United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) sole focus is the Palestinian population. According to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report, U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians, since its inception in 1950 through 2011, the United States has given the agency over $4 billion dollars and has always been UNWRA’s largest donor. Aggregate contributions from the Muslim world during this time makes up about 15% of the total budget. In 2011, UNWRA’s general fund (ie. core program) budget was $568 million, with the U.S. contribution almost $129 million, about 23% of its budget, with the total 2011 U.S. contribution to UNWRA almost $239.5 million. It is important to note that Saudi Arabia is the only Arab nation in the top-10 donors to UNWRA in 2011 with their core budget pledge at approximately $5.3 million and total pledge at $76.8 million.

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, “Initially, the United States contributed $25 million and Israel nearly $3 million. The total Arab pledges amounted to approximately $600,000. For the first 20 years, the United States provided more than two-thirds of the funds, while the Arab states continued to contribute a tiny fraction. Israel has donated more funds to UNRWA than most Arab states. The Saudis did not match Israel's contribution until 1973; Kuwait and Libya, not until 1980. As recently as 1994, Israel gave more to UNRWA than all Arab countries except Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Morocco.” Currently, Israel does not give directly but through their UN dues. The UN pledge to UNRWA was over $24.5 million in 2011, making it the 10th largest donor after Switzerland.
http://www.rubincenter.org/2012/06/...ollars-given-to-the-palestinian-authority-go/

And in exchange:
20,000 rocket attacks.... the same funds that could be used to shelter Palestinians!
No shelters, plus rockets as Hamas admits:
Just two weeks after the end of the latest round of fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, the Associated Press ran this story on Friday, revealing more evidence about Hamas's use of residential areas as launching grounds for their rockets.

Throughout the seven-week conflict, Israel frequently charged that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. The publicline uttered by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his surrogates was that Hamas was committing "double war crimes" by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into Israeli towns (to attack other civilians.)
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas
NOW where would you bomb if you knew rockets were coming from those locations???

So Israel calls them and warns them!!!

The call came to the cellphone of his brother’s wife, Salah Kaware said Tuesday. Mr. Kaware lives in Khan Younis, in southeast Gaza, and the caller said that everyone in the house must leave within five minutes, because it was going to be bombed.
A further warning came as the occupants were leaving, he said in a telephone interview, when an Israeli drone apparently fired a flare at the roof of the three-story home. “Our neighbors came in to form a human shield,” he said, with some even going to the roof to try to prevent a bombing. Others were in the stairway when the house was bombed not long afterward.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/w...aflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

AGAIN now that you are aware that :
A) Israel GIVES money to Palestinians
B) Spends money on bomb shelters but PA doesn't!
C) SENDS warnings via cellphone etc. ...
WHAT the f...k MORE do you want Israel to do in the light the Palestinian children are taught to hate these same people?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's too late for either a one-state or two-state solution.

Decades too late.

The Palestinians have to go.

It's just a matter of how.

Walking, or carried out.

Their choice.

The Jews of Israel carrying out a genocide of the Palestinians.

fascinating.

Expulsion, preferably, rather than extinction.

And, of course, it would be better if the UN recognized reality, and stepped in, and evacuated and relocated the so-called Palestinians, as a global effort.

Why not relocate the Israelis?

 

[healthmyths]

I really apologize to all of you for overloading this forum with the FACTS but I get very frustrated when a few people make gross exaggerated statements and don't
provide and substantiation for their comments!
I apologize for going overboard but what can one do to combat intellectual lazinesses in this case defending a group of people teaching their kids to kill the very people that send them money, provide them 100,000 in jobs and this group of people thank them by using the money to launch 20,000 rockets !
It is just shear stupidity on the part of these lazy people that form an opinion without doing any research!
That is why I overload and hopefully some of those ignorant and lazy people might think for a few minutes with the material provided.

 

[CowboyTed]

I really apologize to all of you for overloading this forum with the FACTS but I get very frustrated when a few people make gross exaggerated statements and don't
provide and substantiation for their comments!
I apologize for going overboard but what can one do to combat intellectual lazinesses in this case defending a group of people teaching their kids to kill the very people that send them money, provide them 100,000 in jobs and this group of people thank them by using the money to launch 20,000 rockets !
It is just shear stupidity on the part of these lazy people that form an opinion without doing any research!
That is why I overload and hopefully some of those ignorant and lazy people might think for a few minutes with the material provided.

Please actually learn about the region before commenting... You are embarassing yourself..

 

[healthmyths]

It's too late for either a one-state or two-state solution.

Decades too late.

The Palestinians have to go.

It's just a matter of how.

Walking, or carried out.

Their choice.

The Jews of Israel carrying out a genocide of the Palestinians.

fascinating.

Expulsion, preferably, rather than extinction.

And, of course, it would be better if the UN recognized reality, and stepped in, and evacuated and relocated the so-called Palestinians, as a global effort.

Why not relocate the Israelis?

Living in the area historically

• Jewish presence in the area is several thousand years old, based on archaeological and historiographical evidence.
  
  
• Moreover, while the population was thinned by the exodus, there was an unbroken Jewish presence in all of what is both modern Israel and what is modern Palestinian Authority territory (As far as the latter, for example, Gush Etzion and Hevron, had Jewish communities that had existed for thousands of years before they were depopulated in Arab riots and by Arab armies in 20th century).
  
  
• On the other hand, Arabs have a pretty long presence in the area as well. While they lose on longevity (they mainly settled the aree after 0AD and especially 700AD), they win on numbers - during those years, there were indeed a lot more Arabs living in the area than Jews, being that Jews were heavily from living there by controlling foreign powers starting with Rome.
  
  
• An important note, however, is that those Arabs living there did NOT self-identify as "Palestinians", until 20th century.
  
  What is the historical basis of Israeli and Palestinian claims to the land that is now under Israeli control?
  

Why not other Arab countries take the Palestinians?

 

[healthmyths]

I really apologize to all of you for overloading this forum with the FACTS but I get very frustrated when a few people make gross exaggerated statements and don't
provide and substantiation for their comments!
I apologize for going overboard but what can one do to combat intellectual lazinesses in this case defending a group of people teaching their kids to kill the very people that send them money, provide them 100,000 in jobs and this group of people thank them by using the money to launch 20,000 rockets !
It is just shear stupidity on the part of these lazy people that form an opinion without doing any research!
That is why I overload and hopefully some of those ignorant and lazy people might think for a few minutes with the material provided.

Please actually learn about the region before commenting... You are embarassing yourself..

Well then correct my sources NOT me as I'm doing what obviously you can't do, i.e. substantiate!
And don't embarrass yourself by making an ignorant accusation especially with NO background to support your statement!

 

[Billo_Really]

I really apologize to all of you for overloading this forum with the FACTS but I get very frustrated when a few people make gross exaggerated statements and don't
provide and substantiation for their comments!
I apologize for going overboard but what can one do to combat intellectual lazinesses in this case defending a group of people teaching their kids to kill the very people that send them money, provide them 100,000 in jobs and this group of people thank them by using the money to launch 20,000 rockets !
It is just shear stupidity on the part of these lazy people that form an opinion without doing any research!
That is why I overload and hopefully some of those ignorant and lazy people might think for a few minutes with the material provided.

You views are completely one-sided and do not depict the actual truth in any way.

Israel is a very sick society that treats the Pals like garbage. They murder their children. Shoot them dead in the streets. And the ones that survive, they deny them medical attention and arrest anyone trying to help the victims.

 

[The Rabbi]

I really apologize to all of you for overloading this forum with the FACTS but I get very frustrated when a few people make gross exaggerated statements and don't
provide and substantiation for their comments!
I apologize for going overboard but what can one do to combat intellectual lazinesses in this case defending a group of people teaching their kids to kill the very people that send them money, provide them 100,000 in jobs and this group of people thank them by using the money to launch 20,000 rockets !
It is just shear stupidity on the part of these lazy people that form an opinion without doing any research!
That is why I overload and hopefully some of those ignorant and lazy people might think for a few minutes with the material provided.

You views are completely one-sided and do not depict the actual truth in any way.

Israel is a very sick society that treats the Pals like garbage. They murder their children. Shoot them dead in the streets. And the ones that survive, they deny them medical attention and arrest anyone trying to help the victims.

That's a complete fail, but no surprise coming from a brainless jew-hater like you.
In fact Arabs have rights in Israel and are represented in the government. "Kids" get shot because their parents stick them in front of Israeli guns and hope for propaganda victories so they can convince weak minded morons like you. Successfully we see.

 

[turzovka]

You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!

They're being taught to hate by:

• Israeli tyranny
• A brutal occupation of their homeland
• An immoral blockade of their city
• Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
• Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
• Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
• Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7

Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:

• They are the "chosen" ones
• The Palestinian's are sub-human
• The Palestinian's are savages and animals
• They Palestinian's have no right to be there
• This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
• The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc

That's the short list.

I can see even more clearly now how impossible of a task has for Israel to win over so-called “sensible and fair” minds in the West. The enemy is truly Islamic ideology which resents Jewish teaching and a Jewish presence anywhere in their midst. But the great abettors of the enemy are the “useful idiots” in the West.

And why do nations and people of Christian ilk or secular ilk buy into this insanity? Because… well I cannot really say? Surely the devil himself convinces all of us of various lies, but the aspect of self pride enters in as well.

Anyway, I do not think I can help you. You continue to play your selective games of blaming Jews for all of the murders and hatred and intolerance put upon them since they started arriving, peacefully and legally, in the early 1900’s. It will probably help your cause if you ignore all that history and just start your lament after the Arabs lost Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza after the 1967 war. Because, after all, that is what they are demanding is so unfair today. Not sure why they wanted kill all those Jews back when they had all that?

 

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Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
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During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".

Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.

"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'

Palestinians only know hate... Their actions prove this over and over.

Embrace the truth

 

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Now was that so difficult? Thank you.

So while Israel has very sophisticated accessible bomb shelters where are the same for Palestinians?
After all they've received over $32 billion in foreign aid including $5 billion from the USA alone!
In addition to the above.... ISRAEL has GIVEN... To the PA........
(1) In September 2012, with the Palestinian Authority (PA) facing severe financial strain due to a shortfall in international donations and significant overspending, Israel advanced the PA 250 million shekels in tax revenues to aid the Palestinian economy.
Similarly, in July 2012, Israel advanced the PA 180 million shekels to ensure that the salaries of PA employees were paid before the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.

(2) Since the signing of the 1993 Oslo accord, real GDP per capita in the West Bank has increased considerably.
From 1998-2011, these numbers grew from about $1,750 to about $2,000 according to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians.
The report also notes that Gaza experienced a considerable rise in real GDP per capita from 2002-2005 before the Hamas takeover.

(3) In order to reduce the level of Palestinian unemployment, Israel has increased the number of permits for Palestinians to work in Israel - by 40% since February 2011.

(4) Despite the constant barrage of rocket attacks emanating from the Gaza Strip, Israel provides most of the electric supply for both the West Bank and Gaza. Approximately half of Gaza’s electricity is supplied directly from Israel by way of the Israel Electric Corporation (IEC). The remaining supply comes mostly from the Gaza Power Plant (GPP), which is funded not by Hamas but by the Palestinian Authority.

Billions of dollars in international aid is sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
Indeed, the PA reportedly spends approximately 40% of its annual budget on Gaza. Thus, much of the billions of dollars in international aid that is provided to the Palestinian Authority is in turn sent to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

Despite owing the Israel Electric Corporation over 662 million shekels, Israel continues to provide electricity to the PA.
This includes supplying electricity to government buildings such as schools, hospitals, and water pumping stations.

(5) Following a March 2012 meeting of the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee (the committee chaired by Norway and co-sponsored by the European Union that serves as the policy coordinating mechanism for development assistance to the Palestinian people), Israel appealed to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to support PA requests for special IMF economic assistance. Israel even attempted to acquire a one billion dollar IMF loan on behalf of the PA, but was turned down because the IMF reportedly did not want to set a precedent of one state taking a loan on behalf of a non-state entity.

(6) In July 2012, Israel’s Minister of Finance, Dr. Yuval Steinitz, and PA Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, discussed new measures designed to boost the Palestinian economy. These included developing the Gaza Marine gas field which reportedly “could contribute dramatically to Palestinian fiscal sustainability.”

During 2011 and the first half of 2012, Israel closely collaborated with the PA to improve the Palestinian agriculture industry. This included projects to exterminate pests, improve soil quality, and increase international trade of Palestinian agricultural goods.

(7) Despite being governed by Hamas, an international terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction, Israel has established a number of initiatives meant to aid Gaza’s economy. These include provisions to promote the building of essential societal institutions such as schools, hospitals and sanitation centers. Since 2010, these Israeli initiatives have seen Gaza’s real GDP per capita improve considerably.

(8) Israel continues to provide extensive medical care to Palestinians, including those from the Gaza Strip. In 2009 alone, some 10,544 patients and their companions left Gaza for medical treatment inside Israel. Further, Israeli doctors working through the organization Save a Child’s Heart have performed free life-saving heart operations for 2,300 children since 1995, with almost half of these children coming from the Palestinian Territories, Jordan and Iraq.

(9) Recently, many Palestinians have voiced a desire to become citizens of Israel, especially in east Jerusalem. According to Hatem Abdel Kader, the Fatah official in charge of the “Jerusalem Portfolio”, this growing trend is a result of the failure of the PA and Arab and Islamic countries to help the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem. As noted by Khaled Abu Toameh of the Gatestone Institute, Abdel Kader “is admitting that Israel is doing more for these Palestinians than the Palestinian leadership and the entire Arab and Islamic countries.”

(10) The PA receives international aid primarily in the form of loans and grants from the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), the United Nations Development Program (UNDP), the United States, and Net Official Development Assistance (ODA), which is an amalgamation of aid packages from the nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and other international lending institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).

International aid to Palestinians far exceeds all Marshall Plan aid for post-WWII Europe.
Since 1996, the West Bank has received over 70,000 loans from the UNRWA alone, amounting to over 100 million dollars, and since 1992 Gaza has received over 98,000 UNRWA loans amounting to over 110 million dollars. To provide context, the amount of international aid provided to the Palestinians, taking inflation into account, far exceeds the Marshall Plan aid designated for rebuilding Europe following the Second World War.

(11) According to the Council on Foreign Relations, Hamas receives its funding primarily from private donors from Arab Gulf States, international Islamic charities such as the Holy Land Foundation (which was shut down in the US in 2001 for funding Hamas, a US-designated foreign terrorist organization), and Iran, that donates approximately 30 million dollars annually. As noted above, Hamas also receives direct funding from the PA.

(12) The United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) sole focus is the Palestinian population. According to the June 2012 U.S. congressional report, U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians, since its inception in 1950 through 2011, the United States has given the agency over $4 billion dollars and has always been UNWRA’s largest donor. Aggregate contributions from the Muslim world during this time makes up about 15% of the total budget. In 2011, UNWRA’s general fund (ie. core program) budget was $568 million, with the U.S. contribution almost $129 million, about 23% of its budget, with the total 2011 U.S. contribution to UNWRA almost $239.5 million. It is important to note that Saudi Arabia is the only Arab nation in the top-10 donors to UNWRA in 2011 with their core budget pledge at approximately $5.3 million and total pledge at $76.8 million.

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, “Initially, the United States contributed $25 million and Israel nearly $3 million. The total Arab pledges amounted to approximately $600,000. For the first 20 years, the United States provided more than two-thirds of the funds, while the Arab states continued to contribute a tiny fraction. Israel has donated more funds to UNRWA than most Arab states. The Saudis did not match Israel's contribution until 1973; Kuwait and Libya, not until 1980. As recently as 1994, Israel gave more to UNRWA than all Arab countries except Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Morocco.” Currently, Israel does not give directly but through their UN dues. The UN pledge to UNRWA was over $24.5 million in 2011, making it the 10th largest donor after Switzerland.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?

And in exchange:
20,000 rocket attacks.... the same funds that could be used to shelter Palestinians!
No shelters, plus rockets as Hamas admits:
Just two weeks after the end of the latest round of fighting between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, the Associated Press ran this story on Friday, revealing more evidence about Hamas's use of residential areas as launching grounds for their rockets.

Throughout the seven-week conflict, Israel frequently charged that Hamas had been using schools, hospitals, and homes to fire rockets into Israel. The publicline uttered by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his surrogates was that Hamas was committing "double war crimes" by firing from heavily populated civilian centers (using human shields) into Israeli towns (to attack other civilians.)
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas
NOW where would you bomb if you knew rockets were coming from those locations???

So Israel calls them and warns them!!!

The call came to the cellphone of his brother’s wife, Salah Kaware said Tuesday. Mr. Kaware lives in Khan Younis, in southeast Gaza, and the caller said that everyone in the house must leave within five minutes, because it was going to be bombed.
A further warning came as the occupants were leaving, he said in a telephone interview, when an Israeli drone apparently fired a flare at the roof of the three-story home. “Our neighbors came in to form a human shield,” he said, with some even going to the roof to try to prevent a bombing. Others were in the stairway when the house was bombed not long afterward.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/w...aflet-israeli-attackers-warn-gazans.html?_r=0

AGAIN now that you are aware that :
A) Israel GIVES money to Palestinians
B) Spends money on bomb shelters but PA doesn't!
C) SENDS warnings via cellphone etc. ...
WHAT the f...k MORE do you want Israel to do in the light the Palestinian children are taught to hate these same people?

What's with the ******* data dump, asshole?

Israel wouldn't have to do any of that if they would just end the occupation and blockade.