Physics refresher and global warming

[Delta4Embassy]

If you start a fire in your fireplace, the heat there will draw in heat from rooms adjacent to the room with the fireplace. Works on planetary scale too. Because global warming is raising temperatures around the world (say Alaska currently, which is considerably warmer than the lower-48 with polar vortex,) heat in the extreme north is lowering temps further south. So jus because it's record cold in CONUS now, doesn't mean global warming was wrong, because it IS warmer elsewhere.

 

[jon_berzerk]

If you start a fire in your fireplace, the heat there will draw in heat from rooms adjacent to the room with the fireplace. Works on planetary scale too. Because global warming is raising temperatures around the world (say Alaska currently, which is considerably warmer than the lower-48 with polar vortex,) heat in the extreme north is lowering temps further south. So jus because it's record cold in CONUS now, doesn't mean global warming was wrong, because it IS warmer elsewhere.

--LOL

really

are you serious

without a dampener the heat from the room and adjacent rooms

will draw up through your fireplace without fire

if your fireplace does not have a fresh air intake

it will draw air (warm or cold) to supply

the fire with Oxygen

--LOL

 

[SwimExpert]

Are you kidding me? You idiot, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

The reason a fire place can make your house colder has nothing to do with the fire. It has to do with the fact that heat escapes from the chimney at a rate faster than the fire injects heat into the house. This is nowhere near close to being similar to what you are talking about with the polar vortex. It's an amazingly stupid comparison.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Are you kidding me? You idiot, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

The reason a fire place can make your house colder has nothing to do with the fire. It has to do with the fact that heat escapes from the chimney at a rate faster than the fire injects heat into the house. This is nowhere near close to being similar to what you are talking about with the polar vortex. It's an amazingly stupid comparison.

this appears to be a pretty short thread

i was expecting more

considering it is a physics refresher
--LOL

 

[SwimExpert]

Maybe he got his refresher.

 

[PredFan]

Notice how the AGW alarmists only argue that the planet is getting warmer. The real argument that they avoid, is whether man is causing it or not.

It's the sun stupid!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you start a fire in your fireplace, the heat there will draw in heat from rooms adjacent to the room with the fireplace. Works on planetary scale too. Because global warming is raising temperatures around the world (say Alaska currently, which is considerably warmer than the lower-48 with polar vortex,) heat in the extreme north is lowering temps further south. So jus because it's record cold in CONUS now, doesn't mean global warming was wrong, because it IS warmer elsewhere.

Fire? Hmm, that like that Big Yellow Thing in the Sky is a giant fireball

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Lighting a fire in a fireplace with chimney can make a house colder. Confirmed The living room was heated and the nearby kitchen remained unchanged, but other more distant rooms got almost 3 °F (2 °C) colder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)

The currents in the world’s oceans are a result of varying temperatures associated with the changing latitudes of our planet. As the atmosphere is warmed nearest the equator, the hot air at the surface of our planet is heated, causing it to rise and draw in cooler air to take its place, creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles than at the equator.
Effects of global warming on oceans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance." Q, Star Trek:TNG

 

[SwimExpert]

You need to learn the difference between an open system and a closed system.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The deep freeze is driving the AGWCult to desperation and despondency

 

[PredFan]

So let me get this straight.

Global warming causes winters to be cold and summers to be hot?

Sounds ok to me.

 

[Jughead]

Not sure about the fireplace theory. However, I am sure that heat rises, thus the heaters upstairs in the bedrooms are usually kept lower than those downstairs.

 

[asterism]

Lighting a fire in a fireplace with chimney can make a house colder. Confirmed The living room was heated and the nearby kitchen remained unchanged, but other more distant rooms got almost 3 °F (2 °C) colder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)

The currents in the world’s oceans are a result of varying temperatures associated with the changing latitudes of our planet. As the atmosphere is warmed nearest the equator, the hot air at the surface of our planet is heated, causing it to rise and draw in cooler air to take its place, creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles than at the equator.
Effects of global warming on oceans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance." Q, Star Trek:TNG

The fire isn't "drawing heat" from other rooms, it's creating wind. The open flue and the heat from the fire is moving the air up and out which causes a slight vacuum in the other rooms which draw cold air from outside through the cracks in your window and door frames.

The same thing would happen without a fire if you put a fan in the chimney and opened the flue.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you start a fire in your fireplace, the heat there will draw in heat from rooms adjacent to the room with the fireplace. Works on planetary scale too. Because global warming is raising temperatures around the world (say Alaska currently, which is considerably warmer than the lower-48 with polar vortex,) heat in the extreme north is lowering temps further south. So jus because it's record cold in CONUS now, doesn't mean global warming was wrong, because it IS warmer elsewhere.

So the warming in global warming is neither global nor warming

Hmmkay

 

[Delta4Embassy]

This is like trying to get cats to march in a parade.

 

[PredFan]

This is like trying to get cats to march in a parade.

A mentally deficient person would attempt to do two things: March cats, and post your OP.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is like trying to get cats to march in a parade.

A flock of AGWSheep would see it as such

 

[polarbear]

Lighting a fire in a fireplace with chimney can make a house colder. Confirmed The living room was heated and the nearby kitchen remained unchanged, but other more distant rooms got almost 3 °F (2 °C) colder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)

The currents in the world’s oceans are a result of varying temperatures associated with the changing latitudes of our planet. As the atmosphere is warmed nearest the equator, the hot air at the surface of our planet is heated, causing it to rise and draw in cooler air to take its place, creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles than at the equator.
Effects of global warming on oceans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance." Q, Star Trek:TNG

According to your idiotic "explanation" a camp fire would make the surrounding area colder

And according to you the warmer it gets down south the colder it gets up north...that`s a new one.
Why don`t you tell meteorologists how your "chimney effect" of a (warm) low pressure system in Florida cools down the arctic.

creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles than at the equator.

Which air current or "circulation cell" are you talking about?

Incredible how stupid you AGW freaks can be

Confirmed The living room was heated and the nearby kitchen remained unchanged, but other more distant rooms got almost 3 °F (2 °C) colder.

It`s 90*60 = 5400 nautical miles from the equator to the pole.
Compare that with how "far" your "more distant room" is from your fireplace chimney.
Your chimney is sucking warm air out of your house, which is replaced with the colder air from just outside your house.
In your idiotic house & fire place example where the other rooms got colder, how exactly would that fireplace make the cold air outside any colder?
Because that`s what you are claiming when you upscale your stupid fireplace & house example to the equator & pole:

creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)

A TV show !!!..Is that where you got your "physics" education for this retarded "physics-refresher-and-global-warming-" lecture ?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Lighting a fire in a fireplace with chimney can make a house colder. Confirmed The living room was heated and the nearby kitchen remained unchanged, but other more distant rooms got almost 3 °F (2 °C) colder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2004_season)

The currents in the world’s oceans are a result of varying temperatures associated with the changing latitudes of our planet. As the atmosphere is warmed nearest the equator, the hot air at the surface of our planet is heated, causing it to rise and draw in cooler air to take its place, creating what is known as circulation cells.[21] This ultimately causes the air to be significantly colder near the poles than at the equator.
Effects of global warming on oceans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance." Q, Star Trek:TNG

thanks for the added touch of stupidity

still does not explain your theory of fire drawing heat