Marener
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Anyone paying attention knows that Trump is a huge bullshitter.
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Anyone paying attention knows that Trump is a huge bullshitter.
Prove it.They had inspectors at their nuclear enrichment sites.
Not at all, it was a horrible deal, and needed to be replaced with a deal that benefits the US, and the world.Trump acted in bad faith by ending the JCPOA.
of course you side with the leading state sponsor of terror.They had inspectors at their nuclear enrichment sites.
Trump acted in bad faith by ending the JCPOA.
Infantile ranting is a good way to describe Hegseth whining about reporters who are doing their job.This post is a great example of why no one takes you seriously...It's just infantile ranting...
For instance, no one in here believes for one second that posters like you would even attempt to offer ideas, or try to work with Trump's administration.
In your second comment here, what is it that you think we had in 2018? Iran wasn't adhering to the JOPCA. They from the jump blocked inspectors, and over the years made pronouncements that they were increasing their levels of centrifuges, proving that they were racing to get a nuke in violation of the deal. And, the deal was a dud from the start. A deal that allowed Iran to, even if they followed to the letter would have allowed them to get a nuke after 10 years is no deal, it's kicking the can down the road, and ensuring that Iran would be a nuclear weaponized State.
Now, imagine a world where the #1 State sponsor of terrorism had nukes? Does anyone think that would be a good thing? I sure don't....
As for your last pejorative, I would just SMH, and say to you, that kind of BS is not helpful at all...You really think that after years of you leftists hurling that kind of insult, that it actually means anything anymore? When do you decide that that approach isn't working? Look at your party, in shambles, and broke....Yeah, that's working great! Not.
I know, you hate opposition to your party's goals, and think that name calling, and vile posting makes your point, but what you do is make people shrug you off and dismiss anything you have to say....You really need to get better. I hope you do.
You can't say Trump followed the agreement when he broke the deal.of course you side with the leading state sponsor of terror.
Trump followed the agreement, Iran acted in bad faith and had not released all their scientific research. Trump certainly was found to be 100 percent correct, given how Iran violated both the actual treaty, the NPT, and also violated the JCPCA.
Trump didn't act in bad faith, he wasn't part of the political arrangement at all. Why do you just lie? Just admit you support Iran.
I don’t know what happens next but it seems clear that Iran is more incentivized to have nuclear weapons than ever before.
I don't have any ideas or suggestions for the Trump administration. I think they should have stuck to the JCPOA in 2018 because it was a better situation than what we are facing now.
So now it’s a forever war. That’s where Trump has brought us.So now they want us deader than dead? Yeah, ok.
Look, it doesn't matter how incentivized they are. There was no making friends or even peace with the mullahs before. That was always a pipe dream. Democrats seem to fall for that mushy, cushy nonsense every time. With intel from the US and Israel, they will not be developing a nuclear weapon anytime soon. It takes quite a while to get everything setup again. They may try to purchase such weapons from China or Russia, but they could have done that previously with the money we gave back to them. I don't see why it would be any different now. There really is no way to spin this into the fact that they hated us before and they hate us now. The difference is we have limited their ability for that hate to reach us in the form of a nuclear weapon.
Under the JCPOA, they did not have highly enriched uranium.What situation are we facing now? An Iran that doesn't have the capability to develop nuclear weapons but hates us. Under JCPOA, they hated us but was developing or had the capability of developing nuclear weapons. How is the latter a better situation?
So now it’s a forever war. That’s where Trump has brought us.
Under the JCPOA, they did not have highly enriched uranium.
They certainly did before these airstrikes and now we have no idea where that material is.
Is that worth celebrating?
you just said we will never have peace with the mullahs.No it isn’t. They will continue to fund terrorism just as they were before. We will do nothing different other than to take out their nuke sites if they decide to start over. Simple.
I don’t see any use in discussing this with you then. You put out a body of this post, without any links backing up what you’re saying, so, I have no choice but to dismiss it as untrue.Infantile ranting is a good way to describe Hegseth whining about reporters who are doing their job.
I don't have any ideas or suggestions for the Trump administration. I think they should have stuck to the JCPOA in 2018 because it was a better situation than what we are facing now.
I know you were told to believe that they weren't adhering to the JCPOA, but that's not really true.
IAEA certified that they were not blocked from inspecting sites.
You claim that there were pronouncements of centrifuges, but you'll never back that claim up.
They kept their uranium at 3.6% enriched and less than 200 kg. That's notably BETTER than the 200 kg of 60% enriched uranium they have AFTER Trump left the deal.
The claim that they would have gotten a nuclear weapon after 10 years is stupid. The deal expired in 10 years, but that just means they would need to renew it.
The problem we are facing is a lack of adherence to reality. Trump just say shit that's convenient for him, it doesn't matter if it's true. You know this, we all know this, but somehow you believe his bullshit anyway.
Of course no. They'll buy some proper nuclear weapons and then start playing the old but gold deterrence game - "You attack our bases - we nuke your cities". Even 5% risk of getting a nuclear cruise missile hitting any major American city, likely, will prevent any actual plan of American aggression against Iran.No it isn’t. They will continue to fund terrorism just as they were before. We will do nothing different other than to take out their nuke sites if they decide to start over. Simple.
Totally delusional..Of course no. They'll buy some proper nuclear weapons and then start playing the old but gold deterrence game - "You attack our bases - we nuke your cities". Even 5% risk of getting a nuclear cruise missile hitting any major American city, likely, will prevent any actual plan of American aggression against Iran.
It was a joke. If you can’t inspect military bases there is no way to know what they are doing, Moroner.The JCPOA was a success, but you won’t admit it because you have ODS.
I don’t believe Caine said anything of the sort and you will never prove your assertion.
My point here is that you say the JCPOA couldn’t determine the state of the Iranian nuclear weapons program through inspections but you seem to think you can determine the state of the program through a couple of satellite photos.
That’s a problem.
Sorry, but I don’t take Trump’s word for it. The uranium can be moved around in the trunk of an ordinary car.Under JCPOA, they had the ability the enrich uranium to weapons grade. Now they don’t. That is a win.
We and Mossad were monitoring all movement prior to Israel striking, which caught them off guard. They haven’t moved anything. They had it in a mountain they believed to be safe. It wasn’t.
Fixed it for ya.That is what you would like, but fortunately we have kicked their asses UP to the stone age. The greatdoes it again!
Barry’s EO was a joke. Iran never even signed it, Moroner.I have no idea what that means.
If Trump hadn’t made the wrong call in ruining the JCPOA, this wouldn’t have been necessary. Admit it.
Or are you going to go back to saying that unless I agree with you, I’m a terrorist?