Pete Hegseth blasts " insane fallacy that 'our diversity is our strength.'”

[SweetTea]

Uh, guy, that's the only reason people sign up for the military, is to get benefits.

Special privileges and benefits aren't the same thing. The vast majority of people work for money and benefits. You didn't know that?

Just curious, but how exactly is having a lower standard for women than men for the same job "equal"? You guys are kind of stupid.

It's always amusing to watch a white male talk about "privileges".

I don't have any, but your self-loathing, white guilt is noted...again.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Nobody ever said any of those things.

Democrats have been saying those things for years. Please stop lying.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Just curious, but how exactly is having a lower standard for women than men for the same job "equal"? You guys are kind of stupid.

We lower the standards till women have the same chance of passing as the men. That's what democrats call equal treatment.

 

[JoeB131]

Special privileges and benefits aren't the same thing. The vast majority of people work for money and benefits. You didn't know that?

Just curious, but how exactly is having a lower standard for women than men for the same job "equal"? You guys are kind of stupid.



I don't have any, but your self-loathing, white guilt is noted...again.

Well, that isn't true to start with. Why are older service members held to a lower standard for the same job? You are confusing the PT test (which does vary between gender and age) with the Physical requirements of certain MOS's.

Actual combat roles, like fighter pilots, have gender neutral physical tests.

Are combat fitness requirements really lower for women?

Hegseth raised eyebrows this week when he said in a speech to military generals that fitness standards for combat must "return to the highest male standard."

mynorthwest.com

“Those standards for combat roles have never been lowered,” said Elisa Cardnell, a Navy veteran who grew up in Lacey and is now the president of the Service Women’s Action Network. “They’ve always been gender neutral, and they are set to match the job.

“For example, an infantry personnel is going to have to march a certain distance, carrying certain equipment, and that doesn’t matter if they’re a 19-year-old guy or a 35-year-old woman,” she continued.

She said gender and age are taken into account in general fitness requirements.

“Those are gender normed and aged normed, so for example, a 19-year-old service woman is probably going to be doing more pushups than a 45-year-old general, because our fitness peaks in our 20s,” Cardnell said.

She added that diversity has made the U.S. armed services more effective, and women have filled vital roles.

Cardnell pointed to the Lioness Teams — which later became Female Engagement Teams and the Cultural Support Teams — that deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[drudge X]

Force diversity is never a strength. Force diversity invites mistrust and withdrawal. You'd figure that if diversity is so great, why aren't more people embracing the practice willingly. Why must government and workplace threat of withholding funding or denying promotion against those rejecting the idea?

 

[JoeB131]

Force diversity is never a strength. Force diversity invites mistrust and withdrawal. You'd figure that if diversity is so great, why aren't more people embracing the practice willingly. Why must government and workplace threat of withholding funding or denying promotion against those rejecting the idea?

I think you mean "Forced Diversity".

By your logic, then, the military never should have desegregated in 1949. That was "forcing" diversity onto white soldiers who didn't want to serve with black soldiers. And I am sure there were more than a few racists who quit the military rather than serve alongside blacks, or worse, have to report to one.

 

[drudge X]

I think you mean "Forced Diversity".

By your logic, then, the military never should have desegregated in 1949. That was "forcing" diversity onto white soldiers who didn't want to serve with black soldiers. And I am sure there were more than a few racists who quit the military rather than serve alongside blacks, or worse, have to report to one.

Yes forced. What occurred then was nothing compare with what we are seeing today. Back then, government and several private organizations were doing this but it was just "integration" rather than looking for trans, lesbian, one legged lesbian Muslim or a gender confused individual. There were no trans day and gay pride day in the military. The irony with sports is every time the argument of diversity is brought up, the same excuse is well yeah, we have more blacks and Hispanics playing the the pro league now than from decades ago. That's not diversity, not even close. Organizations selected the best to play on the team. Diversity has nothing to do with it. Elon Musk challenged Cuban when Cuban was lecturing America about diversity. Musk told Cuban, "let me know when the Mavericks draft a short Asian woman." Cuban shut his mouth.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes forced. What occurred then was nothing compare with what we are seeing today. Back then, government and several private organizations were doing this but it was just "integration" rather than looking for trans, lesbian, one legged lesbian Muslim or a gender confused individual.

I'm sorry, when did the military ever look for those, specifically? (A one legged person probably couldn't serve, as they wouldn't pass the physical standard.)

Hey, Tammy Duckworth. Lost both legs in Iraq, and she's an Asian-American woman. Is that "Diversity", or just a highly qualified person who made the penultimate sacrifice for her country?

There were no trans day and gay pride day in the military.

And so?

I went through Army Basic Training in 1981. Well before the "woke" you guys talk about, but we still had diversity training about race and gender (although not sexual orientation, as that was still against the rules, even though there were a lot of gay service members.)

One of the people I served with in the IL Guard was James N. Pritzker (cousin of the current IL Governor). Later, she came out and changed her name to Jennifer N. Pritzker. But before that, she was promoted to the rank of Lt. Colonel, won numerous awards for her service from both the US and Israeli militaries.

The irony with sports is every time the argument of diversity is brought up, the same excuse is well yeah, we have more blacks and Hispanics playing the the pro league now than from decades ago. That's not diversity, not even close. Organizations selected the best to play on the team. Diversity has nothing to do with it. Elon Musk challenged Cuban when Cuban was lecturing America about diversity. Musk told Cuban, "let me know when the Mavericks draft a short Asian woman." Cuban shut his mouth.

Not even sure if that's an apt comparison. A professional athlete is well outside the norm of human potential. Only 2% of HS Athletes make it to College on scholarships, and only 2% of them go pro. Some sports, like Hockey and Baseball, don't even pretend to go through the charade of the NCAA, they just find really talented foreigners.

 

[SweetTea]

Not even sure if that's an apt comparison. A professional athlete is well outside the norm of human potential. Only 2% of HS Athletes make it to College on scholarships, and only 2% of them go pro. Some sports, like Hockey and Baseball, don't even pretend to go through the charade of the NCAA, they just find really talented foreigners.

What do any of these statistics matter? If diversity is a strength in the professional business world, why is it not a strength in professional sports? Using liberal logic, it would make the team better. The real issue is that we all know that it wouldn't. The same applies in the business world. I don't want just an engineer, I want to hire the best engineer I can find. A professional football team doesn't want just any field qb they want the best qb they can find. This isn't rocket science, but the left is hypocritical on this subject because it doesn't suit their narrative. Typical.

 

[Hafar1014]

Poor Aryan Hegseth. Someone did not tell him yet that we, a nation of mutts, defeated Trump's ancestors' asses.

Unity is a strength diversity is conflict

 

[Unkotare]

What Is Hybrid Vigor?

Hybrid vigor is the increase in certain characteristics like growth rate, size, fertility, yield etc. of a particular hybrid organism over its parents. Hybrid vigor is also known by some other names, including heterosis and inbreeding enhancement.

www.scienceabc.com

 

[JoeB131]

What do any of these statistics matter? If diversity is a strength in the professional business world, why is it not a strength in professional sports? Using liberal logic, it would make the team better. The real issue is that we all know that it wouldn't. The same applies in the business world. I don't want just an engineer, I want to hire the best engineer I can find. A professional football team doesn't want just any field qb they want the best qb they can find. This isn't rocket science, but the left is hypocritical on this subject because it doesn't suit their narrative. Typical.

I am not sure why you think your average workplace or even the military is comparable to a sports team, something only a fraction of a percent would ever qualify for.

The reality is, a diverse workplace is usually a better one because you are less likely to have groupthink. People bringing different experiences and different perspectives is always a good thing.

As I said, I'd rather work with a room full of Diversity Hires than a single Entitled Nepo-Baby.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

The reality is, a diverse workplace is usually a better one because you are less likely to have groupthink. People bringing different experiences and different perspectives is always a good thing.

BS - as my sig says - Racism is natural. It makes perfect evolutionary sense that we have evolved to prefer people that might be genetically related to us and distrust those who obviously are not related.

It's best for a company if all the workers are white and natural english speakers. THINK

 

[Unkotare]

BS - as my sig says - Racism is natural. It makes perfect evolutionary sense that we have evolved to prefer people that might be genetically related to us and distrust those who obviously are not related.

It's best for a company if all the workers are white and natural english speakers. THINK

You're a ******* coward and a pathetic weakling.

 

[drudge X]

I am not sure why you think your average workplace or even the military is comparable to a sports team, something only a fraction of a percent would ever qualify for.

The reality is, a diverse workplace is usually a better one because you are less likely to have groupthink. People bringing different experiences and different perspectives is always a good thing.

As I said, I'd rather work with a room full of Diversity Hires than a single Entitled Nepo-Baby.

Only a very small fraction of people can design and build semiconductors. At least diversity in sports, nobody will die if a short Asian lesbian woman misses the basket. There's zero margin of error in building semiconductors but that didn't stop Democrats from pushing DEI.

Also, group think works best when managers allowed employees more decision making. Employees know more than managers when it comes to collaboration. They know who the slackers are. If the group prefer to work with slackers instead of someone from different ethnicity, the group deserves all blame if failure arises. Forced collaboration only invites mistrust.

 

[drudge X]

BS - as my sig says - Racism is natural. It makes perfect evolutionary sense that we have evolved to prefer people that might be genetically related to us and distrust those who obviously are not related.

It's best for a company if all the workers are white and natural english speakers. THINK

That's not gonna happen. The most valuable company in the world, Nvidia, is run by an Asian guy who started his career as a dishwasher at Denny's. All four major semiconductor companies in the world are run by Asians, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, and Broadcom.

 

[JoeB131]

BS - as my sig says - Racism is natural. It makes perfect evolutionary sense that we have evolved to prefer people that might be genetically related to us and distrust those who obviously are not related.

It's best for a company if all the workers are white and natural english speakers. THINK

While I respect that you are honest about your racism, (unlike most of the other racists here), racism isn't a very good strategy. Quite the contrary, when a population becomes to insular, it declines. That's why you see so many problem with purebred dogs, for instance. Eventually, they just all get inbred.

Only a very small fraction of people can design and build semiconductors. At least diversity in sports, nobody will die if a short Asian lesbian woman misses the basket. There's zero margin of error in building semiconductors but that didn't stop Democrats from pushing DEI.

DEI doesn't require you to hire people who are unqualified for the job.

Also, most semiconductors are built by robots. The robots are coming for all our jobs, eventually.

 

[drudge X]

DEI doesn't require you to hire people who are unqualified for the job.

Also, most semiconductors are built by robots. The robots are coming for all our jobs, eventually.

Not required but companies do it anyway to make their annual report look good and of course, a better chance to win government contracts.

It’s the Democrats glaring hypocrisy that bothers me. How can they support DEI in the medical fields and flying a jumbo jet but when it comes to sports, only the best can make the roster. Even the most committed Trump hating leftists would admit that if they required open heart surgery, they don’t want a DEI candidate holding the scalpel.

 

[JoeB131]

Not required but companies do it anyway to make their annual report look good and of course, a better chance to win government contracts.

Do they, though? I've worked with far more unqualified white Nepo-Babies than unqualified DEI hires. The Boss's son, the Boss's drinking Buddy, the Boss's side piece. These people are far worse to work with DEI hires, because they come in with no qualifications AND a sense of entitlement.

It’s the Democrats glaring hypocrisy that bothers me. How can they support DEI in the medical fields and flying a jumbo jet but when it comes to sports, only the best can make the roster. Even the most committed Trump hating leftists would admit that if they required open heart surgery, they don’t want a DEI candidate holding the scalpel.

Once again, Professional Sports aren't a good analogy. Most people of any race are never going to be professional athletes, who are pretty much mutants outside the human norm.

Nobody is going to hire an unqualified surgeon or an unqualified pilot. This is one of your white privilege fantasies that equality equals oppression.

 

[SweetTea]

I am not sure why you think your average workplace or even the military is comparable to a sports team, something only a fraction of a percent would ever qualify for.

Sports teams are big business.

The reality is, a diverse workplace is usually a better one because you are less likely to have groupthink. People bringing different experiences and different perspectives is always a good thing.

Racial and/or gender diversity has nothing to do with an engineer designing a bridge.

Back to the sports analogy, most NFL teams are predominately black. Do you really believe that a team full of all-stars that happened to be all black would be less productive due to some “groupthink” problem?