People receiving welfare are complaining they now cannot buy candy and soda with tax money they are given

[Nostra]

Then let's ban those things for everyone, not just the poor.

The thing is, you wingnuts lost your minds when Bloomberg tried to ban Big Gulps.

You lost your minds when Michelle Obama tried to put more veggies in the School Lunch program.

So it seems this is less about "concern trolling" about healthy eating and more "Let's find a new way to shame poor people!"

Nothing is banned, stupid. You fat, lazy leaches can still woof down your Twinkies all you want.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I look at it this way.
The poor learn to exploit the welfare system
The wealthy learn to exploit the tax and subsidies system

But when the rich people do it, it’s legal, when the work-abled poor do it, it’s not.

Again, you all keep talking about “rich people” but those people aren’t your problem. Your beef is with wealth corporations, how they pay lower taxes and how they pay people.

The only difference is the wealthy have an army of lawyers and accountants to help them exploit the system.

All legal.

I’ve said it before, you all had an opportunity to pass all the gun legislation and wealth taxes you want under a brief window with Obama, they balked.

“Evil rich people” are the boogeyman that the left want to call the problem, but don’t really want to solve. They themselves live their money.

If you want to help the TRULY needy people, I say go for it, but let’s clean up the abuse in the system too

 

[rightwinger]

Again, you all keep talking about “rich people” but those people aren’t your problem. Your beef is with wealth corporations, how they pay lower taxes and how they pay people

The Golden Rule……He who has the Gold, makes the rules

The wealthy write the tax code and have an army of lawyers and accountants to stretch it to their benefit

 

[rightwinger]

If you want to help the TRULY needy people, I say go for it, but let’s clean up the abuse

The abuses of the wealthy has a much deeper impact on our society than the abuses of the poor

 

[ThisIsMe]

The Golden Rule……He who has the Gold, makes the rules

The wealthy write the tax code and have an army of lawyers and accountants to stretch it to their benefit

Set the tax rate to where everyone pays the same rate, remove loopholes. Or, do a flat tax, or a fair tax. Tax the rich out of the equation.

You don’t really want fairness, you want the rich to be taxed at a higher rate, that’s not fair. So let’s just do a flat tax, or use the fair tax, eliminate the IRS and make it to where the rich have no pull.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The abuses of the wealthy has a much deeper impact on our society than the abuses of the poor

What abuses? The wealthy are simply playing by the rules that are given to them. If they are doing anything illegal, I expect the system to punish them. Beyond that, they are working the system that was given to them by BOTH republicans and democrats.

If you want a wealth tax, next time you all have a filibuster proof majority, like under Obama, get on it.

 

[rightwinger]

Set the tax rate to where everyone pays the same rate, remove loopholes. Or, do a flat tax, or a fair tax. Tax the rich out of the equation.

You don’t really want fairness, you want the rich to be taxed at a higher rate, that’s not fair. So let’s just do a flat tax, or use the fair tax, eliminate the IRS and make it to where the rich have no pull.

Can you point to any flat rate plan where the working poor don’t end up paying more and the wealthy paying less?

Making the wealthy pay at a higher rate is fair…..that is where the money is

 

[ThisIsMe]

Can you point to any flat rate plan where the working poor don’t end up paying more and the wealthy paying less?

Making the wealthy pay at a higher rate is fair…..that is where the money is

So should the rich get more representation from the government for their higher tax rate?

 

[struth]

Can you point to any flat rate plan where the working poor don’t end up paying more and the wealthy paying less?

Making the wealthy pay at a higher rate is fair…..that is where the money is

How would it be possible they pay more if they all pay the same rate?

If I make 100 dollars, and the tax rate is 5 percent, I pay five dollars

If I make 1000 dollars and the rate is five percent I pay 50

How is the you making 100 paying more? Ever

 

[HikerGuy83]

The fed govt has no authority to distribute tax payer funds to individuals anyway.

While I might disagree.....I wish it were true.

 

[pknopp]

What abuses? The wealthy are simply playing by the rules that are given to them. If they are doing anything illegal, I expect the system to punish them. Beyond that, they are working the system that was given to them by BOTH republicans and democrats.

If you want a wealth tax, next time you all have a filibuster proof majority, like under Obama, get on it.

Senator Jim Justice is being sued for collecting sales taxes and then not remitting them to the state.

The state is constantly having to file leins and suits to get the money he owes.

For a small guy that would be fraud and he would likely go to prison.

That is clearly an abuse.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You guys really hyper-fixate on minor trigger-issues sometimes

 

[ThisIsMe]

Senator Jim Justice is being sued for collecting sales taxes and then not remitting them to the state.

The state is constantly having to file leins and suits to get the money he owes.

For a small guy that would be fraud and he would likely go to prison.

That is clearly an abuse.

And I clearly stated, anyone breaking the laws should be punished

 

[struth]

Senator Jim Justice is being sued for collecting sales taxes and then not remitting them to the state.

The state is constantly having to file leins and suits to get the money he owes.

For a small guy that would be fraud and he would likely go to prison.

That is clearly an abuse.

If Justice were a Dem he would have a donor pay the back taxes like the Xiden family got for Hunter

Then he’d get a pardon

Instead Justice actually had to settle his back taxes himself and pay

 

[pknopp]

If Justice were a Dem he would have a donor pay the back taxes like the Xiden family got for Hunter

Then he’d get a pardon

Instead Justice actually had to settle his back taxes himself and pay

Here is the difference. I condemned the corruption concerning Hunter.

You cant do that.

Like Hunter, Justice avoids prison like others would face.

But sadly, cults will cult.

 

[pknopp]

If Justice were a Dem he would have a donor pay the back taxes like the Xiden family got for Hunter

Then he’d get a pardon

Instead Justice actually had to settle his back taxes himself and pay

Here is the difference. I condemned the corruption concerning Hunter.

You cant do that.

Like Hunter, Justice avoids prison like others would face.

But sadly, cults will cult.

 

[struth]

Here is the difference. I condemned the corruption concerning Hunter.

You cant do that.

Like Hunter, Justice avoids prison like others would face.

But sadly, cults will cult.

No I very much condemned the corruption from Hunter and the Biden family

Why should condemn Justice for settling his back taxes?

 

[rightwinger]

How would it be possible they pay more if they all pay the same rate?

If I make 100 dollars, and the tax rate is 5 percent, I pay five dollars

If I make 1000 dollars and the rate is five percent I pay 50

How is the you making 100 paying more? Ever

You are now taxing people who were exempt from paying taxes under the current system
Working people who struggle to pay the rent, heat their homes in the winter, feed their children……why not tax them more?

But hey, let’s cut the tax rate of the wealthy from 37 percent down to 15
Allow them to buy a bigger yacht and polo pony

 

[struth]

You are now taxing people who were exempt from paying taxes under the current system
Working people who struggle to pay the rent, heat their homes in the winter, feed their children……why not tax them more?

But hey, let’s cut the tax rate of the wealthy from 37 percent down to 15
Allow them to buy a bigger yacht and polo pony

I was just using numbers to make it simple for you.

You however knew that and deflected because you can’t support your claim that the poor would pay more under a flat tax

 

[rightwinger]

I was just using numbers to make it simple for you.

You however knew that and deflected because you can’t support your claim that the poor would pay more under a flat tax

I am just pointing out the obvious to you

Any flat tax will result in higher taxes for the working poor and less for the wealthy

Prove me wrong