Pelosi Says She Will Impeach President Trump If He Doesn’t Resign “Immediately”

[U2Edge]

The reason to impeach him now is to disqualify him from ever holding elected office again! Many Republicans might find this attractive as it will open up the field for a lot of people in 2024 instead of having Trump dominate everything and be the nominee again.

Republicans also won't have their previous excuses available. Such as Susan Collins saying that Trump learned his lesson. And the majority saying that congress shouldn't judge the President, but instead that judgement should be left to the people by the upcoming election.

Well the election is over, and the people voted by 81 to 74 to remote the president from office.

So why shouldn't the senate follow the will of the people.

Good points! Perhaps there will be 25 Republicans in the Senate that will vote to convict!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

 

[U2Edge]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

Come on Admiral, what do you think?

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)

In the link you'll find that Trump can indeed be impeached after his time in office.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Look at Mitt Romney! Doing just fine!

Put it this way, how many of those 50 Republican Senators don't want TRUMP to be the nominee in 2024? I bet there are more than 17 that don't want Trump to be the nominee and this is a way to insure that he will never be the nominee in 2024 or any time after.

Again, Trump grew his base by millions. Polls show nearly 40% thought the election was stolen. Now if you were a Republican Senator, would you stab your voters President in the back and expect them not to remember you in your next primaries? And let me tell you something else: a majority of voters hate impeachment. They hated it with Clinton, and they hated it with Trump. A President has never been convicted by the Senate before. Imagine the public outrage if they ever do.

The Senate didn't convict the President the last phony impeachment, and the Democrats got two seats. The Democrat House did impeach Trump and lost a lot of seats.

 

[U2Edge]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Great. Get Trump out of office ASAP. He's unfit for the job and is a danger to America.

Problem is, that's gonna happen unless he resigns. I am completely against this. It's a waste of time. The House will vote along party lines. You may get a few Republicans to vote with you but it won't be many. You need 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove. Unlike the House whose procedures can be sped along, there is due process in the Senate, where there is NO Republican that will want to go down this road again. I really wish progressives could see the bigger picture here. You won. Trump handed you the victory. You have the House Republicans cucked for the moment running for cover. You have Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley who have just had their NUTS handed to them! You take back control of the Senate shortly. Trump is gone in 12 days. The Republicans just got done pissing away every gift they got on November 3rd. You have your boot on their throat. And you're poised to not only let them up, but give them new life in the process.

Trump is gone in 12 days. He's done. He ain't coming back. Wednesday was a sickening day. But the end result is that you just had a bunch of MAGA inbreds not only blow up Trump's future, but kneecap the Republican party. Stupid to risk giving that all back to make a point when it has NO chance of removing him from office. Pence and what's left of the cabinet will NOT invoke the 25th. Let it go. Focus on your upcoming agenda. Let the Republicans eat each other and run from Trump screaming like scalded dogs.

That's a great argument IF you trust that Trump hasn't got more mischief in mind. 12 days is plenty of time. Twitter just permabanned him, so it may slow him down a little, or it may make him so angry that he explodes.

The other thing is, he seems to have dreams of running again and holding on to his base, thereby continuing to control the Democratic party. This was one of his last tweets today:
"The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!"


Twitter felt that could keep his revolutionaries stirred up, and then he tweeted very simply that he would not be attending the Inauguration. That gives the green light to his army to plan another rush there, Twitter suspected.
So I think it's a toss up.

Donald Trump may be soon disqualified from ever holding elected office again.

Bullshit! There is simply not enough time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

They were wrong, as proven by the Senate vote to acquit. What would they have done to him, rolled the paper it was written on and poked him in the eye?

 

[U2Edge]

Great. Get Trump out of office ASAP. He's unfit for the job and is a danger to America.

Problem is, that's gonna happen unless he resigns. I am completely against this. It's a waste of time. The House will vote along party lines. You may get a few Republicans to vote with you but it won't be many. You need 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove. Unlike the House whose procedures can be sped along, there is due process in the Senate, where there is NO Republican that will want to go down this road again. I really wish progressives could see the bigger picture here. You won. Trump handed you the victory. You have the House Republicans cucked for the moment running for cover. You have Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley who have just had their NUTS handed to them! You take back control of the Senate shortly. Trump is gone in 12 days. The Republicans just got done pissing away every gift they got on November 3rd. You have your boot on their throat. And you're poised to not only let them up, but give them new life in the process.

Trump is gone in 12 days. He's done. He ain't coming back. Wednesday was a sickening day. But the end result is that you just had a bunch of MAGA inbreds not only blow up Trump's future, but kneecap the Republican party. Stupid to risk giving that all back to make a point when it has NO chance of removing him from office. Pence and what's left of the cabinet will NOT invoke the 25th. Let it go. Focus on your upcoming agenda. Let the Republicans eat each other and run from Trump screaming like scalded dogs.

That's a great argument IF you trust that Trump hasn't got more mischief in mind. 12 days is plenty of time. Twitter just permabanned him, so it may slow him down a little, or it may make him so angry that he explodes.

The other thing is, he seems to have dreams of running again and holding on to his base, thereby continuing to control the Democratic party. This was one of his last tweets today:
"The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!"


Twitter felt that could keep his revolutionaries stirred up, and then he tweeted very simply that he would not be attending the Inauguration. That gives the green light to his army to plan another rush there, Twitter suspected.
So I think it's a toss up.

Donald Trump may be soon disqualified from ever holding elected office again.

Bullshit! There is simply not enough time.

Time does not matter. You can impeach and convict someone after the time in office has ended. Makes sense to. If your guilty of high crimes, your still guilty of them even if you have left office.

 

[U2Edge]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

They were wrong, as proven by the Senate vote to acquit. What would they have done to him, rolled the paper it was written on and poked him in the eye?

The new articles of impeachment don't involve anything from the first impeachment. This is a new high crime. I think many Republicans in the Senate will vote to convict so they can then vote to disqualify Trump from ever running from President again. This will open up the field from many other Republicans.

Certainly, there are at least 17 Republican Senators that do not want to Donald Trump be the nominee in 2024! This is the best way to insure that he is never the nominee again.

 

[22lcidw]

Great. Get Trump out of office ASAP. He's unfit for the job and is a danger to America.

Problem is, that's gonna happen unless he resigns. I am completely against this. It's a waste of time. The House will vote along party lines. You may get a few Republicans to vote with you but it won't be many. You need 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove. Unlike the House whose procedures can be sped along, there is due process in the Senate, where there is NO Republican that will want to go down this road again. I really wish progressives could see the bigger picture here. You won. Trump handed you the victory. You have the House Republicans cucked for the moment running for cover. You have Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley who have just had their NUTS handed to them! You take back control of the Senate shortly. Trump is gone in 12 days. The Republicans just got done pissing away every gift they got on November 3rd. You have your boot on their throat. And you're poised to not only let them up, but give them new life in the process.

Trump is gone in 12 days. He's done. He ain't coming back. Wednesday was a sickening day. But the end result is that you just had a bunch of MAGA inbreds not only blow up Trump's future, but kneecap the Republican party. Stupid to risk giving that all back to make a point when it has NO chance of removing him from office. Pence and what's left of the cabinet will NOT invoke the 25th. Let it go. Focus on your upcoming agenda. Let the Republicans eat each other and run from Trump screaming like scalded dogs.

That's a great argument IF you trust that Trump hasn't got more mischief in mind. 12 days is plenty of time. Twitter just permabanned him, so it may slow him down a little, or it may make him so angry that he explodes.

The other thing is, he seems to have dreams of running again and holding on to his base, thereby continuing to control the Democratic party. This was one of his last tweets today:
"The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!"


Twitter felt that could keep his revolutionaries stirred up, and then he tweeted very simply that he would not be attending the Inauguration. That gives the green light to his army to plan another rush there, Twitter suspected.
So I think it's a toss up.

Donald Trump may be soon disqualified from ever holding elected office again.

Bullshit! There is simply not enough time.

Time does not matter. You can impeach and convict someone after the time in office has ended. Makes sense to. If your guilty of high crimes, your still guilty of them even if you have left office.

That place is a sewer. You actually believe that those politicians are on the up and up!

 

[meaner gene]

Their simple one time tax cuts was doomed to fail.

The tax cuts are part of what gave us the best economy in nearly 50 years. Reagan said it best "If you want more of something, subsidize it. If you want less of something, tax it."

They seem to be taxing your intelligence, since the tax cuts didn't produce Reagans economy. Uncontrolled government spending, and tripling the national debt, did it.
When George H.W. Bush turned off the wild spending, the economy stalled.

 

[U2Edge]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

They were wrong, as proven by the Senate vote to acquit. What would they have done to him, rolled the paper it was written on and poked him in the eye?

That does not prove they were wrong to impeach and attempt to convict someone who was out of office. It only means the Senate did not convict of them crime they were accused of.

 

[U2Edge]

Great. Get Trump out of office ASAP. He's unfit for the job and is a danger to America.

Problem is, that's gonna happen unless he resigns. I am completely against this. It's a waste of time. The House will vote along party lines. You may get a few Republicans to vote with you but it won't be many. You need 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove. Unlike the House whose procedures can be sped along, there is due process in the Senate, where there is NO Republican that will want to go down this road again. I really wish progressives could see the bigger picture here. You won. Trump handed you the victory. You have the House Republicans cucked for the moment running for cover. You have Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Josh Hawley who have just had their NUTS handed to them! You take back control of the Senate shortly. Trump is gone in 12 days. The Republicans just got done pissing away every gift they got on November 3rd. You have your boot on their throat. And you're poised to not only let them up, but give them new life in the process.

Trump is gone in 12 days. He's done. He ain't coming back. Wednesday was a sickening day. But the end result is that you just had a bunch of MAGA inbreds not only blow up Trump's future, but kneecap the Republican party. Stupid to risk giving that all back to make a point when it has NO chance of removing him from office. Pence and what's left of the cabinet will NOT invoke the 25th. Let it go. Focus on your upcoming agenda. Let the Republicans eat each other and run from Trump screaming like scalded dogs.

That's a great argument IF you trust that Trump hasn't got more mischief in mind. 12 days is plenty of time. Twitter just permabanned him, so it may slow him down a little, or it may make him so angry that he explodes.

The other thing is, he seems to have dreams of running again and holding on to his base, thereby continuing to control the Democratic party. This was one of his last tweets today:
"The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!"


Twitter felt that could keep his revolutionaries stirred up, and then he tweeted very simply that he would not be attending the Inauguration. That gives the green light to his army to plan another rush there, Twitter suspected.
So I think it's a toss up.

Donald Trump may be soon disqualified from ever holding elected office again.

Bullshit! There is simply not enough time.

Time does not matter. You can impeach and convict someone after the time in office has ended. Makes sense to. If your guilty of high crimes, your still guilty of them even if you have left office.

That place is a sewer. You actually believe that those politicians are on the up and up!

Compared to Donald Trump, many of them are saints.

 

[Pogo]

Impeachment would be a political mistake which my Dems specialize in. Everyone is against Trump now. Impeach him and a spark of support kicks back up and the right is regalvanized . Keep them on the defensive.

That doesn't make sense at all.

You're saying let him get away with sending goons to overthrow the Congress. Guess what that means for future goons.

I think you make a good point but the time to impeach him was months ago. Now it’s impractical. I say move on, learn from it, and be quick on the trigger the next time. This is like shooting a wolf that ate so many chickens he’s about to die. Waste of a bullet.

The reason to impeach him now is to disqualify him from ever holding elected office again! Many Republicans might find this attractive as it will open up the field for a lot of people in 2024 instead of having Trump dominate everything and be the nominee again.

That may be a side benefit but after this week, including the shakedown call to Georgia, Rump has no political future anyway. Famous last words maybe but I can't see the Republican Party letting him anywhere near the driver's seat, or even in the car, after the damage he's done to it.

Of course, they should have thought of that five years ago, they had to learn the hard way.

Even Jimmy Carter got pretty much shut out of his party after losing re-election but for the occasional convention speech, and he didn't incite a riot or lose both the House and Senate for them.

 

[meaner gene]

It also means when some politician throws out some pie in the sky, utter bullshit as a reason to vote for him, you would buy it, since you don't know what the limits of what's legal for him to actually accomplish.

Presidential candidates often campaign "I'm going to this, and I'm going to do that" just like Trump and every other candidate. It doesn't mean they could actually do it, it means that's what they would do if they had the ability.

And often they claim they can do something that is not possible under law. Knowing they're throwing out bullshit is a reason not to vote for them. But only if you know enough to figure out if they can actually do what they are selling.

 

[Pogo]

Impeachment would be a political mistake which my Dems specialize in. Everyone is against Trump now. Impeach him and a spark of support kicks back up and the right is regalvanized . Keep them on the defensive.

That doesn't make sense at all.

You're saying let him get away with sending goons to overthrow the Congress. Guess what that means for future goons.

I think you make a good point but the time to impeach him was months ago. Now it’s impractical. I say move on, learn from it, and be quick on the trigger the next time. This is like shooting a wolf that ate so many chickens he’s about to die. Waste of a bullet.

If it's a good point why did you just evade it?

Sending a mob to overthrow the government deserves response --- true or false?

Deserves? Sure. Politically the most shrewd move? No. I think the Dems need to be more calculating. They lose incessantly to more shrewd Republicans. Trump fortunately wasn’t calculating.

"Politically shrewd" doesn't even enter into it. If we ENABLE rioting to take over the Capitol, then we are saying "you can do this without consequences". THAT is the issue here: response, or lack thereof. "Politically" is irrelevant.

 

[Pogo]

You're actually planning to impeach before the official EVEN TAKES OFFICE, let alone commits any act.

You've completely surrendered all claims to objectivity here. Buh bye.

Your party drew first blood; impeaching a President with no impeachable offense or crime committed. I think the Republicans should continue that new precedent with Biden. And if the commies impeach him again, make sure we do the same to Biden or Harris, whoever is the President once we take the House.

Once AGAIN for the illiterate: There is no such thing as "my party". I don't have one, never did, and don't see any point in it. START THERE and quit painting your own fantasy world because you can't deal with the real.

Y'all slavish dichotomists give me the urge to regurge. You actually sit there and believe the entire universe is made up of "Democrats and Republicans". What the **** is wrong with y'all?? FYI there are more of my non-party than there are of EITHER of yours.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

Come on Admiral, what do you think?

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)

In the link you'll find that Trump can indeed be impeached after his time in office.

It appears that the House and Senate can prevent a President from ever being able to hold elected office in the U.S. government again if they see that person as a threat to the country because of their actions. If the House and Senate pass it, it becomes law. I doubt they would have it in the articles of impeachment if it was not constitutional.

They can't prevent anything unless Trump was committed of a crime while in office. You need 2/3 of the Senate for that during an impeachment.

Impeaching Trump now could bar him from public office in the future.

While it may seem pointless to impeach a president just as he is about to leave office, there could be real consequences for Mr. Trump beyond the stain on his record. If he were convicted, the Senate could vote to bar him from ever holding office again. Following a conviction, the Constitution says the Senate can consider “disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

Only a simple majority of senators would have to agree to successfully disqualify Mr. Trump, who is contemplating another run for president in 2024, an appealing prospect not just to Democrats but to many Republicans who are eyeing their own runs.

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)



More importantly, the house can wait until the new Senators are seated after Biden is inaugurated to start the trail against Trump in the Senate. They need just 17 Republicans out of 50 to vote with them to convict Trump. Then after that, they just need a simple majority in the House and Senate to disqualify Trump from ever being able to hold elected office in the federal government ever again!

Hey moron, you cannot impeach someone who is no longer in office. Must you always prove what a dipshit you are?

That is incorrect. Read the following:



Trump can still be impeached as an ex-president.

History gives little guide on the question of whether a president can be impeached once he leaves office, and House lawyers were racing to understand the legal and constitutional issues.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

Michael J. Gerhardt, a constitutional scholar at the University of North Carolina who testified in the last impeachment proceedings, wrote on Friday that he saw no reason Congress could not proceed.

“It would make no sense for former officials, or ones who step down just in time, to escape that remedial mechanism,” he wrote. “It should accordingly go without saying that if an impeachment begins when an individual is in office, the process may surely continue after they resign or otherwise depart.”

How Congress Could Impeach Trump Before His Term Ends (msn.com)


So what do you think Admiral? Wouldn't that be AWESOME if Trump was disqualified from ever holding elected office again?

You found ONE person who claims to be a Constitutional Scholar that agree with your idiocy. Remember Obama was a Constitutional Scholar who was overruled by SCOTUS more that any President in history. That just proves you can be a Constitutional Scholar and a complete moron.


Article II, Section 4 provides:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.[2]

How can you remove someone from office if they are no longer President? I deal in facts. You deal in libtard fantasies.

There is precedent for doing so in the case of other high government officers. In 1876, the House impeached President Ulysses S. Grant’s war secretary for graft, even after he resigned from his post. The Senate at the time considered whether it still had jurisdiction to hear the case of a former official, and determined that it did. Ultimately, the secretary was acquitted.

They were wrong, as proven by the Senate vote to acquit. What would they have done to him, rolled the paper it was written on and poked him in the eye?

That does not prove they were wrong to impeach and attempt to convict someone who was out of office. It only means the Senate did not convict of them crime they were accused of.

A person who is no longer in office can be prosecuted by the DOJ. They cannot be impeached. It is a simple fact but so complicated that you are and MSN's scholar cannot grasp the concept because you are both morons.

 

[meaner gene]

Again, Trump grew his base by millions. Polls show nearly 40% thought the election was stolen.

That could be the second question on a voting qualification quiz.

1) Who had the largest inaugural attendance in history?
2) Was there massive voter fraud in the 2020 election?

 

[Circe]

There is no way to rationally do that...every local issue would have to have a test around it. People care a lot about some things and are knowledgeable but don’t care at all about other things.

I understand the frustration but there is no way do it with abuse and disenfranchisement.

There always was a way to do it before: until very recently, late in the last century, the 20th. All democracies including the very first one 500 to 400 BC Athens only allowed "stakeholders" to vote, which usually meant property owners. Same with Britain until recently, same with France even during most of the Revolution. Even during the worst of the Revolution, when they pretended to revere the Mob --- they didn't let them vote. Not that it mattered much; the Mob just regularly killed everybody they didn't like, by the hundreds.

I agree with a property requirement. All democracies crash exactly as this one is doing: by letting poorer and poorer and poorer people vote and vote other people's money into their pockets. Now the Dems want felons to vote, the poorest people to vote, homeless, retarded, illegals, anyone who will increase their power in the House and Senate. But this is exactly what the Gracchi brothers promoted in Rome --- and soon the Roman Republic fell.