- Moderator
- #241
Trump rattles easily. He gets completely unhinged on Twitter, obsessing over slights.Obama started it, and Trump isn't Obama so get used to a leader that don't rattle so easily.Nothing is ever going to stop partisans from attacking eachother. I’m not saying that playing nice will do that. But at least past presidents could build a coalition of members from both parties and work together to get stuff done. Trumps method is dividing our country in worse ways than I’ve ever seen. That’s why it’s near impossible to get anything significant done. Aside from that it’s just plain embarrassing to see on the world stage.i could rattle off a dozen things Trump has done to disrespect Pelosi and the house of Congress but I’m not interested in whataboutisms. Comparing bad behavior doesn’t justify bad behavior... that’s my point. Something needs to break the cycle. A grown up and a real leader is the only person that can do it. It’s very obvious that Trump is not that kind of person. Neither is Pelsoi. Difference is she is head of the Dems and Trump is head of this country.When Trump stands behind Pelosi and tears up her speech...you let me know.If Pelosi is the child acting out in the restaurant, yelling and throwing food, then Trump is the parent that yells louder and throws more food back at the child. That’s my point. He is the president. He doesn’t act like a responsible parent, he acts like a more bratty child. And y’all cheer him on. It’s a sad state we are devolving toThis is were we disagree. He is the president of the United States. Not the president of the Republicans or the president of just those who elected him. The “you fuck with him he’ll fuck with you” argument is exactly why he acts like a child and not a leader.Why on earth? Easy, because he is the president and she is the head of a major political party and speaker of the house. That’s why. You grow the fuck up and act like a leader. The old “she did it first so I can do it now” Line expired in grade school. You obviously didn’t get the memo
She's also the leader of the major political party which has been spewing lies about him for years, which has wasted untold millions of taxpayer dollars investigating things which never happened, and which tried to remove him from office over a fucking phone call.
He IS acting like a leader. Those who elected him (and I'm guessing you're not one of them) are finally happy to have a leader who doesn't take any bullshit and who couldn't be pretentious if he tried. You fuck with him, he'll fuck with you. That's how real life works. Pelosi now has a better understanding of what she can expect with the time she has left as SOTH while Trump is President.
You reap what you sow, and Pelosi has all but guaranteed that she'll be on the outside of all the good things that happen from here on out. She deserves to be left out in the cold.
Her political capital has been spent...
This is where you and I disagree.
When the kids act up at the restaurant, you don't take them back until they prove they can handle it. The parents go out and leave the children with the babysitter.
Pelosi's childish stunt at the state of the union proved she isn't ready to be allowed at the adult table. When she proves she's a grownup, maybe they'll take her to the restaurant again...at 2:30 in the afternoon...at a very small place that isn't too busy.
Being mean on twitter ain't disrepecting the office of the president ofthe united states on national tv. Get your head out of your ass man and face reality.
Pelosi isn't invited because she can't be trusted. That's the fact.
What you want to see is a weak leader like the Republicans in the past. Let me ask, when past Republican Presidents didn't respond, how much good did that do them? None. Did it stop the lefts criticisms and insults of the Republican President? No it didn't. Were they any more respected? No they weren't.
We all know that the only way to stop a bully is to hit him back. We have a President that's doing it now, and you hate it.