iceberg
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again - i was "born and raised" on "old school" media. newspapers, minor in college, college paper, even on my own website.fair enough. obama did carry himself far better than trump. however, i don't trust obama simply because of how he treated the press. BEFORE GOING BUT TRUMP, keep this on obama. i hated how he used the press to manipulate current events.Oops realized we may have misunderstood each other, no, those actions are a lack of class. When I referred to class, it was how Obama handled intense and personal attacks and how Trump does.This to me is just being overly defensive to your side.Again, prod the bull, and get the horns. Just shows how bad the Democrats have been to him.She's awesome! Trump is the most bigly vicious, nasty person.... no one in the existing world, is more vicious and nastier or more vindictive and vengeful than him, 24/7, 365 days a year....imo....That’s the Class Act President we have... our government is being run by a bunch of emotional children. WTF is going on?!
Oh please, she has earned what she gets. Pelosi is a vicious, nasty person.
sure, she was wrong in showing her emotions and ripping his lying speech, but being wrong once in a while, makes her human....
being wrong and a dick ALL of the time, makes him, pure evil....! again, in my opinion...
No worse than the Republicans were to Obama. The difference in their responses is class.
No repub ever:
Acted up behind obama
Ripped up his speech
Had pens made to celebrate an attack on him
And the list goes on. Not defending Trump but calling the D actions "class"?
Please explain.
my minor in college was journalism. i've been doing it in some form most all of my life. the "media"has NOT been "journalism" for a long long time and they are now PR pieces for their favorite politicians. it sucks. i didn't like obama jacking with the media so no - i don't like trump doing it either.
obama was horrible to the media when they were negative to him. he just didn't do it out in the open. but he spied on them, and much worse than trump just being the asshole that he is.
I will agree that Obama started the ball rolling on limiting media's freedom and rights and set an unfortunate precedent. It's one of my few criticisms of him.
We love to deplore the media but they have a job to do whether we agree with them or not. If we don't like one of them - hell - there are hundreds if not thousands to choose from.
what the "media" is doing today is not news and it's not reporting. it's giving their fanbase whatever they want to hear and those who hate them ammo to say LOOK AT WHAT STUPID THING THEY SAID.
very few journalists anymore.
as for trump setting a new standard for low, no sense in trying to debate it as that is how you feel and i do understand it. agreement not necessary. however, the usual operations these days are "wow that's horrible...hold my beer" so it's only natural we keep letting this get crazy.
that's what happens when we say the other side deserves it for any given reason, even it we're doing the very same thing we're yelling at "the other side" for.
we're way beyond trump and it being any one person anymore. they're just the posterchild for both sides these days, our politicians.
the problem is us. we deserve the leaders we get and with the way we treat them, no one qualified will ever likely run.