Pelosi: I’m Satisfied with Biden’s Response. Reporter: Biden Hasn’t Responded

The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And your line, to which I was replying, was "Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??" Obviously, I was referring to your immediate post, and equally obviously, you don't understand context. But hey, if you want to live with the awful feeling that I accused you of something, go ahead.

Now, did you find that post in this thread where I supposedly said Biden hadn't said anything about the case? I mean, you'd hate to get it all mixed up and be LYING about it, right?
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And yet YOU did defend Biden by claiming trump did worse.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And your line, to which I was replying, was "Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??" Obviously, I was referring to your immediate post, and equally obviously, you don't understand context. But hey, if you want to live with the awful feeling that I accused you of something, go ahead.

Now, did you find that post in this thread where I supposedly said Biden hadn't said anything about the case? I mean, you'd hate to get it all mixed up and be LYING about it, right?

LOL

No worries, your accusations are harmless. Meanwhile, you falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump. And I wasn't talking about the previous post when I first pointed that out. I was pointing out that after I offered several reasons Reade's story doesn't hold water, you still falsely claimed I gave no reason other than to divert to Impeached Trump.

As far as you saying Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt, that's easy to produce....

As far as you saying Biden hadn't said anything about the case... When I went back to find that post in order to repost it here, I realized it was another poster who said that. That's my mistake and on me for which I apologize.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And yet YOU did defend Biden by claiming trump did worse.

^^^ Con can't read?

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Emphasis added to highlight a rightard's illiteracy.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And your line, to which I was replying, was "Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??" Obviously, I was referring to your immediate post, and equally obviously, you don't understand context. But hey, if you want to live with the awful feeling that I accused you of something, go ahead.

Now, did you find that post in this thread where I supposedly said Biden hadn't said anything about the case? I mean, you'd hate to get it all mixed up and be LYING about it, right?

LOL

No worries, your accusations are harmless. Meanwhile, you falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump. And I wasn't talking about the previous post when I first pointed that out. I was pointing out that after I offered several reasons Reade's story doesn't hold water, you still falsely claimed I gave no reason other than to divert to Impeached Trump.

As far as you saying Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt, that's easy to produce....

As far as you saying Biden hadn't said anything about the case... When I went back to find that post in order to repost it here, I realized it was another poster who said that. That's my mistake and on me for which I apologize.

I'm not going to argue finer points of verbage with you. If you feel that I falsely accused you, it was unintentional on my part, and yes you absolutely did list some defenses of Biden that did not involve Trump. We will see how this pans out, hopefully without too much childish acrimony on either side, but I fear that's too much to hope for. I do enjoy conversing with adults, BTW. Cudos.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And yet YOU did defend Biden by claiming trump did worse.

^^^ Con can't read?

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.
But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Emphasis added to highlight a rightard's illiteracy.

Biden said all women making accusations of sexual assault must be believed.
End of Game.
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And yet YOU did defend Biden by claiming trump did worse.

^^^ Con can't read?

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.
But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Emphasis added to highlight a rightard's illiteracy.

Biden said all women making accusations of sexual assault must be believed.
End of Game.

If you truly more retarded than I thought if you really believe this is the "end of game."
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

"On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you"

LOLOLOL

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? No, lying con, you said the specific "you."

hadit said:
And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me.

Emphasis added to highlight your lie -- unless you claim my specific posts were the general "you" that keep making your point. :lmao:

And yet YOU did defend Biden by claiming trump did worse.

^^^ Con can't read?

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.
But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Emphasis added to highlight a rightard's illiteracy.

Biden said all women making accusations of sexual assault must be believed.
End of Game.

So you believe that woman and all 25 women who accused Trump also? I believe that it was a political statement
from both of 'em. Trump called them liars, so I guess he believes that all women are liars? If Biden made that statement, maybe he is innocent because making a statement knowing that it might come back and bite him in the
ass...... You disagree I am sure, but if the situation was reversed you would have a different take, yes?
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

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Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

You miss the point, which is that you and your ilk are jumping on this like Grant took Richmond, and yet you dismissed the charges against Trump as rubbish because Trump called 25 women "liars".
 
The Left lie lie lie.


Biden said that nothing happened with that woman, just as Trump said that nothing happened with those 25 women.
Are they both lying? 25 women.

Biden has said nothing about the accusations because he knows the jig is up.

Biden's silence is an admission of GUILT! Fox News is having a field day with his silence to the point the liberal media are now starting to ask Dems questions. Pelosi was asked today and threw a conniption fit.


Trump News has no problem with a dozen or so women who have claimed that Trump sexually assaulted them. Apparently that is okay. Trump News is fake news.

But, but, but, TRUMP! Dogged determination to always at all cost shift the narrative to Trump rears its head once again. Clearly, the marching orders have gone out. Is it just too difficult to defend Biden on his own merits?

Not difficult, but unnecessary. We know that Trump is not guilty since he said they were all liars--all 25 of 'em.
On, he admitted to sexual impropriety and that doesn't matter to his followers either. So if Trump's stuff doesn't matter, why should Biden's stuff?

You're getting a little closer, but still not making the case for Biden on its own merits. If there's no need to defend Biden, why the shrieking about Trump every time someone criticizes him? If his groping doesn't matter, just say so and move on. As it is, every deflection onto Trump just solidifies Biden's image as a sexual predator, and that's not doing him any favors.

I am speaking about pundits. I want to know why trump followers are so determined. Let it go the way you let the Trump accusations go. If you are going to put so much emphasis on Biden, then do the same for Trump. There is no
way that proof will emerge after 30 years for either of them. One can be wrong, but 25? Nah.


Trump's accusers had their day in the spotlight. This is Biden's turn. Let his situation stand on its own. As it is, this insistence that Trump be brought into it merely reinforces his apparent guilt.

His apparent guilt? Really? It reinforces your desire to deflect from Trump's transgressions.

Nonsense. This thread isn't about Trump and his alleged transgressions. If you want to rant about that, start a thread on it and do so. This thread is about Biden and what he's accused of doing. If your defense of him can't stand on its own merits without constant reference to Trump, you might want to reconsider just how much defense you're actually providing vs how much you make it appear that you believe he's done what he's accused of doing and don't care as long as you can point at Trump.

LOLOL

Suuure, con, uh-huh. Let's ignore the 25 women accusing Impeached Trump of sexual assault. You know, just so we can talk about how you suddenly care about sexual assault.

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Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!". I mean, seriously, you can't just say, "Let's check into it and if no laws were broken, let the voters decide who will be the next president"? Or something like, "He might have done it, and we should hear her story and decide for ourselves if she's telling the truth, and if so, whether it merits kicking him to the curb or not". I think, though, that democrat faithful painted themselves into a corner with their absolutist position on Kavanaugh's accuser when they insisted that we had to believe her no matter what, and that he wasn't entitled to defend himself and that no-one was to criticize her in any way.

We don't know what happened in that hallway because none of us were there. At least let her story come out and see if it holds water. I don't think there's any need for the FBI to get involved, since it doesn't appear that a crime was committed that could result in criminal charges, but let's at least hear from her what happened, what she did afterwards, and whether anyone took steps to squash her story. We heard from Ford, decided her story wasn't credible and Kavanaugh was confirmed. We heard from Anita Hill, decided she wasn't credible, and Thomas was confirmed. We heard from Bubba's accusers, decided they were credible, but it wasn't enough to kick him out of office. In each case, we heard from the accuser and the accused was afforded the right to defend himself.

Why is it so hard for you guys to defend Biden? That's the main question I see after seeing the way you insist on jumping to Trump no matter what Biden may have done. It certainly seems that you can't defend him, and that's telling.

Here's an idea. If you think Trump's sexual peccadilloes are disqualifications for office, start threads on them and be consistent that Biden should be held to the same standard. And before you go off half-cocked claiming I'm saying Biden is guilty and should in essence face the firing squad, I'll save you some time looking by telling you that I haven't.

"Well, like I've been saying for some time now, it's obvious that Biden's defenders can't come up with anything more substantive than, "Oh, yeah, well Trump might have done some stuff, and since he want to yell about that, we don't want you to talk about Biden!"

Well that's not true at all. We could point out Reade has no evidence. We could point out she waited nearly 3 decades to make a case of this, despite Biden running numerous times for public office during that period. We could point out how her recall of events of that purported sexual assault changed.

But why bother with such pesky details when we can even easier remind the loony right that they ignored 25 accusations of sexual assault against Impeached Trump? And that's not counting the one who claims Impeached Trump raped her and a friend when they were 13 and 12.

Well, it certainly seems very true that Biden's defenders really can't come up with anything more substantive because they don't. The majority of their defense is always to yell about Trump.

If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. That's how a story gets vetted. If it's weak and there's no evidence that they were in that location at that time, like with Ford's accusation, then the story is weakened. If people she says were witnesses deny knowledge, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. If she can't remember how she got to the location or how she returned home, like with Ford's accusation, the story is weakened. And on it goes. If, however, all you ever do is shriek "Something about TRUMP!!!" when someone accuses Biden about something, you're not really doing Biden any favors, because you're not pointing out weaknesses in the accusations or evidence that Biden is innocent.

Let's put it this way, would you rather Biden be seen as innocent of the charges laid against him or probably guilty but given a pass because somebody else might have done something?

"If you want to cast doubt on Reade's story, do it. "

Umm, I already did it.

But I do like how you play the Ford card while complaining of others playing the Impeached Trump card.

:abgg2q.jpg:

Well, if you've already done everything you can to defend Biden, start a thread complaining about Trump. Of course, it'd be lost in the plethora of other identical threads all complaining about him, but hey.

Note that I haven't said that Ford's epic failure in any way excuses someone else. Bit of a difference there, you know. Feel free to show where I did if you think different.

Who needs another thread to highlight rightard hypocrisy?

And yes, Biden said something about the accusation levied against him. He said it's not true.

Who needs another deflection from Biden to Trump, since that's all that Biden's defense seems to be? So, Biden finally denied it when someone finally told him he was just making it worse by remaining silent. What did you expect him to say, that he was guilty? This is still the first round. She accuses, he denies, his supporters trot out reasons why he's innocent. Oh, wait, they're not. They're yelling about Trump instead. Not helping him very much.

LOLOL

Now you're bitching because Biden borrowed Impeached Trump's line he used on no less than 25 different women??

:lmao:

At any rate ... again ... that's not Biden's only defense as I listed several earlier.

What line was that, "I didn't do it"? Hardly a trademarked line, don't you think? And again you can't defend Biden without diverting to Trump. You keep making my point for me. Basically, the thrust of your posts have been that you believe Biden's guilt or innocence is irrelevant because Trump. Not a strong defense.

You just can't stop lying, can ya, con? I already defended Biden without Impeached Trump. It's not my problem you struggle with English.

My point stands, very few are willing to even try defending Biden without invoking Trump. It's as if you all have fax machines in the basement, spitting out talking points that you all must post or you'll get a "visit". Let's see if you can continue on this thread without invoking Trump to excuse Biden. Heck, we don't even know for sure he's done anything wrong yet, and y'all are jumping around like your pants are on fire and your hair's a-catchin'.

LOL

If your point was standing, you wouldn't have to keep lying.

You falsely claimed I gave no reasons other than pointing out Impeached Trump has been accused by 25 more women than Biden -- even though I listed some reasons which don't involve Impeached Trump.

You falsely claimed Biden didn't deny the allegation, a position you ridiculously described as a tacit admission of guilt -- but when shown he did deny it, you tried framing his dial as though he could say nothing else.

Again... there are valid reasons to dismiss Reade's claims as I mentioned earlier. That doesn't dissolve Impeached Trump being accused of the same by at least 25 women and the rights' approach to that is basically, "nuh-uh." Now you're throwing hissy fits because the left is being equally dismissive.

On the contrary, I said the general "you", not the specific "you" could not seem to come up with any defense of Biden other than to squeal about Trump, but if you want to count yourself in that group go ahead. I don't care enough about you to bother checking everything you've written, so I don't. Would you care to go back to whatever post you think I wrote that said Biden hadn't said anything? I know others have commented on this thread, and I don't recall saying anything to that effect. I would hate for you to be lying, you know. I do find it amusing that the left cares so very much about sexual harassment that they immediately went from "every woman must be believed" to "it's okay for Biden to do stuff because somebody else might have done something". It really demonstrates their concern and compassion for the victims of sexual harassment.

You miss the point, which is that you and your ilk are jumping on this like Grant took Richmond, and yet you dismissed the charges against Trump as rubbish because Trump called 25 women "liars".

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Biden did respond.
He said it never happened.
Of course, he also declared at a rally not long ago, "I am Joe Biden, and I am running for the US Senate".
Of course, Bill Clinton once declared, "I did not have sex with that woman".
 

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