Paul Skenes pulled after pitching 7 no-hit innings

[Harry Dresden]

This guy is the future. You don't gamble your future on an essentially meaningless game.

lots of players were the future and they weren't worth a shit....pitching 2 more innings aint going to hurt the guy...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Doubt it, although he'd be extremely valuable. He's probably the best young arm in baseball and you don't to blow his arm out.

2 more innings in one game were he has a no hitter going aint going to blow the guys arm out...

 

[Harry Dresden]

This discussion is meaningless.

it isnt to baseball fans...

 

[Harry Dresden]

WTF happened to pitchers like Koufax, Denny McClain, and countless others after going 300 or more innings a season?

koufax said he hurt his elbow playing basketball in HS during a fall on it .....pitching just brought the injury on.....otherwise he may never have had a bad arm....

 

[MarathonMike]

yea thats great, but when a pitcher has no hitter going into the 7-8th inning he should be able to go the whole game....that doesnt happen that often....2 more innings aint going to hurt the guy,,,

He had 2 more full innings left and was at 99 pitches. I watched the manager interview and he said that he and the pitching coach saw Skenes wearing down. Kudos to those coaches, Skenes is lucky to be on that team.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why did they pull him???? WTF??

Easy answer.

Skenes has never come close to pitching the amount of innings in a single year that he will log in a normal MLB season. They need to preserve his arm.

They want 10 years out of him, not just one game.

 

[MarathonMike]

koufax said he hurt his elbow playing basketball in HS during a fall on it .....pitching just brought the injury on.....otherwise he may never have had a bad arm....

36 percent of MLB pitchers have had at least one Tommy John surgery. Today's pitchers all throw harder than pitchers from the past. There is a huge difference in torque on the arm when you go from 85 mph to 95 mph.

 

[Harry Dresden]

He had 2 more full innings left and was at 99 pitches. I watched the manager interview and he said that he and the pitching coach saw Skenes wearing down. Kudos to those coaches, Skenes is lucky to be on that team.

yea Ryan used to say he was getting tired too but he wanted to go on.........if they hit him in the 8th then pull him...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

2 more innings in one game were he has a no hitter going aint going to blow the guys arm out...

Not how the decision is made.

Skenes may take no- and one-hitters into the 7th inning several more times this season. Because that's how good he is.

Gonna let him throw 120 or 130 pitches in those outings, too?

It's a set policy, and they follow it. If Skenes starts looking tired in the 5th inning, they will pull him in the 5th inning.

If he reaches 100 pitches after 4 innings, then they will pull him after 4 innings.

 

[pknopp]

36 percent of MLB pitchers have had at least one Tommy John surgery. Today's pitchers all throw harder than pitchers from the past. There is a huge difference in torque on the arm when you go from 85 mph to 95 mph.

Feller threw 100. Nobody wanted to get hit by a Gibson fast ball.

 

[Harry Dresden]

36 percent of MLB pitchers have had at least one Tommy John surgery. Today's pitchers all throw harder than pitchers from the past. There is a huge difference in torque on the arm when you go from 85 mph to 95 mph.

so then with your mind set we will never see another pitcher throw a no hitter....right?....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Feller threw 100.

Which at the time made him a unicorn.

Today, every team has a few guys who throw 98+. My last place Cubs have 4, and a couple on the IL.

So today's pitchers have to do more than throw hard. They have to spin it up there, too.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

so then with your mind set we will never see another pitcher throw a no hitter....right?....

Not a 150 pitch no hitter.

That's right. Will never happen again.

 

[Harry Dresden]

36 percent of MLB pitchers have had at least one Tommy John surgery. Today's pitchers all throw harder than pitchers from the past. There is a huge difference in torque on the arm when you go from 85 mph to 95 mph.

and many of these kids are 6'6 230 pounds like skenes....a lot bigger and stronger thats why they throw 10 mph faster than the players in the past....one game aint going to destroy the kid........

 

[pknopp]

Which at the time made him a unicorn.

Today, every team has a few guys who throw 98+. My last place Cubs have 4, and a couple on the IL.

So today's pitchers have to do more than throw hard. They have to spin it up there, too.

All Maddux needed was control.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Point of note:

Athletes have not become more "genetically superior" in a span of 30 or 40 years.

One big reason we have so many pitchers who can throw 98 mph with a 90 mph sweeper pitch to back it up is that they spend years pushing their bodies to the absolute limits. Not because they fell out of the womb throwing 90, like Nolan Ryan.



This is what the game dictates now. The competition level is simply higher than it once was.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All Maddux needed was control.

Very true. Where are all the other Greg Madduxes, throwing 84 mph sinkers? They are in single A ball with 6.00+ ERAs. Maddux was a unicorn.

 

[pknopp]

Very true. Where are all the other Greg Madduxes, throwing 84 mph sinkers? They are in single A ball with 6.00+ ERAs. Maddux was a unicorn.

If it was about arms, they never would have instituted the pitch clock.

Rushing a pitcher will hurt far more than an extra two innings.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

.one game aint going to destroy the kid..

You keep saying this, but you keep forgetting that Skenes is actually going to pitch more games.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If it was about arms, they never would have instituted the pitch clock.

The Managers of MLB teams did not make that decision. MLB did, and the players union made a concession in allowing it to get other things they wanted.