Paul Ryan & Larry Kudlow: let's have some fun & balance the US budget, you can't tax or even grow your way out of it, you have to reform entitlements

[ThunderKiss1965]

Confiscate all wealth of current/former politicians above their government salaries, put that into SS and Medicare.

You could confiscate all the way back to the first Continental Congress and it wouldn't put a dent in the underfunded liabilities for both. The politicians have truly fucked us all

 

[gipper]

75 million Americans are on Social Security or Medicaid or Medicare

100 million Americans are on Obamacare, food stamps, or veterans benefits....we must reform welfare

work works! we have to encourage work, my friends, as the alternative to welfare

No. You have to eliminate the MIC.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes! The largest surplus in history! Let's keep it that way by never allowing Republicans to have power again.

Spend $5 Trillion is the new surplus...hmmmkay

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yes! The largest surplus in history! Let's keep it that way by never allowing Republicans to have power again.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Just ban Democrats from government, way easier.

Republicans too

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

No one has the balls.

INCLUDING that piece of SHIT P. Ryan.

Empty suit, king of the RINOs.

 

[IM2]

75 million Americans are on Social Security or Medicaid or Medicare

100 million Americans are on Obamacare, food stamps, or veterans benefits....we must reform welfare

work works! we have to encourage work, my friends, as the alternative to welfare

Social security is taken out of paychecks and you have to work 40 quarters to get it. Medicare premiums are taken out of social security. Obama Care requires premium payments. Pay working people decent wages and welfare won't be necessary. Vets earned their benefits.

We pay taxes. We should get something back in return besides a military.

Larry Kudlow and Paul Ryan are 2 idiots and they should not be listened to.

 

[Jets]

What a canard.

“Balancing the budget” is nothing but fallacious campaign rhetoric designed to gull the electorate….

 

[Lisa558]

Let’s start by reforming food stamps.

NOBODY should get food stamps who is unemployed, unless she is a single mother with children below school-age. Require people to take jobs and at least contribute partially to their own support.

Another place to eliminate food stamps is with married couples, regardless of the age of their children, where neither is working. Require one of them to get a full-time job. There’s a poster on this forum who brags that he has an MBA but worked only 10 hours a week, and his wife didn’t work at all, in order to keep the family income low enough to qualify for all welfare benefits.

 

[Penelope]

Let’s start by reforming food stamps.

NOBODY should get food stamps who is unemployed, unless she is a single mother with children below school-age. Require people to take jobs and at least contribute partially to their own support.

Another place to eliminate food stamps is with married couples, regardless of the age of their children, where neither is working. Require one of them to get a full-time job. There’s a poster on this forum who brags that he has an MBA but worked only 10 hours a week, and his wife didn’t work at all, in order to keep the family income low enough to qualify for all welfare benefits.

Intragovernmental Debt​

The Treasury owes this part of the debt to other federal agencies. Intragovernmental holdings totaled more than $6.5 trillion in February 2022.1 Why would the government owe money to itself? Because some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need. These agencies then invest in U.S. Treasurys rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress,


This transfers the agencies' excess revenue to the general fund, where it's spent. They redeem their Treasury notes for funds as needed. The federal government then either raises taxes or issues more debt to raise the cash.

Who Owns the U.S. National Debt?

Most of the U.S. national debt is owned by Social Security, the Federal Reserve, and foreign investors. Learn how it impacts the economy and you.

www.thebalance.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just ban Democrats from government, way easier.

Yeah, because it was a Dem that submitted the 4 of the 5 largest budget request in history of the country...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The politicians have truly fucked us all

We got what the people voted for. Anyone that voted the duopoly over the last 50 or 60 years asked for this

 

[Penelope]

I think your heatlh ins shouldn't be tied to your job.

We would have the wealthy and the paupers now if Republicans had their way.

BluesLegend said it this way:
Ryan can pound sand. That asshole wants to screw people out of government benefits they were FORCED to pay into for decades. These government retards spent all our money on other crap instead of safeguarding our contributions. Now they want to screw us out of the benefits, well that's not going to fly. If they had their way most everyone would die before they could collect a dime.
---------------------------------------
she was wrong, we should ban republicans.

 

[Lisa558]

Intragovernmental Debt​

The Treasury owes this part of the debt to other federal agencies. Intragovernmental holdings totaled more than $6.5 trillion in February 2022.1 Why would the government owe money to itself? Because some agencies, like the Social Security Trust Fund, take in more revenue from taxes than they need. These agencies then invest in U.S. Treasurys rather than stick this cash under a giant mattress,


This transfers the agencies' excess revenue to the general fund, where it's spent. They redeem their Treasury notes for funds as needed. The federal government then either raises taxes or issues more debt to raise the cash.

Who Owns the U.S. National Debt?

Most of the U.S. national debt is owned by Social Security, the Federal Reserve, and foreign investors. Learn how it impacts the economy and you.

www.thebalance.com

What does any of that have to do with cutting food stamps to able-bodied adults who refuse to get a job?

 

[Penelope]

What does any of that have to do with cutting food stamps to able-bodied adults who refuse to get a job?

It doesn't, able -bodied person should get a job, it depends what the make, welfare is also for the able-bodies.

Food stamp are a staple of lower paying workers.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What does any of that have to do with cutting food stamps to able-bodied adults who refuse to get a job?

where do you plan to find these jobs?

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Republicans never even balanced the budget in 40 years of whining about it. (At election time or when a democrat is in office.)

April 14 2916
Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he’d be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt “over a period of eight years.”

“The power is trade. Our deals are so bad,” Trump said. “I would immediately start renegotiating our trade deals with Mexico, China, Japan and all of these countries that are just absolutely destroying us.”


January 26 2022
Republican candidate Donald Trump promised during the 2016 presidential campaign that he would eliminate the nation’s debt in eight years.

Instead, his budget estimates showed that he would actually add at least $8.3 trillion, increasing the U.S. debt to $28.5 trillion by 2025.1 But the national debt reached that figure much sooner. The national debt stood at $19.9 trillion when President Trump took office in January 2017, and it reached a high of $27 trillion in October 2020.

Trump’s second strategy was to eliminate waste and redundancy in federal spending. He demonstrated this cost-consciousness during his campaign when he used his Twitter account and rallies instead of expensive television ads.

But when taxpayers were on the hook for it the grifter spent over $151 million playing golf.

 

[Lisa558]

It doesn't, able -bodied person should get a job, it depends what the make, welfare is also for the able-bodies.

Food stamp are a staple of lower paying workers.

The problem is that we have people on food stamps who refuse to get ANY job. There should be work requirements.

 

[gipper]

We got what the people voted for. Anyone that voted the duopoly over the last 50 or 60 years asked for this

Unfortunately most of us never figure this out. I was as guilty as any duopoly dupe for much of my life. I thank the war criminal W for making me realize it’s all a scam. Yet even as bad as W, O, and Don were (now old Joe too), most Americans are still stuck in the duopoly.

 

[Lisa558]

where do you plan to find these jobs?

There are signs up in Target and Walmart and retail stores everywhere, starting at $17 and up an hour. No excuse for an able-bodied adult to sit on his butt and collect food stamps for his family while refusing to work.