PATRIOTISM: Robert Swan Mueller III vs Donald J. Trump

Tp the OP's credit ( yes you Mr D :rolleyes: ) any and all tyrants on this rock have hidden it behind patriotism or religion


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We all know Donald J. Trump puts himself forward as America's Greatest Patriot. He's compared himself to George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and other Presidents. I've always found his announcements to be more protestations of "Look at me, I'm better than the Me you know!"

Mueller vs Trump - PATRIOTISM: This thread is NO about the Death of Robert Mueller. It's about Patriotism. For starters Contrast below with what we know about Donald Trump and the Vietnam War. Then contrast what Trump believes an Executive can and should do with what Mueller and COMEY saw as Executive overreach

In 1968, not many men with blue blood were signing up to shed it in Vietnam. But after a close friend and lacrosse teammate at Princeton died in battle, Mr. Mueller joined the Marine Corps. After Officer Candidate School and the Army’s Ranger School — Marines trained as Rangers often led long-range reconnaissance patrols, hunt-and-kill missions with a high mortality rate — he shipped out to the Dong Ha combat base, on the northern edge of South Vietnam, near enemy territory.

“You were scared to death of the unknown,” he told Mr. Graff 40 years later. “More afraid in some ways of failure than death, more afraid of being found wanting.” That species of intense fear, he said, “animates your unconscious.”

On his first tour, as a second lieutenant, he earned a Bronze Star for valor on Dec. 11, 1968, while leading an outgunned rifle platoon ambushed in Quang Tri province by an enemy armed with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and mortars.

His citation said he “personally led a fire team across the fire-swept area terrain to recover a mortally wounded Marine,” and it commended his “courage, aggressive initiative and unwavering devotion to duty at great personal risk.”

Four months later, he was shot through the thigh with an AK-47 round while leading his platoon to rescue American soldiers under a lethal Vietcong attack. He was awarded the Purple Heart.



more:

4 of the Most Dramatic Moments From the Mueller Report



B4 Trump we had gone down the road to Becoming Bankrupt- Two ways Gradually, then suddenly Bush unilaterally reauthorize Stellarwind unilaterally March 11, 2004, asserting his power overrode the Constitution

"Of greater concern to Mr. Mueller and Mr. Comey was their determination that the program violated the Constitution’s protections against illegal searches and seizures. They convinced Attorney General John Ashcroft that he could not reauthorize Stellarwind. But Mr. Bush did so, unilaterally, on the morning of March 11, 2004, asserting in effect that his power overrode the Constitution."

"Russia Russia Russia"- Mueller Report does not exonerate him - Trump proclaimed that he had been totally exonerated

The report concluded that Russia had systemically sought to help Mr. Trump win the election, and that the candidate and his campaign had encouraged their clandestine assistance. It laid out 10 cases in which the president and his aides had sought to impede the F.B.I. investigation. Its key passage read: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

But the attorney general, while keeping the text of the report secret, ostensibly to redact sensitive information, announced only that “the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”

Mr. Trump proclaimed that he had been “totally exonerated.”
Trump won that battle. **** off.
 
We all know Donald J. Trump puts himself forward as America's Greatest Patriot. He's compared himself to George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and other Presidents. I've always found his announcements to be more protestations of "Look at me, I'm better than the Me you know!"

Mueller vs Trump - PATRIOTISM: This thread is NO about the Death of Robert Mueller. It's about Patriotism. For starters Contrast below with what we know about Donald Trump and the Vietnam War. Then contrast what Trump believes an Executive can and should do with what Mueller and COMEY saw as Executive overreach

In 1968, not many men with blue blood were signing up to shed it in Vietnam. But after a close friend and lacrosse teammate at Princeton died in battle, Mr. Mueller joined the Marine Corps. After Officer Candidate School and the Army’s Ranger School — Marines trained as Rangers often led long-range reconnaissance patrols, hunt-and-kill missions with a high mortality rate — he shipped out to the Dong Ha combat base, on the northern edge of South Vietnam, near enemy territory.

“You were scared to death of the unknown,” he told Mr. Graff 40 years later. “More afraid in some ways of failure than death, more afraid of being found wanting.” That species of intense fear, he said, “animates your unconscious.”

On his first tour, as a second lieutenant, he earned a Bronze Star for valor on Dec. 11, 1968, while leading an outgunned rifle platoon ambushed in Quang Tri province by an enemy armed with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and mortars.

His citation said he “personally led a fire team across the fire-swept area terrain to recover a mortally wounded Marine,” and it commended his “courage, aggressive initiative and unwavering devotion to duty at great personal risk.”

Four months later, he was shot through the thigh with an AK-47 round while leading his platoon to rescue American soldiers under a lethal Vietcong attack. He was awarded the Purple Heart.



more:

4 of the Most Dramatic Moments From the Mueller Report



B4 Trump we had gone down the road to Becoming Bankrupt- Two ways Gradually, then suddenly Bush unilaterally reauthorize Stellarwind unilaterally March 11, 2004, asserting his power overrode the Constitution

"Of greater concern to Mr. Mueller and Mr. Comey was their determination that the program violated the Constitution’s protections against illegal searches and seizures. They convinced Attorney General John Ashcroft that he could not reauthorize Stellarwind. But Mr. Bush did so, unilaterally, on the morning of March 11, 2004, asserting in effect that his power overrode the Constitution."

"Russia Russia Russia"- Mueller Report does not exonerate him - Trump proclaimed that he had been totally exonerated

The report concluded that Russia had systemically sought to help Mr. Trump win the election, and that the candidate and his campaign had encouraged their clandestine assistance. It laid out 10 cases in which the president and his aides had sought to impede the F.B.I. investigation. Its key passage read: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

But the attorney general, while keeping the text of the report secret, ostensibly to redact sensitive information, announced only that “the Special Counsel’s investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.”

Mr. Trump proclaimed that he had been “totally exonerated.”
Mueller framed four innocent men for a murder that his confidential informant committed.

That prick should burn in hell if there is one.
 
Mueller was a traitor. Mueller covered up multiple treasonous frauds against America, especially CO2 FRAUD - MUELLER enforced W/Mukasey's treason...
 
For his whole career everybody praised him, unlike Trump who has been laughed at and mocked.

You people did this with John McCain too

Take down your American flags and you bs POW/MIA ones. You are all phonies
Bullshit. You and your fellow shitbag Communists celebrated when Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a shemale Leftist loser. So spare us the phony outrage.
 
No Class by our President
Trump shall reap what he sows
These are the despicable thoughts trump has had all his life. But now he says them out loud because he's senile.
From the "President" of the United States of America.

And the flock loves it, defends it, attacks for it.

The bottom line remains for me: I had no idea so many Americans were like this.
 
Coprolalia has caught up with grumpy old grandpa Don. He's lost an awareness of how what he says out loud affects those around him. Like when he made that crass joke in front of the Japanese PM.

These are the despicable thoughts trump has had all his life. But now he says them out loud because he's senile.
Life is what you are taking about. You can go to a few or more of the same chain fast food places or wal marts within a several square mile area and have different attitudes from employees. And if the nasty attitude is the same from more of them in a culture you approve of and spout, they are not haters and it makes no difference. That is okay from your standards. So, Trump is Trump. Just like the ones you love in the groups you adore, that is Trump at times. Of course he does have a sense of humor. Trump is closer to being a part of groups in Prog voting circles than Obama was. Privileged or not.
 
From the "President" of the United States of America.

And the flock loves it, defends it, attacks for it.

The bottom line remains for me: I had no idea so many Americans were like this.

When Trump dies and Liberals around the country pile on, MAGA will whine about showing respect for the dead.

We will pull out quotes like these
 
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Do you realize what you are saying?

You admit that Mueller either:

1. Had the evidence to prosecute him but failed to do his job and let a criminal betray his country instead.

2 Did not have the evidence to successfully prosecute him and declined to tell the world that the whole affair was basically a witchunt.
Your ignorance is appalling. Mueller states clearly in his report he is guided by the OLC finding that a sitting prez can not be prosecuted. However, he does lay out the case for trump's prosecution on multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map​


The Mueller report describes numerous instances in which President Trump may have obstructed justice. A few days ago, I threw together a quick spreadsheet on Twitter to assess how Special Counsel Robert Mueller seemed to assess the evidence. Unexpectedly, that spreadsheet got a fair amount of attention—so I thought I would delve back into the evidence to provide a revised visualization with a little more nuance, which will hopefully be helpful to people attempting to parse a legally and factually dense document.

The key question is how Robert Mueller and his team assessed the three elements “common to most of the relevant statutes” relating to obstruction of justice: an obstructive act, a nexus between the act and an official proceeding, and corrupt intent. As Mueller describes, the special counsel’s office “gathered evidence … relevant to the elements of those crimes and analyzed them within an elements framework—while refraining from reaching ultimate conclusions about whether crimes were committed,” because of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC)’s guidelines against the indictment of a sitting president.
 
Your ignorance is appalling. Mueller states clearly in his report he is guided by the OLC finding that a sitting prez can not be prosecuted. However, he does lay out the case for trump's prosecution on multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map​


The Mueller report describes numerous instances in which President Trump may have obstructed justice. A few days ago, I threw together a quick spreadsheet on Twitter to assess how Special Counsel Robert Mueller seemed to assess the evidence. Unexpectedly, that spreadsheet got a fair amount of attention—so I thought I would delve back into the evidence to provide a revised visualization with a little more nuance, which will hopefully be helpful to people attempting to parse a legally and factually dense document.

The key question is how Robert Mueller and his team assessed the three elements “common to most of the relevant statutes” relating to obstruction of justice: an obstructive act, a nexus between the act and an official proceeding, and corrupt intent. As Mueller describes, the special counsel’s office “gathered evidence … relevant to the elements of those crimes and analyzed them within an elements framework—while refraining from reaching ultimate conclusions about whether crimes were committed,” because of the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC)’s guidelines against the indictment of a sitting president.
You people take the cake. The prosecution was before the American people, a case they failed to make because he was reelected

But in the back of your warped TDS mind, you still think Trump colluded with Putin, of course today, you claim that the Jews control him

Hilarious!

You people really are retarded.

I have to admit, I thought at one point that the Left was half retarded, but after they ran Joe Biden who have full stage dementia lying their arses off about it the whole way, I now believe them to be fully retarded.
 
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You people take the cake. The prosecution was before the American people, a case they failed to make because he was reelected
His re-election does not alter the evidence in Mueller's report that trump obstructed justice. Nor does it alter the evidence Smith presented in his indictments that trump was guilty of the crimes for which he was indicted in the 2020 election plot case and the theft of classified docs.
 
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