Past time for Republicans to pick a side

[martybegan]

He didn’t ask; he threatened. That’s furtherance of a conspiracy to overturn a lawful election. If that isn’t a crime, I don’t know what is.

the difference between the two is a matter of opinion, one of course clouded by your TDS.

 

[martybegan]

Is that the bullshit story you tell yourself at night to make you feel better about supporting this crap?

Because that’s entirely bullshit.

No, because his beliefs at the time play into any attempt to frame him as trying to cheat his way to a win. In his view he was trying to restore a win taken from him.

 

[JGalt]

Even if he didn't, he sure as hell thought he did. If he clearly thought he was being cheated, shouldn't he fight back?

Of course he should. The Democrats have challenged every Republican Presidential election since 2000, culminating with a full-blown coup on Trump that started the day he took office.

 

[Oddball]

I am not sure Trump violated the Constitution. I disagree with what he wanted Vice President Pence to do. In fact, on that point, I say Pence honored his oath to the best of his ability even if it cost him the rest of his political career.

And of course if he thought that the Dims had succeeded in stealing enough votes to turn a states electoral count, he should have fought it.

I suppose the bigger questions include:

How credible was his belief about electoral theft?
What concrete evidence did he have of it?
Was there adequate proof that the illegal efforts involved sufficient numbers to turn any state’s electoral outcome?
And, what method or methods of “fighting” the allegedly false outcome would be legally proper?

None of it was about Pence deciding anything about the nature of the votes.

He had three letters in hand, from three different state Secs. of State, asking him to postpone the seating of their electors for another ten days, to investigate and review their certifications.

Contrary to the blatant leftbat lies, nobody asked Pence to overturn the election, nor did he have the power to do so.

 

[BackAgain]

None of it was about Pence deciding anything about the nature of the votes.

He had three letters in hand, from three different state Secs. of State, asking him to postpone the seating of their electors for another ten days, to investigate and review their certifications.

Contrary to the blatant leftbat lies, nobody asked Pence to overturn the election, nor did he have the power to do so.

I’m intrigued by that. I am not as informed as I feel is should be. Do you have a suggested link or an article or whatever I can review for a while?

 

[Oddball]

I’m intrigued by that. I am not as informed as I feel is should be. Do you have a suggested link or an article or whatever I can review for a while?

I misspoke....It was numerous state legislators from several states, who have legal purview over the certification of their electors....It's why they chose alternate electors in the first place.

I believe it was from the states of PA, AZ, and GA....If all three flipped or abstained from certifying -a longshot- Trump may have been re-elected.

88 State Legislators Ask VP Pence to Delay Count of Electoral Votes

88 state legislators from five battleground states asked Pence to postpone the opening and counting of Electoral College votes for 10 days.

www.breitbart.com

Georgia State Senators Call on Pence to Delay Jan. 6 Electoral Vote – Just One More Voice

justonemorevoice.com

 

[BackAgain]

I misspoke....It was numerous state legislators from several states, who have legal purview over the certification of their electors....It's why they chose alternate electors in the first place.

I believe it was from the states of PA, AZ, and GA....If all three flipped or abstained from certifying -a longshot- Trump may have been re-elected.

88 State Legislators Ask VP Pence to Delay Count of Electoral Votes

88 state legislators from five battleground states asked Pence to postpone the opening and counting of Electoral College votes for 10 days.

www.breitbart.com

Georgia State Senators Call on Pence to Delay Jan. 6 Electoral Vote – Just One More Voice

justonemorevoice.com

I’ll be studying now. Thank you.

 

[Aldo Raine]

I wonder how many people are teetering on saying, "okay, enough".

ESPECIALLY in the orange orbit.

Very damn few unfortunately!
MAGA

 

[Aldo Raine]

LMAO 74 million votes for Trump vs Adam Kinzinger's opinion.

ROTFLMFAO
81,000,000 still >74,000,000!!!
MAGA

 

[Colin norris]

The Constitution isn’t broken. I wonder if you meant to ask about some (alleged) violation of the Constitution by Trump? What would that be?

He broke his constitutional oath of office by soliciting information from another country and offering government money as payment for it.
Would that be enough?

 

[BluesLegend]

ROTFLMFAO
81,000,000 still >74,000,000!!!
MAGA

How many were fake cheaters.

 

[BackAgain]

He broke his constitutional oath of office by soliciting information from another country and offering government money as payment for it.
Would that be enough?

No. Be specific. What country? When? What were the circumstances? What specific laws do you claim he broke in the process?

 

[Mac-7]

I wonder how many people are teetering on saying, "okay, enough".

ESPECIALLY in the orange orbit.

We’ve enough of the trump haters

AKA the lib holier than thou crowd

 

[Colin norris]

No. Be specific. What country? When? What were the circumstances? What specific laws do you claim he broke in the process?

Go away you drongo.
I just said it. Stop being a petulant brain dead troll.

 

[konradv]

the difference between the two is a matter of opinion, one of course clouded by your TDS.

Sometimes DS is warranted, especially in this case.

 

[Aldo Raine]

How many were fake cheaters.

0 for ByeDon, but so far almost all the fraud has been for The Fat Orange Idiot!
MAGA

 

[martybegan]

Sometimes DS is warranted, especially in this case.

Derangement is never warranted.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump says he wanted Pence to overturn the 2020 election and falsely claims it was vice president's 'right'

Former President Donald Trump in a statement Sunday said he wanted then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 presidential election, repeating the false claim that Pence had the power to do so and slamming recent bipartisan efforts to reform the Electoral Count Act.

www.cnn.com

I love the last sentence of this article made by Adam Kinzinger that Republicans have to pick a side, Trump or the Constitution.

They can't have it both ways much as they want to. Trump carries a lot of tarnish with him and some of it rubs off on anyone who associates with him. With the outstanding work being done by the January 6 Committee, Republicans may realize that sooner rather than later.

Bigly!!!

Another globalist fraud used as a tea party person and is a shill. So many hidden operatives in our government. Many have come out and shown themselves. Many more to be brought forward as we descend into tyranny.

 

[colfax_m]

No, because his beliefs at the time play into any attempt to frame him as trying to cheat his way to a win. In his view he was trying to restore a win taken from him.

Having a sincere belief doesn’t excuse depriving people of their rights.

If Trump thinks his beliefs that he won outweigh due process then it demonstrates why he is dangerous for the country.

And that’s not even addressing mental and emotional state that led him to this belief.

 

[martybegan]

Having a sincere belief doesn’t excuse depriving people of their rights.

If Trump thinks his beliefs that he won outweigh due process then it demonstrates why he is dangerous for the country.

And that’s not even addressing mental and emotional state that led him to this belief.

Thinking that his voters were deprived of their rights is the reason he fought back.

What due process did he violate? Were there Trumpists with pitchforks at these State counts?

Even Jan 6th did nothing to overturn any government, and only delayed a vote for a few hours.