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It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
I tend to agree...but also...they are faced with figuring out a big change in a short amount of time. and factually...government bureaucracies have never excelled in that arena.
It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
I tend to agree...but also...they are faced with figuring out a big change in a short amount of time. and factually...government bureaucracies have never excelled in that arena.
Was no national emergency to panic and blast past the details of mass mailing of ballots.. 40 to 70% of voters in those states are STILL GOING TO POLLS.. Fauci says voting in person is probably safer than going to the grocery store.. Or CAN be if the guidelines are followed...
If those BLUE STATES didn't see an opportunity to eake out a few more votes or DELAY the election results -- they wouldn't have done it.. Was NOT necessary because of Covid and the Congress needs to TIGHTEN the schedule and the process for voting in National elections.. Tulsi Gabbard has introduced a bill to DO THAT -- and you KNOW -- it ain't going nowhere in Pelosi's royal court...
Their voters are LAZY... so they will not follow instructions....Jeez...Put one envelope into another envelope, in order to have your vote count....Pretty tricky stuff there!
Look at it as a competency test for voting.
Since Demonrats VBM more often than Republicans, even Axios is worried about VBM now.
Democrats are pivoting to embrace in-person voting
They're shifting from a focus on mail-in voting to promoting more in-person voting as well.www.axios.com
First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Yeah, this is the result of 1/2 of the nation being completely against any form of tax increases. We, as a people, accept that the price of everything from plumbers, to Big Macs, to cars, to clothing to video games goes up on average. You can still find deals and sales--personal computers is a great example but the reduced price item is almost always saddled with substandard or soon-to-be-obsolete capabilities. But somehow, we as a people live under the fantasy that the price of government never rises; as if the office manager at the County Clerk's office somehow doesn't need updated computers, doesn't need more staff to do things like cross-match vital stats with voter rolls. So the divorced and re-married Ms. Smith gets 3 ballots sent to her; her maiden name and both married names. Lord help us if she lived in 3 different houses...she may get nine ballots.
These are the stakes of "cutting spending to the bone".
Damn...I keep forgetting it's all the fault of the Blue States and Dems. Sorry 'bout that.I tend to agree...but also...they are faced with figuring out a big change in a short amount of time. and factually...government bureaucracies have never excelled in that arena.
Was no national emergency to panic and blast past the details of mass mailing of ballots.. 40 to 70% of voters in those states are STILL GOING TO POLLS.. Fauci says voting in person is probably safer than going to the grocery store.. Or CAN be if the guidelines are followed...
If those BLUE STATES didn't see an opportunity to eake out a few more votes or DELAY the election results -- they wouldn't have done it.. Was NOT necessary because of Covid and the Congress needs to TIGHTEN the schedule and the process for voting in National elections.. Tulsi Gabbard has introduced a bill to DO THAT -- and you KNOW -- it ain't going nowhere in Pelosi's royal court...
It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
Well Oregon is not the entire US......sorry, that doesnt matter.......It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
Yeah and it's like Oregon, Colorado has some of that too, but they are smaller states.....NY and California? I can't wait to see this train wreck.....and the people voting are going to make mistakes, which means ballots will be DQed..........in person is the way to go......tried and tested......It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
Exactly. Though, to be fair, they've had time to get it right.
Well Oregon is not the entire US......sorry, that doesnt matter.......It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
It's not who is counting the ballot, it's the chain....read my post again.....
Ok, do it, vote by mail......I can't wait for this.....Well Oregon is not the entire US......sorry, that doesnt matter.......It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
It's not who is counting the ballot, it's the chain....read my post again.....
Yeah...your post was nonsense. It's not evidence in a trial. It's a ballot. Again, nobody in those states (more than Oregon) ever raised a peep about "the chain". Nor have they done so with the military who has been voting by mail for about a century. Your blob programmed you to be outraged about this and you're not disappointing your master.
If you can't read the instructions -which are no doubt printed in multiple languages- then put the included privacy envelope inside the mailing envelope, then you're too goddamn stupid to have your vote count.First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
This "mass mailing" of ballots is SO well planned and thought out -- What could possibly go wrong? Maybe the whole security of voting IN PRIVATE with as few eyes as possible on your ballot? Maybe folks returning mass mailed ballots can not follow simple directions?
It's been legally required to provide an inner envelope (secrecy envelope) on absentee ballots in most states. That way there is less labor on election day and less folks in the "inner sanctum" to feed them to the counting machines.. This ruling confirms that folks MUST FOLLOW DIRECTIONS and use the secrecy envelope when returning mail ballots. Dems are outraged of course.. Any RULES that must be followed to protect the voting process is "voter disenchisement"..
So -- we're gonna test this shart bomb LIVE on Election day huh?? Without any legislation or hearings or process... Never let Dems design voting process.. They couldn't count to 100,000 in Iowa caucuses for their own puny primary with the people standing there right in front of them.
Philadelphia election official warns 'naked ballot' ruling could jeopardize 100,000 Pennsylvania votes
A top elections official in Philadelphia is warning that 100,000 ballots could be rejected because of a recent ruling regarding so-called "naked ballots."www.cnbc.com
The top elections official in Philadelphia is warning that a little-noticed aspect of a recent ruling by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court could cause over 100,000 votes statewide to be voided, creating the conditions for a post-election legal battle “the likes of which we have not seen since Florida in 2000.”
Lisa Deeley, the Democratic chairwoman of the city commissioners office, which oversees elections, cited the Thursday decision from the court that invalidated so-called “naked ballots,” or those that are submitted without secrecy envelopes that mask the identity of the voter, in a letter dated Monday and addressed to state lawmakers.
The ruling interpreted a law that specifies that those voting by mail must place their ballots inside envelopes that shield their name. Those envelopes are then placed in a second envelope which has the address of the voter’s election board.
The state Democratic Party had argued that while the election code directed voters to use the secrecy envelope, it did not authorize officials to discard their ballots if they did not do so. The state Republican Party, on the other hand, argued that counting naked ballots would compromise the integrity of the secret ballot.
Justice Max Baer wrote that based on the text of the law it was clear that the state legislature intended that “it should not be readily apparent who the elector is, with what party he or she affiliates, or for whom the elector has voted.”
I had one in Colorado before I moved back to TN and it takes a moment.....I don't see how a group like democrats can fill them out when they couldn't do a simple butterfly ballot that people had done for decadesIf you can't read the instructions -which are no doubt printed in multiple languages- then put the included privacy envelope inside the mailing envelope, then you're too goddamn stupid to have your vote count.First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
It's not cheating.....You are certifiable dopes.
Fuck you.
Well Oregon is not the entire US......sorry, that doesnt matter.......It's not that....its stupid to do this....there is a lack of control.....First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
Ballots should be treated like evidence in an investigation......if you can't see the chain of custody from voter to counter...than it's not valid....just like evidence
and mail in ballots require a more work and intelligence to fill out and mail back correctly.......democrats are not known to be the sharpest tools in the shed and have had many ballot issues in the past
The same person counting ballots filed in person is counting ballots by mail. There is no "lack of control". It's a manufactured lack of confidence instilled by Trump.
Several states have been voting by mail for years. Nobody ever questioned the validity of those elections in the past.
It's not who is counting the ballot, it's the chain....read my post again.....
Yeah...your post was nonsense. It's not evidence in a trial. It's a ballot. Again, nobody in those states (more than Oregon) ever raised a peep about "the chain". Nor have they done so with the military who has been voting by mail for about a century. Your blob programmed you to be outraged about this and you're not disappointing your master.
Seven of those nine votes were for trump. Do you want them thrown out because they didn't have that sleeve?This "mass mailing" of ballots is SO well planned and thought out -- What could possibly go wrong? Maybe the whole security of voting IN PRIVATE with as few eyes as possible on your ballot? Maybe folks returning mass mailed ballots can not follow simple directions?
It's been legally required to provide an inner envelope (secrecy envelope) on absentee ballots in most states. That way there is less labor on election day and less folks in the "inner sanctum" to feed them to the counting machines.. This ruling confirms that folks MUST FOLLOW DIRECTIONS and use the secrecy envelope when returning mail ballots. Dems are outraged of course.. Any RULES that must be followed to protect the voting process is "voter disenchisement"..
So -- we're gonna test this shart bomb LIVE on Election day huh?? Without any legislation or hearings or process... Never let Dems design voting process.. They couldn't count to 100,000 in Iowa caucuses for their own puny primary with the people standing there right in front of them.
Philadelphia election official warns 'naked ballot' ruling could jeopardize 100,000 Pennsylvania votes
A top elections official in Philadelphia is warning that 100,000 ballots could be rejected because of a recent ruling regarding so-called "naked ballots."
The top elections official in Philadelphia is warning that a little-noticed aspect of a recent ruling by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court could cause over 100,000 votes statewide to be voided, creating the conditions for a post-election legal battle “the likes of which we have not seen since Florida in 2000.”
Lisa Deeley, the Democratic chairwoman of the city commissioners office, which oversees elections, cited the Thursday decision from the court that invalidated so-called “naked ballots,” or those that are submitted without secrecy envelopes that mask the identity of the voter, in a letter dated Monday and addressed to state lawmakers.
The ruling interpreted a law that specifies that those voting by mail must place their ballots inside envelopes that shield their name. Those envelopes are then placed in a second envelope which has the address of the voter’s election board.
The state Democratic Party had argued that while the election code directed voters to use the secrecy envelope, it did not authorize officials to discard their ballots if they did not do so. The state Republican Party, on the other hand, argued that counting naked ballots would compromise the integrity of the secret ballot.
Justice Max Baer wrote that based on the text of the law it was clear that the state legislature intended that “it should not be readily apparent who the elector is, with what party he or she affiliates, or for whom the elector has voted.”
Those 9 votes that trump and barr tried to use to say that all his votes will be thrown out, were votes sent in without that secrecy sleeve. So according to what the law says, what trump and you followers want, those without that shield should be thrown out without being counted.
Seven of those nine votes were for trump. Do you want them thrown out because they didn't have that sleeve?
So you can't have it both ways. Either those ballots without that sleeve should not be counted or they should but shouldn't ever be used by trump or barr to lie about voter fraud.
Those 9 votes that trump and barr tried to use to say that all his votes will be thrown out, were votes sent in without that secrecy sleeve. So according to what the law says, what trump and you followers want, those without that shield should be thrown out without being counted.
If you can't read the instructions -which are no doubt printed in multiple languages- then put the included privacy envelope inside the mailing envelope, then you're too goddamn stupid to have your vote count.First the in-person voting was fraudulent...now you guys suddenly prefer it to voting by mail?
It sounds like conserve-hate-ives just don't want more people voting.
Apparently - regardless of how the voting occurs...if it benefits or is mythologized as benefiting Dems it's fraudulent.
That said, it does seem as if there are a lot of valid issues. Lack of good planning for large scale mailings and a concerted effort by the Republicans to suppress voting.
It's not cheating.....You are certifiable dopes.
Fuck you.
