An appeals court says 'undated' Pennsylvania ballots don't count

[WEATHER53]

Why are Democrats afraid of IDs. My friend had to give his ID last week to buy Alka Seltzer. My lady had to give her SS# to get 2 hundred dollar bills broken at the bank. But it's too hard to show an ID to vote? Horse shit. Democrats are election fraudsters, plain and simply. I'm glad our federal court is finally going to expose the unconstitutionality of Pennsylvania's liberal bought courts. MAGA

IDs thwart malfeasance. Dems don’t want that and play boo hoo about it’s too hard

 

[Lastamender]

Why are Republicans afraid of voters? Because they lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 elections.

No one is afraid of legal votes and voters. These ballots have just been ruled illegal. Period.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Weather53 is boo hooing again.

 

[WEATHER53]

Weather53 is boo hooing again.

I just used that phrase and your brainless absent original thought copy cat slow horses ass regurgitated it
We thank you for your handraising of submission Once Again

 

[Care4all]

By requiring a photo ID when it's cast. Duh.

Was there ever a case or two in the USA, where people voted in another person's place at the voting booth???

Why would you even think someone or hoards of people that could affect the results, would risk a felony by showing up in person to vote in another person's place...?

It doesn't happen, or very very very very rarely has happened which proves govt issued photo id's only purpose by the right wing push, was to make it harder via hurdles, to vote, for the poorer citizens who don't have a car or don't drive or don't already have a gov't issued id.

States that allow other identification like your phone bill with home address and your name on it is not disenfranchising...it's something they have on hand....that can be presented.

It was all likely also a ruse, to get more Americans in to having real id, and a tracking device for our government....imo.

 

[Orangecat]

Was there ever a case or two in the USA, where people voted in another person's place at the voting booth???

Do you think I'm Google or something?
Using multiple question marks makes you look like an unhinged emo dingbat.

Why would you even think someone or hoards of people that could affect the results, would risk a felony by showing up in person to vote in another person's place...?

You libtards have become increasingly desperate as time goes on. Your cheating certainly wouldn't come as a surprise at this point.

It doesn't happen, or very very very very rarely has happened which proves govt issued photo id's only purpose by the right wing push, was to make it harder via hurdles, to vote, for the poorer citizens who don't have a car or don't drive or don't already have a gov't issued id.

Fuck off with your namby-pamby virtue signaling.

States that allow other identification like your phone bill with home address and your name on it is not disenfranchising...it's something they have on hand....that can be presented.

A phone bill? How does that verify that the garbage-sifter is the person named on the bill?

It was all a ruse, to get more Americans in to having real id, and a tracking devise for our government....imo.

Paranoid much? It's "device", btw.

 

[Care4all]

Do you think I'm Google or something?
Using multiple question marks makes you look like an unhinged emo dingbat.

You libtards have become increasingly desperate as time goes on. Your cheating certainly wouldn't come as a surprise at this point.

Fuck off with your namby-pamby virtue signaling.

A phone bill? How does that verify that the garbage-sifter is the person named on the bill?

Paranoid much? It's "device", btw.

How is some one else going to get your phone bill?

It has your name, your address....that's all that is needed to verify you are registered and on the list to vote.

I've never needed ID, I did have to answer some questions the poll worker asked....my party affiliation, my name, and my address.... and then my signature on the roster....that was a few decades ago when I went in person, but I've been voting mail in voting for a few decades now.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I just used that phrase and your brainless absent original thought copy cat slow horses ass regurgitated it
We thank you for your handraising of submission Once Again

Coming up with that must have taken 1/2 hour of intense brain effort.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

Seems like a common sense ruling. Ballots not filled out properly shouldn’t be counted. This should not be controversial on the least

 

[Zincwarrior]

A huge victory for ballot integrity. Let's see what happens on any appeal to SCOTUS.

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A federal appeals panel has set up a potential U.S. Supreme Court battle about Pennsylvania's mail-in ballots that could play a role in determining who wins this year's presidential election and other races in the key swing state.​

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Mailed ballots that arrive on time but in envelopes without dates handwritten by Pennsylvania voters or with incorrect dates should not be counted, a three-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Wednesday. Their 2-1 decision strikes down a lower court ruling.​

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The main legal issue surrounding what are often called "undated ballots" is whether not tallying them violates the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which says a person's right to vote cannot be denied for "an error or omission" that is "not material" in determining voting eligibility.​

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A current, handwritten date on the return envelope is required by Pennsylvania state law, but that date is not used to confirm if a person is eligible to vote. For past elections, the final vote tallies by county election officials have included ballots arriving in undated or misdated return envelopes.​

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In the panel's majority opinion, 3rd U.S. Circuit Judge Thomas Ambro said that what's known in legal circles as the materiality provision "only applies when the State is determining who may vote."​

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"In other words, its role stops at the door of the voting place," wrote Ambro, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton, who was joined by Circuit Judge Cindy Chung, a Biden appointee. "The Provision does not apply to rules, like the date requirement, that govern how a qualified voter must cast his ballot for it to be counted."​

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Circuit Judge Patty Shwartz, an Obama appointee, dissented and wrote in a separate opinion that the provision "is not limited to that narrow group of documents" used to register to vote, as attorneys for the Republican National Committee argued in this case.​

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https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/1233743082/pennsylvania-undated-ballots-ruling

How is that a victory. It sounds like it excludes ballots because someone didn't put a date on the outside.

 

[OldFlame]

We have mail in voting to get the citizens that can't easily make it in person to vote, a method to still exercise their constitutional right to vote.

Proxy voting is what they do, to get more citizens to vote, that normally wouldn't or couldn't vote....allow another person, to Vote in person in your place.....which is something our election laws do not permit.

So yes they do not have mail in voting but have proxy voting.

And...

Yes we do have mail in voting but have no Proxy voting.

If you want to mail your vote in then you should have to prove you cannot physically go to a polling place, and that is not what we have today. It should be handled like any other absentee ballot with checks and balances.

 

[OldFlame]

IDs thwart malfeasance. Dems don’t want that and play boo hoo about it’s too hard

I haven't seen reps implement it when they have the ability to, they are no better, they are one unit and there is little distinction.

 

[Orangecat]

How is some one else going to get your phone bill?

Pay attention:

A phone bill? How does that verify that the garbage-sifter is the person named on the bill?

It has your name, your address....that's all that is needed to verify you are registered and on the list to vote.

Does it have your picture on it, or can anyone who pulls a phone bill out of your mailbox or trash vote in your place?

I've never needed ID, I did have to answer some questions the poll worker asked....my party affiliation, my name, and my address.... and then my signature on the roster....that was a few decades ago when I went in person, but I've been voting mail in voting for a few decades now.

Anecdotal evidence is meaningless in the aggregate.

 

[Orangecat]

How is that a victory. It sounds like it excludes ballots because someone didn't put a date on the outside.

If you're too stupid to follow the rules, you're too stupid to vote.

 

[Orangecat]

Weather53 is boo hooing again.

 

[excalibur]

What Biden disaster is Trump gonna fix? What are the Biden's disasters????

 

[excalibur]

They can vote by PROXy in Europe, we can not here.

That means they let others vote in your place if you have to work or are sick or disabled.

As far as I know, mostly for EU elections. And at least in France a PoA is required. So an ID would be required to grant that PoA.

Proxy voting

You will be absent on the day of the vote (European elections, presidential, legislative, municipal, departmental, regional...)? You can have a voter vote for you at your polling station. To do this, you must make a proxy vote. Doing so as soon as possible ensures that you can vote by proxy on...

www.service-public.fr

So if other, national elections, please

 

[excalibur]

What does that have to do with mail-in voting?

Conflation.

And where proxy voting s allowed, see France, you must sign a PoA, so an ID would be needed to have a PoA authorized.

 

[excalibur]

We have mail in voting to get the citizens that can't easily make it in person to vote, a method to still exercise their constitutional right to vote.

Proxy voting is what they do, to get more citizens to vote, that normally wouldn't or couldn't vote....allow another person, to Vote in person in your place.....which is something our election laws do not permit.

So yes they do not have mail in voting but have proxy voting.

And...

Yes we do have mail in voting but have no Proxy voting.

For all that proxy voting you say they have in the EU.

And do you know that there is a difference between the two systems? You need to grant a PoA to have someone proxy vote for you, that means a signed legal document using an ID to prove who you are.

 

[Burgermeister]

So yes they do not have mail in voting

Because they banned it because it's too easily corrupted.