Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[Sixties Fan]

Images on a leaflet dropped by Israeli military aircraft near the Gaza border ahead of Friday demonstrations, April 20, 2018 (IDF)

Israel drops leaflets warning Gaza protesters to keep away from fence

 

[Shusha]

Will the International Criminal Court Prosecute Israel for War Crimes?

Not, if this "Press" individual was a member of the Hamas organization, just as the first one was, and was working at the time to harm the fence.

They were ALL warned not to come near the fence, or attempt to do anything which would harm or destroy it.

They were warned to stay off their own land?

That's nice.

They were warned not to take any actions that are harmful to Israel. They were warned to be peaceful. They couldn't manage it.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Oh come on now. Don't pretend you have never heard of them.

Will the International Criminal Court Prosecute Israel for War Crimes?

Not, if this "Press" individual was a member of the Hamas organization, just as the first one was, and was working at the time to harm the fence.

They were ALL warned not to come near the fence, or attempt to do anything which would harm or destroy it.

They were warned to stay off their own land?

That's nice.

(COMMENT)

Propably the two most famous are:

The 38th Parallel DMZ separating North Korea from South Korea, maintained by the United Nations Command in Seoul Korea (since 1953). The DMZ is 250 km long and 4 km wide (2 km on each side). You may not enter the 2 km buffer zone and you may not just walk up to the fense. The Joint Security Area is in Panmunjom and is considered the most sensitive area of Korea's demilitarised zone.

The Iron Curtain separated the Western Powers from the WARSAW Pact Countries in Eastern Europe. It also had a 1 km buffer zone on each side of the demarcation line.

Similarly, the 17th Parallel (The partition of French Indochina) that separated North and South Korea (1954 Geneva Accords), in its time, was quite well known. If memory serves me, it was 5 km wide.​

The whine that they "were warned to stay off their own land" is simply uncalled for. It is customary law recognized by all the major powers as to how things are done. It is provided for in the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Images on a leaflet dropped by Israeli military aircraft near the Gaza border ahead of Friday demonstrations, April 20, 2018 (IDF)

Israel drops leaflets warning Gaza protesters to keep away from fence

There’s a certain element of “this is pitiful” in appealing to the lowest common (islamic) denominator. Having to address these simpleton folks with pictographs denoting that assaulting a defended border with bombs, explosives and firearms is, you know, a bad idea.

 

[fanger]

Just back from Gaza, pictures to follow

 

[Kondor3]

Just back from Gaza, pictures to follow

Go get 'em, Achmed...

 

[Sixties Fan]

Screenshot in case video removed
Except this is not video of 15-year-old Azzam Aweida being shot at all. It is video of 19-year-old Abdel Fattah Abdel Nabi supposedly being shot, video that was released almost a month ago (and which has many hallmarks of being a Pallywood production).

Compare the videos in the post with that from the Daily Mail. They are clearly showing the same incident, even though taken from different angles.

(full article online)

Daily Mail Tries to Pass Off Old Video as Footage of Latest Gaza Death

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Peaceful.......very peaceful......Islamic style ]

The IDF stated that two attempts were made to infiltrate Israel from Gaza Sunday evening.

In the first incident, two terrorists were identified attempting to breach the fence in the southern Gaza Strip. IDF forces opened fire on the suspects, killing one of them. The other suspect was apprehended and taken for questioning by security forces.

In the second incident, two more terrorists breached the fence. The terrorists threw explosive devices at IDF forces stationed on the Israeli side of the fence. The IDF soldiers responded by opening fire, killing the two terrorists.

(full article online)

Multiple attempted infiltrations from Gaza: 3 terrorists killed

 

[Sixties Fan]

But neither of these understandings could budge her from the opinion that Israel’s use of live fire to protect its border with Gaza was appropriate or legitimate. “You don’t shoot people,” she kept coming back to. In other words, she believes that the IDF has the right and responsibility to arrest, detain and do whatever other non-lethal things it could to protect the people it defends from harm, but that shooting should be a last resort to be applied only when actual lives are in danger.

Now keep in mind that my interlocutor is a decent and moral person, as well as being highly intelligent. But as we went through a series of logic-based arguments regarding the difference between war and crime fighting, the fact that a majority of those killed were jihadi fighters, or nature of the Hamas regime and its primary role in creating Gaza’s misery, I was clearly unable to shake her of the belief that undergirded her primary response to current events: that you shouldn’t shoot people if you don’t have to.

And you know what? She’s right! In the ordinary course of life, and even in policing and warfare, you shouldn’t shoot people if other effective choices are available. But given that non-shooting options, like the construction of a separation barrier in the West Bank (which all but eliminated casualties from both terror and the fight against it) has become Exhibit A for the Israel = Apartheid propaganda slur, it’s not at all clear that promises to judge Israel less harshly if it does something to defend itself other than what it’s doing right now will ever be kept.

Getting back to Gaza, it continues to surprise me just how many false things one must believe to accept the anti-Israel narrative. For instance, images and video that incontestably show the violent nature of the Hamas-inspired marches is on display for all to see. But this must be put aside in order to declare the marches and the marchers “peaceful,” or non-violence must be redefined to make room for Molotov cocktails, incendiaries, swastikas, and the occasional live ammunition.

One must also believe that even if rocket fire and the digging of infiltration tunnels – the primary activity of those who govern Gaza – might be warlike, this new tactic (charging the border week after week) is peaceful.

(full article online)

The Price that Israel Critics Pay (Divest This!) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

The New York Times gave space to Fadi Abu Shammalah. He wrote an opinion piece called, Why I March in Gaza. First of all, let us look at who Abu Shammalah is: executive director of the General Union of Cultural Centers in Gaza. I find it interesting that there is a General Union of Cultural Centers (GUUC) in Gaza. After all, Gaza is often called an open-air prison, and it is compared with Warsaw Ghetto. I doubt there were cultural centers in the Ghetto; you know, places where kids learn to dance and do art, for example. But in 1997, well before the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, the GUUC was established, apparently with 52 cultural centers currently in Gaza and Judea & Samaria. Funny how the Gazans try to have it both ways – to claim they are under horrific Israeli occupation and blockade while at the same time showcasing cultural centers, five-star hotels and more.

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Let us parse this one, ok?

1. unarmed, direct, civilian-led mass action: burning tires, throwing Molotov cocktails and rocks, trying to take down the border-fence, and more are not activities generally characterizing unarmed demonstrations. Furthermore, Yediot Aharonot military correspondent, Alex Fishman, writes that when the demonstrations began, the Gazans were 700 meters from the fence and now they are a mere 100 meters away from it. Their goal is to knock the fence down and send a stream of Gazans into Israel to run amok. It all sounds rather not-civilian to me.
2. the march has unified the Palestinian people: this remains to be seen. According to PhD candidate Moran Stern, this is not at all true. He writes that the story of the Friday protests is more a story of the millions of Gazans who stayed at home rather than the small minority who came out.
3. the march is an effective way to highlight unbearable living conditions in Gaza: for the fact they have only four hours of electricity a day, they need to blame the PA that does not pay Israel for the electricity she provides.
4. the economy and borders under siege: Israel allowing the transport into Gaza of hundreds of tons daily of food, medicines and other products is not a siege. A siege is what happened to the Jews at Masada; it is what happened numerous times to the Jews in Jerusalem. Furthermore, immediately after the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, before Hamas started terrorizing Israelis living in the nearby communities, borders were open and people and goods moved freely in both directions. But hey! It is safer to blame Israel than Hamas, right?
5. fear of having one’s home bombed: if Hamas would not fire missiles at Israel from civilian homes, there would be no bombing of their homes.

(full article online)

Fadi is Marching in Gaza for His Kids - Israel Diaries

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Cutting the fence which protects a sovereign country is.......peaceful protest ....islamic style ]

In broadcast on Hamas's Al-Aqsa TV, masked man pledges: 'What was taken by force will be regained by force alone'; IDF says it thwarted mass bid to breach border on Friday

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Gaza ‘fence cutter unit’ vows to breach border, retake ‘occupied lands’

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Any questions as to what the "March of Return" is all about ? ]



When they say that there is "no alternative to return" they know, and their people know, exactly what that means.

Yasir Arafat said this about "return" in 1980: "Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations… We shall not rest until the day when we return to our home, and until we destroy Israel."

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PLO tells their people to keep resisting until Israel is destroyed via "return" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

The editorial opens:

First, the lethal narrative that Israel intentionally murders children is an ugly smear, one used by Palestinian propagandists and other who seek to demonise Israel, one which obfuscates Hamas’s cynical and illegal use of children as combatants. Further, the Guardian’s characterisation of the protest in question as “peaceful” is a flat-out lie. Whilst the circumstances of the Palestinian teen’s death are not yet clear, there’s no doubt that the 10,000 strong Palestinian protest that he participated in included the use of Molotov cocktails and other forms of violence – as well as attempts to damage the fence which protects southern Israeli communities from Hamas terrorists.

The editorial continues:

The first sentence is a non-sequitur. Whether or not the protesters were “armed” (as in, with firearms) is not the point. The question is whether other democracies faced with a similar threat on their border by a proscribed terrorist group would act differently. Would the US Border Control, for instance, not use lethal force if thousands of Mexicans aligned with a violent terror group attempted to cross the border into US territory? Would the US government ever even consider leaving US border cities vulnerable to an attack? For some perspective that the media has failed to provide, the last Gaza protest was less than one kilometer away from an Israeli kibbutz.

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‘The Guardian View’ on the Gaza protests: one of their worst editorials on Israel ever

 

[Mindful]

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[Sixties Fan]

To make sure everyone understood that the world’s only Jewish state behaved in ways that Jew-haters have always seen as characteristically evil, Amnesty posted another tweet echoing the medieval blood libel:

“Malicious tactics are being employed by the Israeli military who are deliberately using weapons of war to cause life-changing injuries to Palestinian protesters. Why are weapons still being sold to #Israel?”

On Facebook, where Amnesty has about two million followers, the organization shared the same posts.


And needless to say, there were not just social media posts, but also a lengthy statement under the title: “Israel: Arms embargo needed as military unlawfully kills and maims Gaza protesters.”
Just in case you were wondering: no, Amnesty doesn’t mention that Gaza’s Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar told a crowd of protesters near the border with Israel: “We will uproot the borders, we will pluck out their hearts, and we will pray in Jerusalem.” No word either about the fact that many of those killed were members of terror organizations; no word about the displays of swastikas (on Hitler’s birthday) or about the successful attempts to start fires across the border in Israel by releasing kites carrying burning rags or fire bombs.

(full article online)

Amnesty misses the good old times when Jews were defenseless (Petra Marquardt-Bigman) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

In Gaza, Hamas terrorists prepare firebomb kite for flight to Israel at the border.

Israeli farmers who are fighting against explosive kite terrorism in the Gaza Belt region will be recognized as “victims of hostile acts,” making them entitled to compensation under the property tax law.

Another “kite terror” attack was carried out on Monday by Gaza terrorists who sent kites with flaming firebombs (Molotov cocktails) flying over the security fence along the eastern section of the Gaza border into an Israeli agricultural field.

(full article online)

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye...-kites-as-victims-of-hostile-acts/2018/05/01/

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Real Motivation to Attack Israel

To claim, as he does, that Israel is “denying Gaza’s people the water, electricity, education, and food they need to live decent lives,” is grossly inaccurate to the point of being a vicious lie.

Israel provides water and electricity to Gaza despite the objections of Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Palestinian Authority. Abbas has adopted a concerted policy of attempting to starve the residents of Gaza who, through their governing body, the Hamas terror organization, refuse to acknowledge the leadership of Abbas and his corrupt Palestinian Authority.

As for education – the responsibility for education passed to the Palestinian Authority when the PLO entered into the Oslo Accords with Israel, and the sphere of education was transferred, lock, stock, and barrel, to the Palestinian administration governing Gaza, including the freedom to incite and to sow hatred and anti-Semitism against Israel and the Jews. Moreover, hundreds of millions of dollars are collected by the United Nations Relief and Welfare Agency (UNRWA) to teach, feed, and tend to Palestinian needs. All too often, UNRWA’s services are hijacked by Hamas.

As for food, Israel does not restrict the transfer of food into Gaza. In this context, Israel strictly abides by basic humanitarian norms preventing any action aimed at causing starvation. However, despite the over 500 trucks that enter Gaza every day from Israel with flour, rice, other foodstuffs, and even cement, Israel limits only those products that could be used for the construction of offensive tunnels or the production of rockets and other weapons. This is Israel’s legal prerogative that has even been recognized by the United Nations.



Tweet published on April 23 by COGAT, the Israeli body responsible for the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories


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Manipulating the Truth about Gaza

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Real Motivation to Attack Israel

To claim, as he does, that Israel is “denying Gaza’s people the water, electricity, education, and food they need to live decent lives,” is grossly inaccurate to the point of being a vicious lie.

Israel provides water and electricity to Gaza despite the objections of Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the Palestinian Authority. Abbas has adopted a concerted policy of attempting to starve the residents of Gaza who, through their governing body, the Hamas terror organization, refuse to acknowledge the leadership of Abbas and his corrupt Palestinian Authority.

As for education – the responsibility for education passed to the Palestinian Authority when the PLO entered into the Oslo Accords with Israel, and the sphere of education was transferred, lock, stock, and barrel, to the Palestinian administration governing Gaza, including the freedom to incite and to sow hatred and anti-Semitism against Israel and the Jews. Moreover, hundreds of millions of dollars are collected by the United Nations Relief and Welfare Agency (UNRWA) to teach, feed, and tend to Palestinian needs. All too often, UNRWA’s services are hijacked by Hamas.

As for food, Israel does not restrict the transfer of food into Gaza. In this context, Israel strictly abides by basic humanitarian norms preventing any action aimed at causing starvation. However, despite the over 500 trucks that enter Gaza every day from Israel with flour, rice, other foodstuffs, and even cement, Israel limits only those products that could be used for the construction of offensive tunnels or the production of rockets and other weapons. This is Israel’s legal prerogative that has even been recognized by the United Nations.



Tweet published on April 23 by COGAT, the Israeli body responsible for the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories


(full article online)

Manipulating the Truth about Gaza

What were the exports?

 

[Billo_Really]

If Israel is so humane, why won't they allow independent human rights activists in to the country to see for themselves the treatment of the Palestinians?

Most Unwelcome: Prominent US Human Rights Campaigners Denied Entry to Israel​

Israel’s denial of entry to foreign citizens must be seen in the context of its ongoing efforts to repress human rights activism within Israel and Palestine, and its regular denial of entry to Palestinians, including U.S. citizens of Palestinian origin. It has been 70 years since the mass killing and eviction of Palestinians by the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, 50 years of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and 11 years of its punitive closure of Gaza, whose residents have been shot and killed in nonviolent protests in recent weeks. Meanwhile, Israel continues to expand its West Bank settlements, annex East Jerusalem, and increase attacks on human rights defenders and incarceration of political prisoners.

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[Billo_Really]

What were the exports?

Israel doesn't allow shit into Gaza!

"...the present situation is dire as massive infrastructural failures cause daily hardship for the population, who are also at risk of epidemics. At the time of writing, with insufficient quantities of fuel reaching Gaza, electricity is available for only short periods, making it impossible for hospitals to provide proper treatment for seriously ill patients suffering from cancer and kidney ailments."​