Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[Sixties Fan]

Weekly Hamas-spurred protests along the Gaza-Israel border were called off Friday after a serious escalation overnight between Palestinian terrorists and Israel, organizers announced, the first time they have not been held in almost a year.

(full article online)

For first time in nearly a year, Hamas calls off weekly Gaza border protest

 

[P F Tinmore]

"RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, we've all heard this whining before.

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

In over a 100 years, the Arab Palestinians have not been able to take responsibility for their future and destiny in any fashion. They always need a responsible adult to look after their interests. They are not capable of making a decision on their own behalf.

How can Jordan renounce a claim to something they never had?

(COMMENT)

Between April 1950 "elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine. (SOURCE LINK) The decisions made in April 1950 by the Arab Palestinians, became known as the "Unification of the Two Banks." In the 38 years that followed the Arab Palestinians did not fight the annexation. On the contrary, the Arab Palestinians attempted to expand their control and forcibly bring down the Hashemite Kingdom. In the Seven decades since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Arab Palestinians had always claimed they were unable to establish their own self-governing institution.

There is a great difference between the reality of an actual establishment of control and the theoretical establishment of a self-governing institution.

Even the Gaza and Ramallah Governments (such as they are) which have been unable, totally incapable of bringing any kind of semblance of a honest government forward, has spent much of their time end fighting among themselves and being a disintegrated state where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government never had the necessary leadership to function properly.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

Stupid post.

What decisions can they make while under military occupation?

The only military occupation the Palestinians are under are their own military.

What? You are still not aware that Hamas and and other factions in Gaza have militaries, with weapons, uniforms and the whole thing which other militaries have?

But of course neither Israel nor Egypt (remember Egypt? ) will allow them to have planes and other nasty things to hit both countries with.

Remember the Muslim Brotherhood? Hamas is an offshoot of it.
And "normal" Muslims do not like the aggression and need to take over other Muslims territories, which Hamas is also into.

Hamas can make the decision to do away with the Charter for the destruction of Israel and CHOOSE PEACE.

Two very simple words, any government like Hamas .....and PLO....should eventually come to....

That is if only Qatar, the UN, EU and others stop drowning Gaza with money to build weapons and fire them at Israel.


Decision 1 : Good for all in Gaza....and areas A and B as well.


CHOOSE PEACE !!!!

More of the expected sidestepping and denial.

Why not offer a YouTube video showing Hamas and their silly fashion show parades with the islamic terrorist army (men in ski masks), dressed in military style uniforms? Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

Why don't we see the armed soldiers of your invented "country of Pal'istan" wearing their fasion show uniforms when attacking the israeli border?

Why is the "country of Pal'istan" sending (and paying) civilians to riot at the border gee-had when Hamas has a military (with uniforms), they could muster at the border? In view of the hero status that Hamas and the PA slather on civilians who die while in the service of attacking Jews, one would think that there must be a willingness on the part of the Hamas and PA leadership to lead a military charge at the israeli border.

Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

No uniforms, no flags, no guns.

Strange jihad, what?

 

[Sixties Fan]

"RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, we've all heard this whining before.

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

In over a 100 years, the Arab Palestinians have not been able to take responsibility for their future and destiny in any fashion. They always need a responsible adult to look after their interests. They are not capable of making a decision on their own behalf.

(COMMENT)

Between April 1950 "elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine. (SOURCE LINK) The decisions made in April 1950 by the Arab Palestinians, became known as the "Unification of the Two Banks." In the 38 years that followed the Arab Palestinians did not fight the annexation. On the contrary, the Arab Palestinians attempted to expand their control and forcibly bring down the Hashemite Kingdom. In the Seven decades since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Arab Palestinians had always claimed they were unable to establish their own self-governing institution.

There is a great difference between the reality of an actual establishment of control and the theoretical establishment of a self-governing institution.

Even the Gaza and Ramallah Governments (such as they are) which have been unable, totally incapable of bringing any kind of semblance of a honest government forward, has spent much of their time end fighting among themselves and being a disintegrated state where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government never had the necessary leadership to function properly.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

Stupid post.

What decisions can they make while under military occupation?

The only military occupation the Palestinians are under are their own military.

What? You are still not aware that Hamas and and other factions in Gaza have militaries, with weapons, uniforms and the whole thing which other militaries have?

But of course neither Israel nor Egypt (remember Egypt? ) will allow them to have planes and other nasty things to hit both countries with.

Remember the Muslim Brotherhood? Hamas is an offshoot of it.
And "normal" Muslims do not like the aggression and need to take over other Muslims territories, which Hamas is also into.

Hamas can make the decision to do away with the Charter for the destruction of Israel and CHOOSE PEACE.

Two very simple words, any government like Hamas .....and PLO....should eventually come to....

That is if only Qatar, the UN, EU and others stop drowning Gaza with money to build weapons and fire them at Israel.


Decision 1 : Good for all in Gaza....and areas A and B as well.


CHOOSE PEACE !!!!

More of the expected sidestepping and denial.

Why not offer a YouTube video showing Hamas and their silly fashion show parades with the islamic terrorist army (men in ski masks), dressed in military style uniforms? Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

Why don't we see the armed soldiers of your invented "country of Pal'istan" wearing their fasion show uniforms when attacking the israeli border?

Why is the "country of Pal'istan" sending (and paying) civilians to riot at the border gee-had when Hamas has a military (with uniforms), they could muster at the border? In view of the hero status that Hamas and the PA slather on civilians who die while in the service of attacking Jews, one would think that there must be a willingness on the part of the Hamas and PA leadership to lead a military charge at the israeli border.

Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

No uniforms, no flags, no guns.

Strange jihad, what?

Here is their flag:




From 2014, look at all of those guns, uniforms.
Kids parading with guns.
What a great world they live in

 

[Mindful]

Concerning the Border. A clear and present danger.


Iran Inches Closer to its Goal: "Wipe Israel off the Map"
by Majid Rafizadeh •

• As Iran's theocratic establishment believes that the Supreme Leader is Allah's representative on earth, whatever words or desires the Supreme Leader utters are considered Allah's wishes, which must be brought to life by Allah's true believers.
  
  
• Iran has built, or is in the process of building, more than 10 military bases in Syria, some of which are near the Israeli border.
  
  
• When will the international community begin to take the Iranian's government clear verbal threats and physical aggression seriously? Or would the international community secretly like to see Israel destroyed, under Europe's Orwellian inversion of words: "the peace process"?
  

 

[Hollie]

"RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, we've all heard this whining before.

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

In over a 100 years, the Arab Palestinians have not been able to take responsibility for their future and destiny in any fashion. They always need a responsible adult to look after their interests. They are not capable of making a decision on their own behalf.

(COMMENT)

Between April 1950 "elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine. (SOURCE LINK) The decisions made in April 1950 by the Arab Palestinians, became known as the "Unification of the Two Banks." In the 38 years that followed the Arab Palestinians did not fight the annexation. On the contrary, the Arab Palestinians attempted to expand their control and forcibly bring down the Hashemite Kingdom. In the Seven decades since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Arab Palestinians had always claimed they were unable to establish their own self-governing institution.

There is a great difference between the reality of an actual establishment of control and the theoretical establishment of a self-governing institution.

Even the Gaza and Ramallah Governments (such as they are) which have been unable, totally incapable of bringing any kind of semblance of a honest government forward, has spent much of their time end fighting among themselves and being a disintegrated state where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government never had the necessary leadership to function properly.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians make decisions and then when the outcome and consequences are not to their liking, the make a complaint saying that they were (somehow) at a disadvantage.

Stupid post.

What decisions can they make while under military occupation?

The only military occupation the Palestinians are under are their own military.

What? You are still not aware that Hamas and and other factions in Gaza have militaries, with weapons, uniforms and the whole thing which other militaries have?

But of course neither Israel nor Egypt (remember Egypt? ) will allow them to have planes and other nasty things to hit both countries with.

Remember the Muslim Brotherhood? Hamas is an offshoot of it.
And "normal" Muslims do not like the aggression and need to take over other Muslims territories, which Hamas is also into.

Hamas can make the decision to do away with the Charter for the destruction of Israel and CHOOSE PEACE.

Two very simple words, any government like Hamas .....and PLO....should eventually come to....

That is if only Qatar, the UN, EU and others stop drowning Gaza with money to build weapons and fire them at Israel.


Decision 1 : Good for all in Gaza....and areas A and B as well.


CHOOSE PEACE !!!!

More of the expected sidestepping and denial.

Why not offer a YouTube video showing Hamas and their silly fashion show parades with the islamic terrorist army (men in ski masks), dressed in military style uniforms? Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

Why don't we see the armed soldiers of your invented "country of Pal'istan" wearing their fasion show uniforms when attacking the israeli border?

Why is the "country of Pal'istan" sending (and paying) civilians to riot at the border gee-had when Hamas has a military (with uniforms), they could muster at the border? In view of the hero status that Hamas and the PA slather on civilians who die while in the service of attacking Jews, one would think that there must be a willingness on the part of the Hamas and PA leadership to lead a military charge at the israeli border.

Isn't it strange that your islamic terrorist heroes somehow find uniforms for fashion show parades but they dont wear those uniforms at the border gee-had war they are fighting.

No uniforms, no flags, no guns.

Strange jihad, what?

Indeed, dead Hamas gee-had wannabes followed by Hamas fashion shows in uniforms, Arabs-Moslems waving flags with Nazi swastika’s and gunfire from the mini-caliphate of Yahys’istan.

Indeed, strange gee-had. You were in the depths of a coma not to notice?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Mindful, et al,

I think that there is a basket full of "food for political-military" thought here. And it is a dilemma in the making.

Concerning the Border. A clear and present danger.
Iran Inches Closer to its Goal: "Wipe Israel off the Map"
by Majid Rafizadeh •

• As Iran's theocratic establishment believes that the Supreme Leader is Allah's representative on earth, whatever words or desires the Supreme Leader utters are considered Allah's wishes, which must be brought to life by Allah's true believers.
  
  
• Iran has built, or is in the process of building, more than 10 military bases in Syria, some of which are near the Israeli border.
  
  
• When will the international community begin to take the Iranian's government clear verbal threats and physical aggression seriously? Or would the international community secretly like to see Israel destroyed, under Europe's Orwellian inversion of words: "the peace process"?

(COMMENT)

◈ Political Fear is political perception induced by perceived danger used in a coercive fashion.

◈ A threat (from a state or non-state actor) is a political anxiety induced by the actual presentation of the ware with all (the proven ability) → that a reasonable government or organization would conclude is a source of imminent harm or injury.​

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It is not what Iran does that is the problem; but rather, what others perceive the outcome of what they do will be. In 1967, when Egypt displaced the Peacekeeper and rushed 100,000 troops and 1000 tanks to the border, the Israelis determined that the "risk" of war was too great. This trigger the Six-Day War.

When the Tzar sent the Russian Army to the Border, that was a strong contributing factor to war.

If you tower over me, and I fear for my life, you might scare me into preemptively shooting you to keep from happening what I think will be a beating.

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What Egypt did, what the Tzar did and what you did may have merely been an attempt at political-military coercion (entirely legal from one viewpoint). But what was perceived as the face of "fear' and the "credible threat" → that trigger which caused the unintended consequence (war or conflict).

Just like in the case of a deadly assault, it is justifiable if you are in fear of your life. The International Political equivalency of this is preemptive military action. And while the world understands "justifiable homicide," it demonizes preemptive military action.

At the international level, a peacekeeper is a form of war/conflict preemption. Rules #96-#97 pertaining to hostages and human shields is a near-term diversion from an imminent engagement or battle.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ Mindful, et al,

I think that there is a basket full of "food for political-military" thought here. And it is a dilemma in the making.

Concerning the Border. A clear and present danger.
Iran Inches Closer to its Goal: "Wipe Israel off the Map"
by Majid Rafizadeh •

• As Iran's theocratic establishment believes that the Supreme Leader is Allah's representative on earth, whatever words or desires the Supreme Leader utters are considered Allah's wishes, which must be brought to life by Allah's true believers.
  
  
• Iran has built, or is in the process of building, more than 10 military bases in Syria, some of which are near the Israeli border.
  
  
• When will the international community begin to take the Iranian's government clear verbal threats and physical aggression seriously? Or would the international community secretly like to see Israel destroyed, under Europe's Orwellian inversion of words: "the peace process"?

(COMMENT)

◈ Political Fear is political perception induced by perceived danger used in a coercive fashion.

◈ A threat (from a state or non-state actor) is a political anxiety induced by the actual presentation of the ware with all (the proven ability) → that a reasonable government or organization would conclude is a source of imminent harm or injury.​

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
​

It is not what Iran does that is the problem; but rather, what others perceive the outcome of what they do will be. In 1967, when Egypt displaced the Peacekeeper and rushed 100,000 troops and 1000 tanks to the border, the Israelis determined that the "risk" of war was too great. This trigger the Six-Day War.

When the Tzar sent the Russian Army to the Border, that was a strong contributing factor to war.

If you tower over me, and I fear for my life, you might scare me into preemptively shooting you to keep from happening what I think will be a beating.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
​

What Egypt did, what the Tzar did and what you did may have merely been an attempt at political-military coercion (entirely legal from one viewpoint). But what was perceived as the face of "fear' and the "credible threat" → that trigger which caused the unintended consequence (war or conflict).

Just like in the case of a deadly assault, it is justifiable if you are in fear of your life. The International Political equivalency of this is preemptive military action. And while the world understands "justifiable homicide," it demonizes preemptive military action.

At the international level, a peacekeeper is a form of war/conflict preemption. Rules #96-#97 pertaining to hostages and human shields is a near-term diversion from an imminent engagement or battle.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, my impression is that Iran has every intention of fomenting a conflict with Israel that will quickly escalate. Their history since 1979 has been one defined by antagonism to Israel (and the Great Satan), and the Mullahs clearly state their intentions toward Israel. A conflict that Iran starts in Syria presents an Iranian opportunity as the nation of Iran has a small measure of safety from retaliatory attacks from Israel by sheer distance from the conflict. Although, Iranian attacks from Syria would, I suspect, cause Israel to employ its F-35’s to strike Iran directly.

As we saw with the absolutely brutal 8 year long slugfest that Iran fought with Iraq, the mullahs have no hesitation about making sacrificial lambs of their military or their civilian population. An Iranian initiated war would likely involve Hezbollah and as they did in 2006, would wage war from Lebanese cities and attempt to draw Israel into attacking civilian areas.

The Lebanese government seems to have little control over Hezbollah so they would be a second arm of the Iranian military.

I don’t see any of the Arab nations in the region stepping in to fight alongside the Iranians so the war may be just another drubbing of Lebanon and targets in Iran being flattened.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Time to end this terrorism ]

Hand grenade attached to model plane found along highway near Gaza

 

[Sixties Fan]

The supposedly civilian and spontaneous border ‘protests’ are a charade, a propaganda event, turned on and off by Hamas like a spigot. It’s deadly Pallywood.

(full article online)

Nothing happened at Gaza border today, proving Hamas completely controls the 'Great March of Return'

 

[Sixties Fan]

Gaza terrorists adding polystyrene planes to their methods of delivering explosives to Israel ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Look !!! Palestinians feeling at "home" again....]

Images posted on social media show demonstrators setting off small explosions, lighting tires on fire and pointing lasers at Israeli security forces




(full article online)

Palestinians in Gaza resume night time border protests
https://twitter.com/PalinfoAr

 

[Hollie]

It looks like Hamas wants to increase its presence at the border
gee-had.

Hamas to Escalate Nighttime Riots and Weekend Protests Along Gaza Border

Hamas to escalate nighttime riots and weekend protests along Gaza border

Officials announce move after Egyptian security delegation says Israel unable to meet the organizations' demands ■ Organizers of weekly border demonstrations urge more Gazans to participate

Jack Khoury
18.03.2019 | 22:14
Hamas officials announced Monday that the organization is planning on increasing nighttime activities on the border, in addition to ramping up the tension in the weekly "Great March of Return" protests.

This comes after Egyptian security officials who visited the Gaza Strip told Hamas that Israel is unable to meet Hamas' demands for calm.

Hamas' main goal is a significant easing of Israel's blockade on Gaza. Last week, a Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine official in Gaza told Haaretz that Israel is willing to make certain concessions, but Hamas' activity on the border will not stop until an agreement has been reached.

 

[Sixties Fan]

· Mar 16, 2019

Replying to @rafsanchez
Hamas is reportedly staging its own demonstration against Abbas now, in an apparent effort to divert public anger in Gaza.

In a widely-shared video from Gaza, a mother rails against Hamas.

“Our sons and daughters have lost 12 years of their lives. For what? Each son of a Hamas official owns an apartment, a car, a jeep, a building...While our sons have nothing at all."

7:14 AM - Mar 18, 2019



(vide video online - scroll down)

03/19 Links Pt1: Cruz, Military Experts Slam U.N. Report Suggesting Israel Committed War Crimes Responding to Gaza Border Riots; The Perpetrator of Sunday’s Terror Attack Was No Lone Wolf ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Billo_Really]

Who has, then?

Doesn't matter. All that matters is, it isn't Israel's.

 

[Billo_Really]

Are you saying that Israel SHOULD be going into Gaza to arrest people? What happened to your frequent comment that Israel has no right to step intoned gaza territory?

And rules justified by whom? What criteria do they use for "justified"?

I'm saying Israel shouldn't be shooting innocent, unarmed civilians.

 

[Billo_Really]

Why do you deny the intent of the Islamic border riots (to “rip the hearts out of the Jews”), and the right of the Israelis to protect themselves?

Hamas has a graduated pay scale for the vacant-minded wannabe border crashes who took one for the cause. Who are you to define how the wannabes make a few bucks?

You're lying again.

 

[Billo_Really]

I guess the Israeli police can rely on you to direct traffic when they enter the Islamic terrorist enclave to arrest islsmic terrorists.

You just keep shoveling bullshit.

 

[Hollie]

Why do you deny the intent of the Islamic border riots (to “rip the hearts out of the Jews”), and the right of the Israelis to protect themselves?

Hamas has a graduated pay scale for the vacant-minded wannabe border crashes who took one for the cause. Who are you to define how the wannabes make a few bucks?

You're lying again.

Not at all. You can do a quick search and find the fact for yourself.

 

[Hollie]

I guess the Israeli police can rely on you to direct traffic when they enter the Islamic terrorist enclave to arrest islsmic terrorists.

You just keep shoveling bullshit.

Don’t let your hurt feelings get in the way.

 

[Hollie]

Are you saying that Israel SHOULD be going into Gaza to arrest people? What happened to your frequent comment that Israel has no right to step intoned gaza territory?

And rules justified by whom? What criteria do they use for "justified"?

I'm saying Israel shouldn't be shooting innocent, unarmed civilians.

You made no case to support your claim that Israel is shooting innocent, unarmed civilians.