Palestinians demand return of "their" heritage -- Dead Sea Scolls

Christian, Christians? :lmao:

OMG, that sqiawlomg parrot does go on and on and on. His owners must have tied him to his perch that by now he is getting hemorrhoids.

Why don't we ask the Messianic Jews what they feel should be done with the scrolls since petty people can't seem to let go of this topic here? It seems to be killing them that Israel will get something. Before you know it, they will drag it up to over 1000 posts.


I know it's so unbelievable but incredibly hilarious. :biggrin:

What is hilarious is your claim that Christian historical documents belong to your mythical Jewish Christians.

You are lacking in knowledge.

Now that's funny. Where do these Jewish Christians live these days?


Why don't you go look that up and then get back to us for a real discussion. :)
 
OMG, that sqiawlomg parrot does go on and on and on. His owners must have tied him to his perch that by now he is getting hemorrhoids.

Why don't we ask the Messianic Jews what they feel should be done with the scrolls since petty people can't seem to let go of this topic here? It seems to be killing them that Israel will get something. Before you know it, they will drag it up to over 1000 posts.


I know it's so unbelievable but incredibly hilarious. :biggrin:

What is hilarious is your claim that Christian historical documents belong to your mythical Jewish Christians.

You are lacking in knowledge.

Now that's funny. Where do these Jewish Christians live these days?


Why don't you go look that up and then get back to us for a real discussion. :)

LOL. So, I should look up where these Jewish Christians live.
 
I know it's so unbelievable but incredibly hilarious. :biggrin:

What is hilarious is your claim that Christian historical documents belong to your mythical Jewish Christians.

You are lacking in knowledge.

Now that's funny. Where do these Jewish Christians live these days?


Why don't you go look that up and then get back to us for a real discussion. :)

LOL. So, I should look up where these Jewish Christians live.






YUUUP and see how stupid you look on here
 
Nice, seems the first time we agree.

However... hmm interesting how do the scrolls call that area?

Should we place them in Judea or West Bank, ירושלים or Al Quds?
Wherever the Palestinian government deems fit, I should imagine.

You avoided my question- what do the scrolls call the area they originated from? Do they tell the story of Palestine or of Israel and Judea?
At the time, Palestine was a province of Rome.

Could You quote from the scrolls themselves, where they call the area Palestine?

Since the scrolls describe the Jewish equivalent of Tolkein's Middle Earth, it's not likely you'd find real locations described. ;)

That said, the modern day Palestinians have a greater link to the locations mentioned than the modern day European colonists who need them to somehow "legitimise" their existance.

This argument is pointless, since the territorial description of the area in the scrolls is very detailed and accurate. Places like Beer Sheba, Hebron, Gat, Megiddo and Jerusalem to name a few.
However still no Al Quds or palestine and not one word in Arabic.

Jews were as much Palestinians as their Arab neighbors. Many have established long standing communities in the Galilee, Jerusalem, Hebron and other areas long before the Zionist political movement. Therefore as You said the palestinians have a great connection to those locations- Palestinian Jews- no less. And them being Israeli citizens, Hebrew speakers and keepers of the heritage of the scrolls, makes it perfect justice for those Palestinian Jews, that the scrolls are held by Israel.

If You claim Palestinians have a connection, You can't deny it to the Palestinian Jews living in Israel.
 
You avoided my question- what do the scrolls call the area they originated from? Do they tell the story of Palestine or of Israel and Judea?
At the time, Palestine was a province of Rome.

Could You quote from the scrolls themselves, where they call the area Palestine?
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?
 
basically all things jewish and christian are considered holy to muslims

Possibly true. But recognition of the value or holiness of someone else's cultural heritage does not make it your cultural heritage nor does it give you leave to appropriate it.
The Dead Sea Scrolls is part of everyone's heritage, not only Israelis.
sure but so is van gogh's or michealangelos artwork, and if millions of people were murdering eachother and cutting eachothers heads off in the desert, over who was the better painter, or who gets to "keep" one of van goghs paintings in their country you probably would burn it yourself wouldn't you?
That's not how reasonable people view these issues. Your grasp of history, and religion, is sadly skewed by your mental illness.
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

Again Jews were as much Palestinians as other people. When You advocate for Palestinian connection You're talking about Jews too.
Since the Jews are the keepers of the language, heritage and culture of the scrolls and since many Palestinian Jews are citizens of Israel, the scrolls have no better location and treatment than in Israel.
 
At the time, Palestine was a province of Rome.

Could You quote from the scrolls themselves, where they call the area Palestine?
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

The guardianship of a cultural heritage belongs to those who are of that cultural heritage. Seriously, its not rocket science. How can you possibly not understand this most obvious of facts?
 
basically all things jewish and christian are considered holy to muslims

Possibly true. But recognition of the value or holiness of someone else's cultural heritage does not make it your cultural heritage nor does it give you leave to appropriate it.
The Dead Sea Scrolls is part of everyone's heritage, not only Israelis.
sure but so is van gogh's or michealangelos artwork, and if millions of people were murdering eachother and cutting eachothers heads off in the desert, over who was the better painter, or who gets to "keep" one of van goghs paintings in their country you probably would burn it yourself wouldn't you?
That's not how reasonable people view these issues. Your grasp of history, and religion, is sadly skewed by your mental illness.
Oddly enough, I would not give the time of day to a stranger who accuses me of having a mental illness. You will not hear from me again.
 
Could You quote from the scrolls themselves, where they call the area Palestine?
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.

This Board is not a Master's thesis that need citations. There is such a concept known as Common Knowledge, and another known as Common Sense. Since more than 70% of the Scrolls are fragments either of the Hebrew bible (known to Christians as the Old Testament) and/or the Apocrypha, then there could be no doubt that the works in question refer to the area as either Israel or Judah. Sometimes the area is called Canaan. Have you never read the Old Testament? It seems not. The works were found in the Judean Desert. They are mostly in Hebrew, not in Arabic. The Palestinians are just trying to erase all Jewish connection to the Land.
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

Again Jews were as much Palestinians as other people. When You advocate for Palestinian connection You're talking about Jews too.
Since the Jews are the keepers of the language, heritage and culture of the scrolls and since many Palestinian Jews are citizens of Israel, the scrolls have no better location and treatment than in Israel.

The Zionists that conquered Palestine were Europeans and the Sephardic are from Spain, Portugal and North Africa and their genetic connection to the people that wrote scrolls is minimal for the former and far less than that of the Palestinians for the latter. The scrolls were found in the West Bank I understand, they should remain in the West Bank and should belong to the closest descendants of the people who wrote them, regardless of what religion the closest descendants adopted.
 
Could You quote from the scrolls themselves, where they call the area Palestine?
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.

C'mon You need scholary sources to understand that scrolls of Bible written in Hebrew have direct connections to Israeli Jews and Christians?

The scrolls have much deeper past than last century, and it leads it directly to Jews.
Tell me is Hebrew, Torah, Jewish culture or Jews anyhow represented or respected in Arab Palestinian govt? Or any any Arab country, as Arab culture represented in Israel?
 
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.

This Board is not a Master's thesis that need citations. There is such a concept known as Common Knowledge, and another known as Common Sense. Since more than 70% of the Scrolls are fragments either of the Hebrew bible (known to Christians as the Old Testament) and/or the Apocrypha, then there could be no doubt that the works in question refer to the area as either Israel or Judah. Sometimes the area is called Canaan. Have you never read the Old Testament? It seems not. The works were found in the Judean Desert. They are mostly in Hebrew, not in Arabic. The Palestinians are just trying to erase all Jewish connection to the Land.
I have never come across the notion that the Palestinians want to erase all Jewish connection with the Holy Land. I do know that the corollary is true that Israelis have erased all Arabic names and sometimes villages themselves is an effort to prove that Arab Palestinians were never there and have no claim on any part of Israel and now many parts of the Occupied Territories.
 
I'm sorry; I do not have a copy of the Scrolls.

Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.

C'mon You need scholary sources to understand that scrolls of Bible written in Hebrew have direct connections to Israeli Jews and Christians?

The scrolls have much deeper past than last century, and it leads it directly to Jews.
Tell me is Hebrew, Torah, Jewish culture or Jews anyhow represented or respected in Arab Palestinian govt? Or any any Arab country, as Arab culture represented in Israel?
I would like a citation or two that Qumran is always referred to in the Dead Sea Scrolls as Judea; yes.
I recall staying for a while in Morocco and met there a friendly Jewish shopkeeper whom I would visit on trips to the town. The impression I had was that she and her family lived unmolested by the government or anyone else. Jews have lived in the West Bank for thousands of years, as have Christians, and more latterly, converts to Islam. I hope that can happen again but it cannot be so unless Israel ends its Zionist occupation or forsake the sectarian nature of Israel as an exclusively Jewish state.
 
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How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

Again Jews were as much Palestinians as other people. When You advocate for Palestinian connection You're talking about Jews too.
Since the Jews are the keepers of the language, heritage and culture of the scrolls and since many Palestinian Jews are citizens of Israel, the scrolls have no better location and treatment than in Israel.

The Zionists that conquered Palestine were Europeans and the Sephardic are from Spain, Portugal and North Africa and their genetic connection to the people that wrote scrolls is minimal for the former and far less than that of the Palestinians for the latter. The scrolls were found in the West Bank I understand, they should remain in the West Bank and should belong to the closest descendants of the people who wrote them, regardless of what religion the closest descendants adopted.

However Israeli Jews, be them Sephardi, Yemenite, Iraqi or Ashkenazi are still the only people who study this scrolls and their heritage daily in the most secular schools. Like they did for thousands of years no matter here they were expelled to.

Even if Your theory was correct, You conveniently forget the Jews that lived in Palestine, to whom the European and Middle Eastern Jews later rejoined.


Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.681385
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

Again Jews were as much Palestinians as other people. When You advocate for Palestinian connection You're talking about Jews too.
Since the Jews are the keepers of the language, heritage and culture of the scrolls and since many Palestinian Jews are citizens of Israel, the scrolls have no better location and treatment than in Israel.

The Zionists that conquered Palestine were Europeans and the Sephardic are from Spain, Portugal and North Africa and their genetic connection to the people that wrote scrolls is minimal for the former and far less than that of the Palestinians for the latter. The scrolls were found in the West Bank I understand, they should remain in the West Bank and should belong to the closest descendants of the people who wrote them, regardless of what religion the closest descendants adopted.

However Israeli Jews, be them Sephardi, Yemenite, Iraqi or Ashkenazi are still the only people who study this scrolls and their heritage daily in the most secular schools. Like they did for thousands of years no matter here they were expelled to.

Even if Your theory was correct, You conveniently forget the Jews that lived in Palestine, to whom the European and Middle Eastern Jews later rejoined.


Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.681385
The vast majority of Israelis owe their ancestry to Middle and Eastern Europe. There is no sense in which a Russian Jew who immigrates to the Occupied Territories and as soldiers humiliate and kill indigenous Palestinians are "rejoining" anyone.
 
Of course You have, it's as far away as a click on a mouse.
Here: http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah
they even have English translation of each verse.

The 1st verse says:
Chapter 1 : Verse 1

"The vision of Isaiah son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Yehizqiyah, kings of Judah."

Translation: Professor Peter Flint (Western Trinity University, Canada) and Professor Eugene Ulrich (University of Notre Dame).

Now that You have resources available, if You find 'Al Quds' or 'Palestine' in there let me know.
Yes, Palestine was called Judea during the writing of some of the scrolls. I said as much. At the same time, I do not want to give time to studying Jewish scriptures, if you don't mind. You see, i think it is all hocus pocus.

Yes, but the Jews AND THE SCROLLS still called it Judea- for 2000 years. Even the Romans did for a hundred or so years before the revolts.

You don't have to be a detective or "study" the scriptures to see the unquestionable connection between Israel and these scrolls.
Palestinians and the original Philistines are clearly the enemies of everything these scrolls stand for.

Do You know who stole the Ark of the Covenant according to the scrolls?
No, I would fail your test on the mythical Ark of the Covenant.
Most people do not know if Judea was the only name given to the region in the scrolls dating over hundreds of years and you must understand that in discussions like this, without scholarly citations, it is asking us to take your word alone.
What is of paramount significance is that the scrolls were discovered in the modern state of Palestine and should be in the care of the Palestinians. It has to be borne in mind, however, that Palestine is under constant siege and brutal occupation by the Israelis so nothing and no-one is safe there.

C'mon You need scholary sources to understand that scrolls of Bible written in Hebrew have direct connections to Israeli Jews and Christians?

The scrolls have much deeper past than last century, and it leads it directly to Jews.
Tell me is Hebrew, Torah, Jewish culture or Jews anyhow represented or respected in Arab Palestinian govt? Or any any Arab country, as Arab culture represented in Israel?
I would like a citation or two that Qumran is always referred to in the Dead Sea Scrolls as Judea; yes.
I recall staying for a while in Morocco and met there a friendly Jewish shopkeeper whom I would visit on trips to the town. The impression I had was that she and her family lived unmolested by the government or anyone else. Jews have lived in the West Bank for thousands of years, as have Christians, and more latterly, converts to Islam. I hope that can happen again but it cannot be so unless Israel ends its Zionist occupation or forsake the sectarian nature of Israel as an exclusively Jewish state.

Are You lazy on google today?
Search for the borders of Judea tribe in the Torah, match with the maps- done.

I've already given You enough crushing evidences.
No need to address all this speculation and deflection.
I'm not going to change the course and the subject every time You avoid straight questions.

I have thousands of years of residence, heritage and learning from such scriptures.
You have speculation relying on recent modern political games.
 
How can the Palestinian Muslims and Christians, many of whose ancestors previously practiced Judaism and are the native indigenous people of Palestine have less right to the documents than people whose whose ancestors are from other continents?

Again Jews were as much Palestinians as other people. When You advocate for Palestinian connection You're talking about Jews too.
Since the Jews are the keepers of the language, heritage and culture of the scrolls and since many Palestinian Jews are citizens of Israel, the scrolls have no better location and treatment than in Israel.

The Zionists that conquered Palestine were Europeans and the Sephardic are from Spain, Portugal and North Africa and their genetic connection to the people that wrote scrolls is minimal for the former and far less than that of the Palestinians for the latter. The scrolls were found in the West Bank I understand, they should remain in the West Bank and should belong to the closest descendants of the people who wrote them, regardless of what religion the closest descendants adopted.

However Israeli Jews, be them Sephardi, Yemenite, Iraqi or Ashkenazi are still the only people who study this scrolls and their heritage daily in the most secular schools. Like they did for thousands of years no matter here they were expelled to.

Even if Your theory was correct, You conveniently forget the Jews that lived in Palestine, to whom the European and Middle Eastern Jews later rejoined.


Blood Brothers: Palestinians and Jews Share Genetic Roots
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.681385

News reports generally fail to dig deep into scientific studies.

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East..... Jews have traditionally considered that the mother determines the ethnic identity of her children. If being Jewish is defined as genetically descending from the Israelites through the maternal line, then many Ashkenazi Jews fail the test,"

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy



Look, if descendants of European converts to Judaism feel Jewish, though they are not ethnically such, that's fine with me. But to oppress the descendants of the people that are the real descendants of the native people of Palestine, many of whose ancestors practiced Judaism (among other religions), because of their current religion does not make sense to me.
 
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