Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[P F Tinmore]

Amid Deadly Israeli Crackdown on Gaza Protests, Chomsky Says U.S. Must End Support for “Murderers”

 

[Hollie]

Amid Deadly Israeli Crackdown on Gaza Protests, Chomsky Says U.S. Must End Support for “Murderers”

I suggest you email Chomsky, Fatah and Hamas. Those entities need to have a discussion about their support for Islamic terrorist murderers.

Thanks. Please cc us on your email.

 

[rylah]

A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips

Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.

So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...

Hamas court says women need a male guardian's approval to travel

A Hamas-run Islamic court in the Gaza Strip has ruled that women require the permission of a male guardian to travel.

www.latimes.com

Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

Don't give me your pathetic excuses,
just admit you love Hamas and want to execute gays in the main square.

I get it, another touchy subject you just don't want us to address.
But we were discussing Hamas in response to your post...

Wasn't it your "I love Hamas" post here?

Why so shy now?

Thanks for reminding me. This was a great interview.



Who was Israel's boogyman before there was Hamas?

Of course, Israelis always slander only the most liberal Jew-loving Jihadists on the planet.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad even fight for the rights of each in the LGBTQ community -
to have an equal opportunity for a city square with the gallows in their favorite color!

Even Nancy Pelosi knows that Hamas fits better
to lead her party into a more progressive future...

 

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Except for Palestine: The Limits of Progressive Politics

 

[P F Tinmore]

P&P Live! Marc Lamont Hill and Mitchell Plitnick | EXCEPT FOR PALESTINE with Michelle Alexander

 

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Live with Tariq Ali: Edward Said and a Vision for Palestine

 

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Can We Talk About Israel Without Shouting? Prof. Peter Beinart Interviewed by R' Shmuly Yanklowitz

 

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[Hollie]

What passes for "scholar" in the Islamic terrorist enclave occupied by Pally's is a bit foreign to westerners.



Palestinian Scholar: If Muslims Want to Live in Peace and Security, They Must Get Rid of the Jews

 

[rylah]

So what does it say about the intentions of a poster who defends Hamas on a daily basis,
and then shouts "heil Hamas, Jews to the gas!" calling it 'valid criticism of Israel'?

Thanks for proving once again you lie knowingly
when claiming not to target Jews collectively.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How The New York Times rigs news on Israel Palestine - James North

 

[P F Tinmore]

FMEP & MEI Congressional Briefing Series on Israel-Palestine: Free Speech & the Right to Protest

 

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Legislating Against Criticism of Israel – the Ongoing Assault on Americans’ Free Speech

 

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Imagining the Way(s) Forward: PART 1 - Palestinian Thought Leaders



Imagining the Way(s) Forward - Part 2: Jewish-Israeli Thought Leaders

 

[P F Tinmore]

Ilan Pappe & Diana Buttu: What Next for Palestine?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Hatefest
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: This is anything but objective. I could only stand about 30 minutes before the gag reflex took over.

Ilan Pappe & Diana Buttu: What Next for Palestine?

(COMMENT)

The presentation starts-off (right out of the box) with the narrator:

• Gaza is being bombed right now → with no mention of what the bombing was in response to - the cause.​

• That the (undefined Palestinians) are under siege.​

• Ethnic Cleasing as planed in 1948.​

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◈ Ms Buttu begins with → "Israel is extinguishing the Arab Palestinians" mantra.​

✦ How terrible it is in "Palestine."​

✦ How the Israeli Plan is to get as much Palestinian land as they can, with as few as possible Palestinians.​

✦ That the (President) Biden Administration is:​

✧ Not going to move the embassy back to Tel Aviv.​

✧ Is not going to reverse its decision on the recognition of the Golan Heights annexation.​

✦ That the (President) Biden Administration is: ​

✧ Probably going to reverse the recognition of the Palestine Liberation Organization's (PLO) office as a de facto embassy for the Palestinian people.​

✧ Probably re-establish funding to the Palestinian Authority (PA).​

Ms Buttu mentions how the Bilateral Agreement is a failed model with was doomed to fail from its inception. And she thinks that the Arab Palestinian reestablishment of in Security Cooperation will help Mahmoud Abbas maintain control as the President of State of Palestine. That maybe this the renewed relationship in the Security Cooperation will be sufficient to delay elections once again.

◈ Ilan Pappe opens his oratory with:​

✦ How he agrees with everything Ms Buttu said, and how dismal the conditions are on West Bank and Gaza Strip.​

✦ He makes another glancing blow a half-century of occupation is simply a derivative of Israeli evil intentions.​

✦ That the "assault" on the West Bank today is more dangerous than the Nakba.​

✦ Isreal has the strongest military in the Region​

✧ Israels Policies are never criticized​

✧ Israel is operating under immunity for everything.​

✧ Israel seems totally free to bomb Gaza at will.​

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◈ And then Ilan Pappe goes into a diatribe about the millions spent on neutralizing open criticism. That Israel tries to justify military operations as operations against the "existential threat." Pappe further complains that Israel is "powerful." And that Israel goes to some extent to neutralize Arab Palestinian attempts to delegitimize its existence.​

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This was a mutual lovefest for the Palestinians and a hatefest towards the Israelis. There is no criticism here (unfounded) that we haven't seen before; and will undoubtedly see again.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

‘The Making of Hamas's Foreign Policy’: Palestine Chronicle TV Hosts Daud Abdullah & Na’eem Jeenah

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel-Palestine w/ Peter Beinart & Yehuda HaKohen | The Great Debate

 

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Question: Why don't Palestinians just move to Jordan?

 

[Hollie]

Question: Why don't Palestinians just move to Jordan?

Indeed.