Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[P F Tinmore]

'Deal Of The Century' For Israel/Palestine...Or Dud Of The Century?

BTW, whatever happened to this dud. I haven't heard about it in a long time.

'Deal Of The Century'

Foreign embassies in Jerusalem, Arab nations normalizing relations with Israel.

This: First UAE ambassador arrives in Israel, eyes Tel Aviv embassy

OK, but where is the peace?

 

[Hollie]

'Deal Of The Century' For Israel/Palestine...Or Dud Of The Century?

BTW, whatever happened to this dud. I haven't heard about it in a long time.

'Deal Of The Century'

Foreign embassies in Jerusalem, Arab nations normalizing relations with Israel.

This: First UAE ambassador arrives in Israel, eyes Tel Aviv embassy

OK, but where is the peace?

OK, but is the UAE attacking Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

'Deal Of The Century' For Israel/Palestine...Or Dud Of The Century?

BTW, whatever happened to this dud. I haven't heard about it in a long time.

'Deal Of The Century'

Foreign embassies in Jerusalem, Arab nations normalizing relations with Israel.

This: First UAE ambassador arrives in Israel, eyes Tel Aviv embassy

OK, but where is the peace?

OK, but is the UAE attacking Israel?

Have they ever? Where is the breakthrough here?

 

[rylah]

'Deal Of The Century' For Israel/Palestine...Or Dud Of The Century?

BTW, whatever happened to this dud. I haven't heard about it in a long time.

'Deal Of The Century'

Foreign embassies in Jerusalem, Arab nations normalizing relations with Israel.

This: First UAE ambassador arrives in Israel, eyes Tel Aviv embassy

OK, but where is the peace?

OK, but is the UAE attacking Israel?

Have they ever? Where is the breakthrough here?

It's a tectonic shift.
From the Arab League's infamous "3 no's",
to now Israel leading these countries in a defense alliance.

Also your favorite jihadi lowlifes were shown their (lack of) real value in region.
What more proof do we need that all you haters and John Kerry are but desperate fools?

Why John Kerry and others were wrong about peace and Israel - analysis

Kerry said in 2016 that “there will be no advanced and separate peace with the Arab world without the Palestinian process and Palestinian peace. Everybody needs to understand that."

www.jpost.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

A Palestinian View on Antisemitism

 

[rylah]

 

[rylah]

Hamas promises:

"On this day, as we are witnessing all that is happening with the grace of Allah, we are looking forwards to two important things, which are within sight:

• Cleanse Palestine of the "filth of the Jews" by 2022
• From the River to the Sea - establishment of Caliphate

"But sure, how can Hamas cheerleaders be antisemites,
they're not right wing white supremacists..."

 

[P F Tinmore]

Criticizing Israel Isn't Antisemitic; The Suggestion *Is*

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Loyalty vs Treason?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: In any survey across a national population, there will always be dissenting voices. It is NOT for America to criticize - one way or the other.

Criticizing Israel Isn't Antisemitic; The Suggestion *Is*

(COMMENT)

Treachery and disloyalty are very personal issues within any national population. It is up to the Israelis to decide what rises to the level of the crime of betrayal → the hostility towards or prejudice against Jews. It is their decision during the speech during a time when Medinat Yisra'el is under siege and what is punishable by law.

We as Americans have to remember, that it was the National Council for "Jewish State" → descendants of the Twelve Tribes → representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)]. And it is up to the Israeli people to decide what that means and what relevance it has today. NOT US! We don't have a dog in this fight.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Loyalty vs Treason?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: In any survey across a national population, there will always be dissenting voices. It is NOT for America to criticize - one way or the other.

Criticizing Israel Isn't Antisemitic; The Suggestion *Is*

(COMMENT)

Treachery and disloyalty are very personal issues within any national population. It is up to the Israelis to decide what rises to the level of the crime of betrayal → the hostility towards or prejudice against Jews. It is their decision during the speech during a time when Medinat Yisra'el is under siege and what is punishable by law.

We as Americans have to remember, that it was the National Council for "Jewish State" → descendants of the Twelve Tribes → representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)]. And it is up to the Israeli people to decide what that means and what relevance it has today. NOT US! We don't have a dog in this fight.

Most Respectfully,
R

representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)].

Which was outside the authority of the UN.

BTW, When Israel mentioned that resolution it had already violated virtually everything in it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel and Palestine: A Way Out of Conflict? w/ Marc Lamont Hill and Mitchell Plitnick

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why Criticism Of Israel Isn't Antisemitism

 

[rylah]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Loyalty vs Treason?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: In any survey across a national population, there will always be dissenting voices. It is NOT for America to criticize - one way or the other.

Criticizing Israel Isn't Antisemitic; The Suggestion *Is*

(COMMENT)

Treachery and disloyalty are very personal issues within any national population. It is up to the Israelis to decide what rises to the level of the crime of betrayal → the hostility towards or prejudice against Jews. It is their decision during the speech during a time when Medinat Yisra'el is under siege and what is punishable by law.

We as Americans have to remember, that it was the National Council for "Jewish State" → descendants of the Twelve Tribes → representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)]. And it is up to the Israeli people to decide what that means and what relevance it has today. NOT US! We don't have a dog in this fight.

Most Respectfully,
R

representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)].

Which was outside the authority of the UN.

BTW, When Israel mentioned that resolution it had already violated virtually everything in it.

What does it change,
the authority under law is with the Jewish Nation.

Let's see if for once you find anything beyond the usual baseless accusations.

 

[rylah]

Why Criticism Of Israel Isn't Antisemitism

We should learn about criticism and antisemitism,
from a channel than not once ever criticized the Islamist govt its funded by?

 

[rylah]

Israel and Palestine: A Way Out of Conflict? w/ Marc Lamont Hill and Mitchell Plitnick

Is there a country that according to Hill's definitions is not apartheid?
The only way he can use that accusation is by framing Jews as of different skin and race.

Which doesn't surprise me Hill sees no problem in the ideology that equates Jewish presence with an attack, and independence with a Judenfrei state, demanding it openly.

People like you and Hill are here only to flame and prolong the conflict,
for your own narcissistic feeling of importance and an easy buck,
at the expense of all involved.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Israel - Palestine Conflict, explained in 34 minutes

 

[rylah]

Criticizing Israel Isn't Antisemitic; The Suggestion *Is*

Well, if the suggestion that 'criticism of Israel is antisemitism',
antisemitic on its own (which I fully agree) then what does it make of Abunima, who uses this strawman to constantly ridicule the danger of racist bigotry when it's against Jews?

She might think Israel is not speaking for her,
but it will be Israelis who will have to rescue her and her family,
once you folks decide to go full way with you plans for a CHAZA/GAZA revolution.

Idiots like you have no mercy for their grandchildren.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Loyalty vs Treason?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The PCG, almost immediately after accepting the "recommendations" of the was engaged and entangled with the Arab League. It was the Arab League that prevented the plan to come to fruition.

representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)].

Which was outside the authority of the UN.

BTW, When Israel mentioned that resolution it had already violated virtually everything in it.

(COMMENT)

​

◈ I don't know how many times I have to remind you... The Recommendations were NOT "binding." Applying for "recognition" is much different than compliance.​

​

◈ You cannot "violate" a "recommendations." It was the PCG, and then the Israelis, that attempted to follow the recommendation; even though it was not a formal agreement.​

​

◈ The UN did not exercise or enforce any authority in the matter of the recommendation (it was non-binding). The PCG exercised "self-determination" for the entirety of the Jewish Bodies of Palestine.​

It is this very last point that the Arab Palestinians, wherein the Israelis exercised "self-determination" and the Arab Palestinians did not. And in the last half of the 20th century, the Arab Palestinians made that mistake more than once.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[rylah]

The Israel - Palestine Conflict, explained in 34 minutes

As usual, no "Palestinian" history starts before the end of 19th century. Coincidence?

And why would the need to hide Jewish immigration from Yemen due to persecution,
predating the 1st organized Zionist immigration from Europe, or the arrival of Jews from Morocco due to the same problems facing Jews in Muslim countries as in Europe, virtually at the same time?

Why the need to frame a majority population comprised of refugees expelled from Arab countries, as "Europeans", or pretend they initiated the violence?

This really looks a desperate attempt to hide what is commonly known.
By trying so desparately to deny the anti-Jewish hostility in the Arab world,
which in response initiated the Zionist organization, these people actually reveal they
fully know their part and blame in the shameful defeat they were served by former dhimmis.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Loyalty vs Treason?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The PCG, almost immediately after accepting the "recommendations" of the was engaged and entangled with the Arab League. It was the Arab League that prevented the plan to come to fruition.

representing the Jewish Bodies of Palestine that applied to the UN Palestine Commission for recognition as the Provisional Council Government (PCG). It was the PCG → that established Israel as the Jewish State on the recommendation of the UN [Part II B • A/RES/181 (II)].

Which was outside the authority of the UN.

BTW, When Israel mentioned that resolution it had already violated virtually everything in it.

(COMMENT)

​

◈ I don't know how many times I have to remind you... The Recommendations were NOT "binding." Applying for "recognition" is much different than compliance.​

​

◈ You cannot "violate" a "recommendations." It was the PCG, and then the Israelis, that attempted to follow the recommendation; even though it was not a formal agreement.​

​

◈ The UN did not exercise or enforce any authority in the matter of the recommendation (it was non-binding). The PCG exercised "self-determination" for the entirety of the Jewish Bodies of Palestine.​

It is this very last point that the Arab Palestinians, wherein the Israelis exercised "self-determination" and the Arab Palestinians did not. And in the last half of the 20th century, the Arab Palestinians made that mistake more than once.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel violated virtually all of resolution 181 before any Arab League intervention.