Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: TimeLine Allegations
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: OH wow! This is blatant mutilation of the facts. Pure misinformation...


Israel violated virtually all of resolution 181 before any Arab League intervention.
(COMMENT)

The "recommendations" of General Assembly Resolution 181(II) was not adopted until 27 November 1947. By January 1948, the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) rejected the invitation from the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) to participate in set-up activities that would lead to independence. The UNPC was satisfied that the accomplishments made Jewish Provisional Council Government (PCG) was sufficient given the armed aggression by the Arab League that prevented further progress.

Yes, there were some skirmishes and a few serious confrontations prior to the 15 May 1948 Independence. The most serious of which was the Arab attack (13 April 1948) on a Jewish Medical Column. The column was set upon by Arab Forces, including Iraqi Member approximate 100 yards from a British Military Outpost. The British Forces block the Haganah from coming to the aid of the 11 vehicle Haddasah convoy, killing 64 unarmed Doctors, Nurses, and aid personnel nearly half of which were burned alive in fire-bombed vehicles and the remainder were gunned-down by Arab automatic weapons fire as the medical staff attempted to escape the burning vehicles. All the vehicles were destroyed and only seven survivors (all of which were wounded) were later pulled from the carnage. In defense of the UK, they claim one British Other Rank was killed and two British Other Ranks were wounded, a Deputy Superintendent of Police was seriously wounded; this according to Sir John Fletcher-Cooke Counsellor in the UK Mission to the UN in New York.

The conflict was starting before the PCG could even declare its independence.

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Most Respectfully,
R
 
'Deal Of The Century' For Israel/Palestine...Or Dud Of The Century?

BTW, whatever happened to this dud. I haven't heard about it in a long time.

'Deal Of The Century'

Foreign embassies in Jerusalem, Arab nations normalizing relations with Israel.

This: First UAE ambassador arrives in Israel, eyes Tel Aviv embassy
OK, but where is the peace?
OK, but is the UAE attacking Israel?
Have they ever? Where is the breakthrough here?
The breakthrough is in changing attitudes. Arab nations are seeing mutual interests served by abandoning strict alliances with the Pally whiners and aligning with Israel. Beneficial trade deals with Israel are a big draw as is an alliance with the Israeli military against Iran.

Might I suggest a bit less time trolling YouTube and a bit more time understanding what is happening in the world around you.
 
Meet The Wrong Type of Jew, The Media Doesn't Want You To Know Exists | Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi

 
"Imagining Together a Shared, One-State Reality" w/ Peter Beinart & Yousef Munayyer

 
"Imagining Together a Shared, One-State Reality" w/ Peter Beinart & Yousef Munayyer
Hard to imagine.

"Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors."
The Imam and Martyr Hassan al-Banna(5) May Allah Pity his Soul
 
2019 Yitzhak Rabin Lecture: US Jews and Israel: Are we headed for divorce?

 
RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: TimeLine Allegations
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: OH wow! This is blatant mutilation of the facts. Pure misinformation...


Israel violated virtually all of resolution 181 before any Arab League intervention.
(COMMENT)

The "recommendations" of General Assembly Resolution 181(II) was not adopted until 27 November 1947. By January 1948, the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) rejected the invitation from the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) to participate in set-up activities that would lead to independence. The UNPC was satisfied that the accomplishments made Jewish Provisional Council Government (PCG) was sufficient given the armed aggression by the Arab League that prevented further progress.

Yes, there were some skirmishes and a few serious confrontations prior to the 15 May 1948 Independence. The most serious of which was the Arab attack (13 April 1948) on a Jewish Medical Column. The column was set upon by Arab Forces, including Iraqi Member approximate 100 yards from a British Military Outpost. The British Forces block the Haganah from coming to the aid of the 11 vehicle Haddasah convoy, killing 64 unarmed Doctors, Nurses, and aid personnel nearly half of which were burned alive in fire-bombed vehicles and the remainder were gunned-down by Arab automatic weapons fire as the medical staff attempted to escape the burning vehicles. All the vehicles were destroyed and only seven survivors (all of which were wounded) were later pulled from the carnage. In defense of the UK, they claim one British Other Rank was killed and two British Other Ranks were wounded, a Deputy Superintendent of Police was seriously wounded; this according to Sir John Fletcher-Cooke Counsellor in the UK Mission to the UN in New York.

The conflict was starting before the PCG could even declare its independence.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
rejected the invitation from the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) to participate in set-up activities that would lead to independence.
It wasn't for independence but to give half of their country to colonial settlers.
 
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RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: TimeLine Allegations
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: OH wow! This is blatant mutilation of the facts. Pure misinformation...


Israel violated virtually all of resolution 181 before any Arab League intervention.
(COMMENT)

The "recommendations" of General Assembly Resolution 181(II) was not adopted until 27 November 1947. By January 1948, the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) rejected the invitation from the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) to participate in set-up activities that would lead to independence. The UNPC was satisfied that the accomplishments made Jewish Provisional Council Government (PCG) was sufficient given the armed aggression by the Arab League that prevented further progress.

Yes, there were some skirmishes and a few serious confrontations prior to the 15 May 1948 Independence. The most serious of which was the Arab attack (13 April 1948) on a Jewish Medical Column. The column was set upon by Arab Forces, including Iraqi Member approximate 100 yards from a British Military Outpost. The British Forces block the Haganah from coming to the aid of the 11 vehicle Haddasah convoy, killing 64 unarmed Doctors, Nurses, and aid personnel nearly half of which were burned alive in fire-bombed vehicles and the remainder were gunned-down by Arab automatic weapons fire as the medical staff attempted to escape the burning vehicles. All the vehicles were destroyed and only seven survivors (all of which were wounded) were later pulled from the carnage. In defense of the UK, they claim one British Other Rank was killed and two British Other Ranks were wounded, a Deputy Superintendent of Police was seriously wounded; this according to Sir John Fletcher-Cooke Counsellor in the UK Mission to the UN in New York.

The conflict was starting before the PCG could even declare its independence.

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
rejected the invitation from the UN Palestine Commission (UNPC) to participate in set-up activities that would lead to independence.
It wasn't for independence but to give half if their country to colonial settlers.
"Their country''?

You have this "history according to Tinmore" version which is hilariously skewed.
 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.
 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...

 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.
 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

Don't give me your pathetic excuses,
just admit you love Hamas and want to execute gays in the main square.
 
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A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

Don't give me your pathetic excuses,
just admit you love Hamas and want to execute gays in the main square.

:offtopic:
 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

Don't give me your pathetic excuses,
just admit you love Hamas and want to execute gays in the main square.

:offtopic:


I get it, another touchy subject you just don't want us to address.
But we were discussing Hamas in response to your post...

Wasn't it your "I love Hamas" post here?

Why so shy now?
 
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A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

You shouldn't be surprised that people point and laugh at your silly conspiracy theories.
 
A Palestinian makes the case for Hamas to an Israeli | Standing Up Clips



Just to remind,
last time I attempted to discuss this video with you,
and it was pointed to Kefah Abukhdeir explaining how "nationalism is forbidden in Islam",
making Hamas essentially illegitimate, you then called Kefah an "Israeli shill".

Want to pick up from there?

Few Palestinians want to live in an "Islamic state." They universally call for democratic elections.

Hamas is criticized from the far right for being too nationalistic and democratic.


So there're more extreme right wing Palestinian parties than Hamas,
and you don't see how this proves the opposite of your opening claim?

If Hamas, the supposedly majority elected party,
that set establishment of Caliphate a political goal, is not the most right wing Pali party,
then how is this not the proof that the majority indeed wants an Islamic state?

Not to mention already having one...


Hamas only won because Fatah sucks that bad.

Don't give me your pathetic excuses,
just admit you love Hamas and want to execute gays in the main square.

:offtopic:


I get it, another touchy subject you just don't want us to address.
But we were discussing Hamas in response to your post...

Wasn't it your "I love Hamas" post here?

Why so shy now?

Thanks for reminding me. This was a great interview.



Who was Israel's boogyman before there was Hamas? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

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