Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[Hollie]

Israel never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. During the Mandate period, they were offered a single state solution. It was rejected. After the '67 war, Israel was offered a single state solution. It was rejected. Many pushed for a two state solution, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew that was never going to happen.

There are only two options left. Single state or apartheid.

That long, tedious copy and paste doesn't address why Isrealis would have any reason to abandon their first-world economy and society in favor of a single state drenched in retrograde Islamists.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abby Martin: Israeli War Crimes Against Palestinians, an In-Depth Look 'Gaza Fights For Freedom'​

 

[Hollie]

Abby Martin: Israeli War Crimes Against Palestinians, an In-Depth Look 'Gaza Fights For Freedom'​

Actually, no, dear. Islamic ideology brings freedom for no one. The brutush, fascist, all-consuming politico-religious ideology has never brought freedom.

https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/Data/pdf/PDF_06_032_2.pdf

The main points of the Hamas charter:

The conflict with Israeli is religious and political: The Palestinian problem
is a religious-political Muslim problem and the conflict with Israel is between
Muslims and the Jewish “infidels.”

All Palestine is Muslim land and no one has the right to give it up: The
land of Palestine is sacred Muslim land and no one, including Arab rulers, has
the authority to give up any of it.

The importance of jihad (holy war) as the main means for the Islamic
Resistance Movement (Hamas) to achieve its goals: An uncompromising jihad must be waged against Israel and any agreement recognizing its right to exist must be totally opposed. Jihad is the personal duty of every Muslim.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[USAF 2023]

Good point. Why should they give most of their country to colonial settlers?

When two or more parties " negotiate" about anything; Whether it be Countries, Companies, etc. etc. each party hopes to get something out of it.
Tell us please why it's in Israel's best interest to come to a mutual solution
Israel was offered a One State Solution? Link, please


Readers React: Why Israel can never accept a one-state solution

Tell us please if Israel was desperate enough to do it was assurances would they be given that they would have a say in any form of Gov't starting at even the local level

Last but not least, the Palestinians would have full control over Jewish Sacred and Religious Sites

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. During the Mandate period, they were offered a single state solution. It was rejected. After the '67 war, Israel was offered a single state solution. It was rejected. Many pushed for a two state solution, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew that was never going to happen.

There are only two options left. Single state or apartheid.

The Arabs initiated the War to destroy Israel. Israel won. Please tell us why Israel was " offered" this deal or better yet why they should have accepted giving up their State so it could be taken over by those who tried to destroy it
Links to both, please

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Arabs initiated the War to destroy Israel. Israel won.

No they didn't.
No they didn't.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The changing role of Palestine in Canadian politics​

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[USAF 2023]

No they didn't.

No they didn't.

Nasser initiated the War by closing the Straits. Syria was using the Israelis as target practice. You can DENY all you want…. Those are the facts. BTW. Where are those links ?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Absent an Alternative Solutions
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well, I'm not sure who you are implying as being mentally deficient; but, this statement here is both ambiguous and expansive in time → to a degree → three generations beyond the UN Recommendations for the implementation of a Two-State Solution and the establishment of an International City State. In fact, you could not adequately describe the political atmosphere of a single generation in the three sentences you offer here as being remotely of any intellectual value.

◈ Who offered, with any credible authority, a Single-State Solution to Israel?​

◈ Again, the Mandate Period being between 1922 - 1948, who made an offer to Israel (which only came into existence in 1948) what Single-State Solution?​

◈ And again, after the Six-Day War, WHO made an offer of a Single-State Solution?​

Israel never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. During the Mandate period, they were offered a single state solution. It was rejected. After the '67 war, Israel was offered a single state solution. It was rejected. Many pushed for a two state solution, but anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew that was never going to happen.

There are only two options left. Single state or apartheid.

(COMMENT)
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It is a very strange notion, altogether, that there are only two possibilities that remain:

◈ Single-State Solution​

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◈ Apartheid (astonishing!)​

Who in the hell would not recognize this as a dilemma of a false premise → as of a false dichotomy → as a fallacy. There have to be more than two possibilities; even, if it is the status quo of a regional conflict. Theoretically, there must be the additional possibility of a Thee-State Solution.

It is important that the Quartet (United Nations, United States, European Union, and Russia Federation) or its successor, be able to think beyond this two-premise limitation.

AND → it is extremely important that the Quartet be able to advance beyond the nonsense of "apartheid" - that being a Red Mediterranean Sunfish (I would say Red Herring, but the most common fish in the Region is the Sunfish)(a little humor there).

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"The crime of apartheid" means inhumane acts of a character similar to those referred to in paragraph 1, committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime;
SOURCE LINK

As you all know (you don't have to be a "Rocket Scientist" to recognize that citizenship in Israel is many times more diverse than that of the territories under discussion. I think even those scholars at the White House could figure that out. The Arab Palestinian claim of "Apartheid" is merely an attempt to apply a despicable label to the Israelis. But, intellectually, it has no real value. It sticks only because the users do not know the definition of the claim. It has nothing to do with the truth. There is no single racial group on the Israeli side of the sovereign boundary trying to oppress a racial group on the Palestinian side of the boundary. And being Israeli is NOT a racial group.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Absent an Alternative Solutions
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well, I'm not sure who you are implying as being mentally deficient; but, this statement here is both ambiguous and expansive in time → to a degree → three generations beyond the UN Recommendations for the implementation of a Two-State Solution and the establishment of an International City State. In fact, you could not adequately describe the political atmosphere of a single generation in the three sentences you offer here as being remotely of any intellectual value.

◈ Who offered, with any credible authority, a Single-State Solution to Israel?​

◈ Again, the Mandate Period being between 1922 - 1948, who made an offer to Israel (which only came into existence in 1948) what Single-State Solution?​

◈ And again, after the Six-Day War, WHO made an offer of a Single-State Solution?​

(COMMENT)
.
It is a very strange notion, altogether, that there are only two possibilities that remain:

◈ Single-State Solution​

​

◈ Apartheid (astonishing!)​

Who in the hell would not recognize this as a dilemma of a false premise → as of a false dichotomy → as a fallacy. There have to be more than two possibilities; even, if it is the status quo of a regional conflict. Theoretically, there must be the additional possibility of a Thee-State Solution.

It is important that the Quartet (United Nations, United States, European Union, and Russia Federation) or its successor, be able to think beyond this two-premise limitation.

AND → it is extremely important that the Quartet be able to advance beyond the nonsense of "apartheid" - that being a Red Mediterranean Sunfish (I would say Red Herring, but the most common fish in the Region is the Sunfish)(a little humor there).

​

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As you all know (you don't have to be a "Rocket Scientist" to recognize that citizenship in Israel is many times more diverse than that of the territories under discussion. I think even those scholars at the White House could figure that out. The Arab Palestinian claim of "Apartheid" is merely an attempt to apply a despicable label to the Israelis. But, intellectually, it has no real value. It sticks only because the users do not know the definition of the claim. It has nothing to do with the truth. There is no single racial group on the Israeli side of the sovereign boundary trying to oppress a racial group on the Palestinian side of the boundary. And being Israeli is NOT a racial group.

Most Respectfully,
R

This is the first time I realize he is totally delusional; especially his claim that a SINGLE STATE solution was offered AFTER the 67 War!
Why would the Israelis even consider such a thing knowing that those who would be the majority are their Worst enemies!
Who would be in charge of this “ State?” Being such a minority, how can the Israelis be assured their religious rights would be protected especially having access to their religious sites? There will be no response

 

[P F Tinmore]

Meltdowns and Knock Offs​

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[USAF 2023]

Know when a person has nothing to say? When he repeats himself with EXACTLY the same post

 

[Hollie]

This is the first time I realize he is totally delusional; especially his claim that a SINGLE STATE solution was offered AFTER the 67 War!
Why would the Israelis even consider such a thing knowing that those who would be the majority are their Worst enemies!
Who would be in charge of this “ State?” Being such a minority, how can the Israelis be assured their religious rights would be protected especially having access to their religious sites? There will be no response

There's a pattern here. Ten years of the delusional claim about the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the "country of Pal'istan", which it did not, along with claimed "new states", none of which exist.

It's best just to leave him to his cut and paste youtube videos.

 

[Hollie]

Meltdowns and Knock Offs​

But enough about your frantic cutting and pasting of youtube videos.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Reclaiming Arab Judaism with Hadar Cohen​

 

[USAF 2023]

Reclaiming Arab Judaism with Hadar Cohen​

Antisemitism Uncovered: Antisemitism in Global History

Across continents and centuries, Jews have faced persecution and scapegoating that persists through present day.

antisemitism.adl.org

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Again, he lies. Antisemitism has been around for Centuries A few SMALL examples

 

[P F Tinmore]

Antisemitism Uncovered: Antisemitism in Global History

Across continents and centuries, Jews have faced persecution and scapegoating that persists through present day.

antisemitism.adl.org

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Again, he lies. Antisemitism has been around for Centuries A few SMALL examples

What is it like to be hated everyplace you go?

 

[USAF 2023]

What is it like to be hated everyplace you go?

What is it like to be proven you are a LIAR; Antisemitism is REAL and has nothing to do with the State of Israel?