Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.

[P F Tinmore]

“ Israel’s bombing campaign against Gaza” Has anyone noticed in this “ discussion” there is no mention of what brought this on? Of course not… There never is

There was. Sorry you missed it.

 

[rylah]

 

[USAF 2023]

There was. Sorry you missed it.

Listened to most of it. No mention of the Constant Rockets Israel’s being barraged with. Heard about a lot of other nonsense

 

[P F Tinmore]

Listened to most of it. No mention of the Constant Rockets Israel’s being barraged with. Heard about a lot of other nonsense

You look at everything through Israel colored glasses.

 

[USAF 2023]

You look at everything through Israel colored glasses.You look at everything through Palestinian colored glasses including defending their “ goal” to forbid Israeli access to their religious sites

You honestly don’t have the ability to understand that the Pre 67 domination of E Jerusalem by the Arab World preventing Jews from what should be a “ human right” ( Having access to their religious sites) will never happen again

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Absent an Alternative
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You and your anti-Israel friends (like Brian Eno, Dan Machover, Diala Shamas, Pete Beinert, Emily Prey, Noura Erakat, etc etc ad nauseam) have - not once - come up with a realistic solution that will keep the territory (formerly under the Mandate) the most highly developed of all the Arab League Nations.

You look at everything through Israel colored glasses.

(COMMENT)
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If you want to take a look into the future, it's not going to get much better for the Arab Palestinians. None of the regional countries want to see the controls dropped and the threat the Palestinians pose, all of a sudden, running loose in the Region. The threat the Saudi Arabians discovered did not go unnoticed by the regional governments. Sure, the Arab League will remain relatively balanced on the side of the Arab Palestinians in a politically docile way. But it is unlikely they want to engage in proactive support of the Islamic Resistance, the Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and other Asymmetric Fighters that would come out of the bottle once it is opened. It has the potential of spreading like the Black Death.

While Libya has drifted away from the concerns by many in the western world, the Arab League knows that such the experiment of allowing the radicalized elements to take control of the nation, Libya exemplifies the outcome a decade later (next month). And the were many more business-minded in Libya - and it is still a fail country. The Arab Palestinians have a great pool of rabble-rousers, thieves, and political con-men, they have masked the fact that they are a failed state that cannot survive without donor nation contributions and the monetary boost the self-sustaining UNRWA contributes.

All the pro-Hostile Arab Palestinians and the anti-Israeli crowd can talk about is all the woes the poor Arab Palestinians have suffered, without exception, by not cooperating even once in a hundred years in establishing a viable self-governing institution.

You guys can whine and cry all you want about the Israelis. But you cannot deny that they built a nation, second to none, in the immediate region. And the Hostile Arab Palestinians did nothing.

I'm sorry, but these people that support the Hostile Arab Palestinians and anti-Israel opposition are betraying the people of the Wst Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip with every rocket the fire or incendiary kite they let fly when they could show the world how they can rise like the immortal Pheonix out the smoldering ashes and build a nation.

They can't do it.

No matter what evil you can claim the Israelis have done (and history has shown they always blame the Jews), they are a nation builder. And the Arab Palestinians cannot evolve past the stage of crooks, criminals, terrorists, and murderers.

They should put that on their flag. "Terrorists Since WWI."
.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

You honestly don’t have the ability to understand that the Pre 67 domination of E Jerusalem by the Arab World preventing Jews from what should be a “ human right” ( Having access to their religious sites) will never happen again

Thst was Jordan not Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
SUBTOPIC: Absent an Alternative
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You and your anti-Israel friends (like Brian Eno, Dan Machover, Diala Shamas, Pete Beinert, Emily Prey, Noura Erakat, etc etc ad nauseam) have - not once - come up with a realistic solution that will keep the territory (formerly under the Mandate) the most highly developed of all the Arab League Nations.


(COMMENT)
.
If you want to take a look into the future, it's not going to get much better for the Arab Palestinians. None of the regional countries want to see the controls dropped and the threat the Palestinians pose, all of a sudden, running loose in the Region. The threat the Saudi Arabians discovered did not go unnoticed by the regional governments. Sure, the Arab League will remain relatively balanced on the side of the Arab Palestinians in a politically docile way. But it is unlikely they want to engage in proactive support of the Islamic Resistance, the Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and other Asymmetric Fighters that would come out of the bottle once it is opened. It has the potential of spreading like the Black Death.

While Libya has drifted away from the concerns by many in the western world, the Arab League knows that such the experiment of allowing the radicalized elements to take control of the nation, Libya exemplifies the outcome a decade later (next month). And the were many more business-minded in Libya - and it is still a fail country. The Arab Palestinians have a great pool of rabble-rousers, thieves, and political con-men, they have masked the fact that they are a failed state that cannot survive without donor nation contributions and the monetary boost the self-sustaining UNRWA contributes.

All the pro-Hostile Arab Palestinians and the anti-Israeli crowd can talk about is all the woes the poor Arab Palestinians have suffered, without exception, by not cooperating even once in a hundred years in establishing a viable self-governing institution.

You guys can whine and cry all you want about the Israelis. But you cannot deny that they built a nation, second to none, in the immediate region. And the Hostile Arab Palestinians did nothing.

I'm sorry, but these people that support the Hostile Arab Palestinians and anti-Israel opposition are betraying the people of the Wst Bank, Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip with every rocket the fire or incendiary kite they let fly when they could show the world how they can rise like the immortal Pheonix out the smoldering ashes and build a nation.

They can't do it.

No matter what evil you can claim the Israelis have done (and history has shown they always blame the Jews), they are a nation builder. And the Arab Palestinians cannot evolve past the stage of crooks, criminals, terrorists, and murderers.

They should put that on their flag. "Terrorists Since WWI."
.

Most Respectfully,
R

WOW, trope city.

The Palestinians are not a threat to anyone.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Israel Lobby in Academia: Film screening​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Loser wants to shut down the debate.

What Happened at the Antisemitism Summit? - With Irwin Cotler​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Owen Jones meets Salma Karmi-Ayyoub | 'The IHRA antisemitism debate is toxic'​

 

[rylah]

WOW, trope city.

The Palestinians are not a threat to anyone.

Except if you' are:

boarding a plane,
or a US senator
or LGBTQ
or Jew

...and others you like them to murder.

Hamas Commander, Accused of Theft and Gay Sex, Is Killed by His Own (Published 2016)

The death of Mahmoud Ishtiwi, who was accused of homosexuality, had all the trappings of a soap opera: sex, torture and embezzlement, in the armed wing of Hamas.

www.nytimes.com

 

[USAF 2023]

Thst was Jordan not Palestine.

They already came out and stated the Jewish people would have NO access to the Western Wall. Show me where they made it clear that with that ONE exception the Jewish people even Israelis would NOT be denied their religious rights. You can’t because that’s not in their plans

 

[P F Tinmore]

Fighting Anti-Semitism or Silencing Critics of Israel?​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Max Blumenthal, "The 51 Day War"​

 

[USAF 2023]

Fighting Anti-Semitism or Silencing Critics of Israel?​

The stain of antisemitism in Canada | CMHR

Dignity, respect and inclusion matter to us all. Join us on a journey like no other and experience human rights stories from Canada and around the world.

humanrights.ca

This little " exchange" about Anti Semitism vs Silencing Critics of Israel is in Toronto , Canada so let's talk about Antisemitism in Canada. Does ANY of this have to do with Israel and the " occupation?" Of Course not! Antisemitism has been in existence for almost 2000 years prior to 1948

Timeline of antisemitism - Wikipedia

Oh, The Humanities!: Why the Jews of Montreal had to keep their heads down in 1930s

If Jews were too strident about the growing danger to their co-religionists in Europe, they feared unwelcome attention at home and triggering even worse forms of anti-Semitism

nationalpost.com

Just a FEW examples. Of course Tinmore sees nothing wrong with this

 

[P F Tinmore]

My Beit Daras My Nakba: Two Palestinian intellectuals reminiscing about their destroyed village​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why Does Israel Want To Annex The West Bank?'​

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians That Nobody is Talking About​

 

[USAF 2023]

Why Does Israel Want To Annex The West Bank?'​

Ehud Olmert’s Peace Offer

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

Another lie. Israel offered approx 95 % of the West Bank to Abbas

• Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem would be under Jewish sovereignty, Arab neighborhoods would be under Palestinian sovereignty, so it could be the capital of a Palestinian state.
• No one would have sovereignty in the holy basin in Jerusalem containing sites holy to Jews, Muslims and Christians, including the Mount of Olives, the City of David and part of the Arab neighborhood of Silwan. This area “would be jointly administered by five nations, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the Palestinian state, Israel and the United States.

We all know why ABBAS refuses no sovereignty in Holy Sites; because that way he wouldn't have control preventing Jews from visiting their Religious Sites the way Jordan did

• PA officials: Jews have ‘no right to pray’ at Western Wall

Attempts to Claim the Western Wall as Muslim Holy Site Are Absurd - Algemeiner.com

If there is one thing that we were all pretty certain of a week ago, it was that the Kotel is universally regarded as a Jewish holy shrine. The Kotel, or Western Wall, is a short section of the largely intact retaining wall that held up the Second Temple plaza, constructed by King Herod in

www.algemeiner.com

Can anyone imagine the International Uproar if Israel banned the Palestinians from visiting a religious site? These are people Israel is to make " peace" with?