Palestinian Industry of Lies - Ben Dror Yemini

[Rigby5]

...you can start here...

You have no knowledge of language.
The lack of p and b in Arabic is not a deficiency, but a sign of age.
Similarly with Japanese, older language have fewer sound typically.
{...
Notice that several English sounds are missing from the Japanese language entirely: "c," "f," "l," "q," "v," and "x." When Japanese want to represent these sounds, they have to use Japanese syllables that sound almost the same. For example, to pronounce the country name "France," Japanese say "Huransu."
...}
But English only has 44 basic phonemes, while Japanese actually has 46, so is a more complicated language.
But you can tell Arabic is much older than both because is only has 34 basic phonemes.

But again, Hebrew is a Semitic language, meaning it is derived from the previous Arab languages.

 

[rylah]

You are ignorant.
You claim Hebrew is 10th century BC and Arabic is only 5th century BC,
But Arabic is NOT the first Arab language.
Old Arabic was used by the Canaanites, and goes back before 10,000 BC.
Hebrew is obviously derived from Old Arabic, and that is why Hebrew are classified as Semitic, meaning that since their language derived from Arabs, that they must also have derived from Arabs.
Semitic means Arab, not Jewish.
If you think Arabs came late to the Mideast, you know nothing at all about history.
All original people in the Mideast were Arab, including the Hebrew tribes, where ever they may have come from.
All the original people of the Mideast were Arab, including the Canaanites, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Philistine, Urites, Nabatians, etc.

Having decided to leave Egypt does not justify the Hebew tribes invading the Land of Canaan and massacring Canaanites.
The fact they only lasted about 250 years, shows how unpopular they were.

You imply Jews have something to do with the defeat of the empires who defeated the Jews, like the Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Turks, etc., and that is totally untrue. They fell because they deserved to fall, just as the invading Hebrew deserved to fall.
All invaders should fall because invaders are inherently evil, antisocial, and dysfunctional.

Zionist Jews clearly do not at all fit into the Mideast, do not belong there, do not even try to get along with anyone native, are incredibly aggressive, violent, selfish, and evil towards the real natives.

Again with this Arab supremacist nonsense...
Can you actually find historic referance
to Arabic prior to 5th c. BCE?

Let's see big mouth.

 

[Rigby5]

Hamas internal minister: half of us are Egyptians, and half are Saudis

WRONG.
Egyptians are not Semitic because their native language is not derived from an Arab language group.
The original Egyptian are likely Kushite, not Semitic, and their ancient language is not Semitic.

And it is WRONG to show a video of a politician trying to initiate feelings of solidarity by claiming Palestinians are Egyptian or Saudi.
The Palestinians clearly are NOT Egyptian or Saudi, and are much older.
The Palestinians not only are the source of modern Egyptians and Saudi, but Jews as well.
But Jews left twice.
The left once before 1600 BC and left where ever that was, to go to Egypt.
Then around 170 AD they left again.
So they have no claim to anywhere in the Mideast.

 

[rylah]

You have no knowledge of language.
The lack of p and b in Arabic is not a deficiency, but a sign of age.
Similarly with Japanese, older language have fewer sound typically.
{...
Notice that several English sounds are missing from the Japanese language entirely: "c," "f," "l," "q," "v," and "x." When Japanese want to represent these sounds, they have to use Japanese syllables that sound almost the same. For example, to pronounce the country name "France," Japanese say "Huransu."
...}
But English only has 44 basic phonemes, while Japanese actually has 46, so is a more complicated language.
But you can tell Arabic is much older than both because is only has 34 basic phonemes.

But again, Hebrew is a Semitic language, meaning it is derived from the previous Arab languages.

Is this why the majority of Arabs have yet
to learn how properly pronounce 'P- alestine'??

 

[Rigby5]

Again with this Arab supremacist nonsense...
Can you actually find historic referance
to Arabic prior to 5th c. BCE?

Let's see big mouth.

Easily done.
Infact Old Arabic preceedes Aramaic.
It is the oldest written langauge.
Hebrew had no written script until around 100 BC.

Old Arabic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
Old Arabic and its descendants are classified Central Semitic languages, which is an intermediate language group containing the older Northwest Semitic languages (e.g., Aramaic and Hebrew), the languages of the Dadanitic, Taymanitic inscriptions, the poorly understood languages labeled Thamudic, and the ancient languages of Yemen written in the Ancient South Arabian script. Old Arabic, is however, distinguished from all of them by the following innovations:[3]
...}

The ancient Canaanites spoke a Semitic Arab language as far back as 10,000 BC.

Canaanite languages - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
The Canaanite languages, or Canaanite dialects,[1] are one of the three subgroups of the Northwest Semitic languages, the others being Aramaic and Ugaritic, all originating in the Levant and Mesopotamia. They are attested in Canaanite inscriptions throughout the Levant, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and the East Mediterranean, and after the founding of Carthage by Phoenician colonists, in coastal regions of North Africa and Iberian Peninsula also. Dialects have been labelled primarily with reference to Biblical geography: Hebrew (Israelite, Judean, Samaritan), Phoenician/Punic, Amorite, Ammonite, Philistine, Moabite, Sutean and Edomite; the dialects were all mutually intelligible, being no more differentiated than geographical varieties of Modern English.[2] This family of languages has the distinction of being the first historically attested group of languages to use an alphabet, derived from the Proto-Canaanite alphabet, to record their writings, as opposed to the far earlier Cuneiform logographic/syllabic writing of the region, which originated in Mesopotamia.

These extremely closely related tongues were spoken by the ancient Semitic people of the Canaan and Levant regions, an area encompassing what is today Israel, Jordan, Sinai, Lebanon, Syria, the Palestinian territories and also some areas of southwestern Turkey (Anatolia), western and southern Iraq (Mesopotamia) and the north western corner of Saudi Arabia.

The Canaanites are broadly defined to include the Hebrews (including Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans), Amalekites, Ammonites, Amorites, Edomites, Ekronites, Hyksos, Phoenicians (including the Carthaginians), Moabites and Suteans. Although the Amorites are included among the Canaanite peoples, their language is sometimes not considered to be a Canaanite language but very closely related.

The Canaanite languages continued to be everyday spoken languages until at least the 4th century CE. Hebrew is the only living Canaanite language today. It remained in continuous use by many Jews well into the Middle Ages and up to the present day as both a liturgical and literary language and was used for commerce between disparate diasporic Jewish communities. It has also remained a liturgical language among Samaritans. Hebrew was revived by Jewish political and cultural activists, particularly through the revitalization and cultivation efforts of Zionists throughout Europe and in Palestine, as an everyday spoken language in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. By the mid-20th century, Modern Hebrew had become the primary language of the Jews of Palestine and was later made the official language of the State of Israel.

The primary modern reference book for the many extra-biblical Canaanite inscriptions, together with Aramaic inscriptions, is the German-language book Kanaanäische und Aramäische Inschriften, from which inscriptions are often referenced as KAI n (for a number n).[3]
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And just so there is no misunderstanding, Semitic means "of an Arab language group".
It does NOT mean Jewish, as all.

{...
Semitic
[səˈmidik]

ADJECTIVE

1. relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
   ...}
   
   

 

[Rigby5]

Is this why the majority of Arabs have yet
to learn how properly pronounce 'P- alestine'??

The most ancient cultures have the oldest languages, with the least phonemes.
You know nothing of language.
The correct pronunciation of Palestine is "Falestine".
Read up on the Phoenicians, Philistines, Hebrew, etc.
None of them pronounced a hard P.
It was always a soft f sound to them.
That is more proof modern Jews are devoid of any Mideast connection or culture.
They are European Ashkenazi, not Mideast or Iberian Shephardi.
Thanks for helping me remember how modern European Jews do not belong in the Mideast.
Talk about the sins of arrogance and pride.
Mixed with ignorance.

 

[rylah]

Easily done.
Infact Old Arabic preceedes Aramaic.
It is the oldest written langauge.
Hebrew had no written script until around 100 BC.

Old Arabic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
Old Arabic and its descendants are classified Central Semitic languages, which is an intermediate language group containing the older Northwest Semitic languages (e.g., Aramaic and Hebrew), the languages of the Dadanitic, Taymanitic inscriptions, the poorly understood languages labeled Thamudic, and the ancient languages of Yemen written in the Ancient South Arabian script. Old Arabic, is however, distinguished from all of them by the following innovations:[3]
...}

The ancient Canaanites spoke a Semitic Arab language as far back as 10,000 BC.

Canaanite languages - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
The Canaanite languages, or Canaanite dialects,[1] are one of the three subgroups of the Northwest Semitic languages, the others being Aramaic and Ugaritic, all originating in the Levant and Mesopotamia. They are attested in Canaanite inscriptions throughout the Levant, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and the East Mediterranean, and after the founding of Carthage by Phoenician colonists, in coastal regions of North Africa and Iberian Peninsula also. Dialects have been labelled primarily with reference to Biblical geography: Hebrew (Israelite, Judean, Samaritan), Phoenician/Punic, Amorite, Ammonite, Philistine, Moabite, Sutean and Edomite; the dialects were all mutually intelligible, being no more differentiated than geographical varieties of Modern English.[2] This family of languages has the distinction of being the first historically attested group of languages to use an alphabet, derived from the Proto-Canaanite alphabet, to record their writings, as opposed to the far earlier Cuneiform logographic/syllabic writing of the region, which originated in Mesopotamia.

These extremely closely related tongues were spoken by the ancient Semitic people of the Canaan and Levant regions, an area encompassing what is today Israel, Jordan, Sinai, Lebanon, Syria, the Palestinian territories and also some areas of southwestern Turkey (Anatolia), western and southern Iraq (Mesopotamia) and the north western corner of Saudi Arabia.

The Canaanites are broadly defined to include the Hebrews (including Israelites, Judeans and Samaritans), Amalekites, Ammonites, Amorites, Edomites, Ekronites, Hyksos, Phoenicians (including the Carthaginians), Moabites and Suteans. Although the Amorites are included among the Canaanite peoples, their language is sometimes not considered to be a Canaanite language but very closely related.

The Canaanite languages continued to be everyday spoken languages until at least the 4th century CE. Hebrew is the only living Canaanite language today. It remained in continuous use by many Jews well into the Middle Ages and up to the present day as both a liturgical and literary language and was used for commerce between disparate diasporic Jewish communities. It has also remained a liturgical language among Samaritans. Hebrew was revived by Jewish political and cultural activists, particularly through the revitalization and cultivation efforts of Zionists throughout Europe and in Palestine, as an everyday spoken language in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. By the mid-20th century, Modern Hebrew had become the primary language of the Jews of Palestine and was later made the official language of the State of Israel.

The primary modern reference book for the many extra-biblical Canaanite inscriptions, together with Aramaic inscriptions, is the German-language book Kanaanäische und Aramäische Inschriften, from which inscriptions are often referenced as KAI n (for a number n).[3]
...}

And just so there is no misunderstanding, Semitic means "of an Arab language group".
It does NOT mean Jewish, as all.

{...
Semitic
[səˈmidik]

ADJECTIVE

1. relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2. relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
   ...}
   

And no mention of Arabic prior to 5th c. BCE?

Strange...maybe next time you do better.

 

[Rigby5]

And no mention of Arabic prior to 5th c. BCE?

Strange...maybe next time you do better.

You have a reading problem?
Semitic means of an Arab language group.
The Canaanites were Semitic and go back to before 10,000 BC.
So the they were speaking an Arab language before 10,000 BC.
A 5th century BC, there is a WRITTEN Arab script for Old Arabic.
That means the verbal language has to be hundreds, if not thousands, of year older.
There is no WRITTEN Hebrew script until around 100 BC.

 

[rylah]

The most ancient cultures have the oldest languages, with the least phonemes.
You know nothing of language.
The correct pronunciation of Palestine is "Falestine".
Read up on the Phoenicians, Philistines, Hebrew, etc.
None of them pronounced a hard P.
It was always a soft f sound to them.
That is more proof modern Jews are devoid of any Mideast connection or culture.
They are European Ashkenazi, not Mideast or Iberian Shephardi.
Thanks for helping me remember how modern European Jews do not belong in the Mideast.
Talk about the sins of arrogance and pride.
Mixed with ignorance.

Funny how Hebrew has a P letter,
but Arabs seem to be the only people
on earth who cannot pronounce 'P-alestine'...

Yeah, Arab supremacists love to say they're "the mother and father" of all civilization before them,
to overcompensate for actually being quite the late arrivals in history. Must be quite disappointing.

 

[Rigby5]

Yep, that's why Arab supremacists say they're the mother and father of all civilization before them,
to overcompensate, for actually being quite the late arrivals in history.

Therefore no mention of Arabic prior to 5th c. BCE...

Wrong.
The Canaanites at Jericho are on record as building the very first city in all of human history, around 8000 BC.
And we are NOT talking about Arabic.
We are discussing the previous Arab language, like Old Arabic, Aramaic, Phoenician, etc.

 

[rylah]

Wrong.
The Canaanites at Jericho are on record as building the very first city in all of human history, around 8000 BC.
And we are NOT talking about Arabic.
We are discussing the previous Arab language, like Old Arabic, Aramaic, Phoenician, etc.

That's why the oldest historic reference of Arabic
goes no further than 5th century BCE?

Keep looking.

 

[rylah]

 

[rylah]

 

[Rigby5]

That's why the oldest historic reference of Arabic
goes no further than 5th century BCE?

Keep looking.

Wrong.
We are not talking about Arabic, which is a relatively modern Arab language, about 400BC.
We are talking about original Arab languages, like Old Arabic, which goes back to 10,000 BC, and had written script by 5000 BC,
We are talking about old Arab language like that used by the Phoenicians, Aramaeans, Canaanites, etc.
They predate Hebrew by over 5,000 years.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong.
When the Philistines invaded, Hebrew had no written language yet.
Palestine does not mean Philistine, and the Palestinians are not the Philistines.
Hebrew was not used when the Philistine invaded, and Hebrew is simply an Arab dialect.
Palestine refers to Gaza and the West Bank, it does NOT at all refer to any group of people until the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres.
Only then did the Palestinians become a recognized single group of people.
The Hebrew were illiterate, and their verbal language was never used significantly.
For example, the Dead Sea Scrolls were mostly written in the Arab Aramaic, or Greek.

 

[rylah]

You have a reading problem?
Semitic means of an Arab language group.
The Canaanites were Semitic and go back to before 10,000 BC.
So the they were speaking an Arab language before 10,000 BC.
A 5th century BC, there is a WRITTEN Arab script for Old Arabic.
That means the verbal language has to be hundreds, if not thousands, of year older.
There is no WRITTEN Hebrew script until around 100 BC.

My reading is fine, thank you.

Obviously, if Semitic meant "of an Arab group", there wouldn't be the need for different terms.
Semitic group contains a broad variety of languages, old and modern Arabic being among
them, and relatively the youngest compared to most other Semitic languages,
used for centuries before any mention of Arabs appears in history.

 

[rylah]

Wrong.
We are not talking about Arabic, which is a relatively modern Arab language, about 400BC.
We are talking about original Arab languages, like Old Arabic, which goes back to 10,000 BC, and had written script by 5000 BC,
We are talking about old Arab language like that used by the Phoenicians, Aramaeans, Canaanites, etc.
They predate Hebrew by over 5,000 years.

So we agree, Arabic is relatively the youngest language in the region.

What we disagree upon, is that there's any historic record of Old Arabic
prior to the 5th century BCE, and your applying the term 'Arab' to much
older languages, like Hebrew, centuries before Arabs even appear in history.

Arabs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rylah]

 

[Rigby5]

My reading is fine, thank you.

Obviously, if Semitic meant "of an Arab group", there wouldn't be the need for different terms.
Semitic group contains a broad variety of languages, old and modern Arabic being among
them, and relatively the youngest compared to most other Semitic languages,
used for centuries before any mention of Arabs appears in history.

Wrong conclusion.
Arabs are not inherently Arab, but that is just the label we decided to use for them.
It is a BAD label because it implies they came from Arabia, when in reality the Arabian Peninsula came from the Levant instead.
They should be called Levantines instead.
Arabs appear in history over 12,000 years ago, as the Canaanites around Jericho.
Everyone knows the Canaanites, Urites, Amorites, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabatians, Akkadians, Edomites, etc. are defined as Arab.
Obviously even the ancient Hebrew clearly were Arab.

Ancient Semitic-speaking peoples - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Arab does not mean they came from the Arabian Peninsula.

 

[rylah]

Wrong conclusion.
Arabs are not inherently Arab, but that is just the label we decided to use for them.
It is a BAD label because it implies they came from Arabia, when in reality the Arabian Peninsula came from the Levant instead.
They should be called Levantines instead.
Arabs appear in history over 12,000 years ago, as the Canaanites around Jericho.
Everyone knows the Canaanites, Urites, Amorites, Phoenicians, Philistines, Nabatians, Akkadians, Edomites, etc. are defined as Arab.
Obviously even the ancient Hebrew clearly were Arab.

Ancient Semitic-speaking peoples - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Arab does not mean they came from the Arabian Peninsula.

I know,
Arab supremacists think
they've given birth to the dinosaurs.
But if you need to redefine every term to fit
the narrative, here's already a clue you know it's all void.

Let's face it, you can't find a historic record referring Arabs,
that is prior to the earliest record of Israel - all you're left
with are grandiose lies to overcompensate for that.