Oy! Those Crafty Jews!

[Lisa558]

If Palestinians butcher innocent Jews by the hundreds that is righteous judgment but if Jews kill Palestinians in retaliation that is genocide?

That’s the double standards that is the biggest tell of an antisemite.

The G posters - Gipper, Grau, George Phillip - are all antisemites from the UK who have invaded our American site to spread Jew-hate.

 

[Hafar1014]

Any Israeli Jews killed by Palestinians since 1948 were participating in a racist, illegal occupation.

Does that sound "innocent."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innocent

You cant occupy your own land

 

[Lisa558]

The Muslims are occupying ALL of the Middle East and Northern Africa after they conquered the region. How come these antisemites, crying about 0.5% of the land the Jews are on, never mention THAT?

Oh riiight….the double standards.

 

[JoeB131]

You would be mostly right. The Left was fine with Israel being a state, at least until 1967, when LBJ took them as a US clients after the French bailed out. This pissed off the Soviets and the propaganda campaign began, and all the useful idiots on the 'New LEft' lined up like good lil puppets and have been obedient lil parrots ever since. It is directly linked to the Soveits leading the 'anti-war movement' around by the nose from the 1960's 0nward.

Being Leftist and Anti-Semitic in Germany

After the reunification of Germany, 1989 surveys indicated that there was much more anti-Semitism in West Germany than in East Germany. This was a fallacy arising from the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Since then, Eastern German "anti-Zionism" has merged with Western German...

jcfa.org

Student Radicalization​

During the Six Day War, the New Left definitively transformed its hitherto moderate pro-Arab positions into full support for Arab states and the Palestinians, and its fragile pro-Israeli attitudes dissolved into anti-Semitic slogans thinly disguised as “anti-imperialist” criticism of a “fascist state.”


After 1967, however, not only the radicals but large parts of the German Left turned their backs on Israel. This went hand in hand with protests against the Vietnam War, against the conservative mainstream in Adenauer’s Germany and afterward the “Great Coalition” that was headed from 1966 by Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger, a former member of the Nazi Party.6 The New Left also idealized Communist China and Ho Chi Minh, despite their involvement in mass murder against their own people.7


Well-known intellectuals who were more moderate leftists tried to dissuade the New Left from its extreme positions. Ernst Bloch, Jean Amery, Herbert Marcuse, Iring Fetscher, and Jean-Paul Sartre argued with the radicals and discouraged blind solidarity with the PLO, as opposed to legitimate criticism of Israeli policies. They warned that notions of Israel’s annihilation were intolerable and linked to National Socialist ideology. However, they were not heeded by the radicals.8​

I think you don't see the scope of the problem.

OVERALL, the "New Left" sees racism, apartheid, and colonization as bad things.

For a time, they gave Israel a pass because everyone still felt bad about the Holocaust.

I remember when I was in college and still a Republican, a smarmy liberal Jew on the Student Council was regaling the black kids about how down with the struggle he was in South Africa. So being the instigator that I am (probably my one consistent character trait), I asked "So how is that different than what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?

To which all the brothers challenged him with "Yeah, what about that!"

In short you can't condemn human rights violations in Myanmar or South Africa or Iran, and then pretend what Israel is doing is peachy.

 

[JoeB131]

The Muslims are occupying ALL of the Middle East and Northern Africa after they conquered the region. How come these antisemites, crying about 0.5% of the land the Jews are on, never mention THAT?

Oh riiight….the double standards.

So if a black person steals your purse tomorrow, are you going to be, "Well, that was only 0.5% of my wealth, it will be fine!!!"

Somehow, I don't think you'd be that magnanimous. I suspect we'd never hear the end of it on this board.

But getting back to the supposed Muslim Conquest...

Because it happened thousands of years ago, and for the most part, they were welcomed.

Most of the "Middle East" as you say, was under the rule of either the Byzantine Empire (which was pretty oppressive in how it ruled these lands, where you not only had to be a Christian, but the right kind of Christian or they'd kill you) or the Sassanid Empire (which engaged in centuries of pointless war with the Romans and then the Byzantines.

So when they "conquered" these lands, it was a welcome relief.

Because our view of history tends to be Eurocentric, what everyone forgets is that the Muslim World was centuries ahead of Europe in terms of science and technology. The Europeans only caught up around the Renaissance or so.

 

[gipper]

What documentation do Palestinians have to support their claim that the land does not belong or never belonged to the Jews?

Lol. You know full well.

2000 years living there. Then, you Europeans invaded in the 20th century telling yourselves it’s your land.

STFU!

 

[Hafar1014]

I think you don't see the scope of the problem.

OVERALL, the "New Left" sees racism, apartheid, and colonization as bad things.

For a time, they gave Israel a pass because everyone still felt bad about the Holocaust.

I remember when I was in college and still a Republican, a smarmy liberal Jew on the Student Council was regaling the black kids about how down with the struggle he was in South Africa. So being the instigator that I am (probably my one consistent character trait), I asked "So how is that different than what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?

To which all the brothers challenged him with "Yeah, what about that!"

In short you can't condemn human rights violations in Myanmar or South Africa or Iran, and then pretend what Israel is doing is peachy.

Its very different. Jews are the indigenous people in Israel Judea and Samara and lived there 3000 years before any Muslim existed. There has never been a nation state or actual country called Palestine. The Romans invented that name when they occupied it. Therefore there are no Palestinians. So then are the People of Gaza and the Westbank and how did they get there.
When Israel won the 6 day war many people actually Egyptians left expecting Israel to be destroyed. They lived on the Gaza strip. They tried to return to Egypt but they werent allowed. Egypt lined up tanks and soldiers and barred them from entering Egypt. Israel wasnt going to allow an enemy into Israel after a war so they were trapped in what became Gaza. Gaza was taken over by Hamas who used the Gazans as awns in their losing war against Israel.

The West Bank was created when King Hussein drove Black September(PLO) out of Transjordan
This refers to Black September in 1970–1971, when Jordan's King Hussein launched a military offensive to expel heavily armed Palestinian fedayeen (militants) from the Jordanian History - Jordan Embassy country History of Jordan - Wikipedia. [1, 2]

Key Details & Timeline

• The Spark: The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had gained immense power in Jordan following the 1967 Six-Day War, setting up a "state within a state," challenging the Hashemite monarchy's authority, and hijacking international planes Did the PLO really try and overthrow the Jordanian king? What are the facts of what caused Black September? : r/AskHistorians.
• The Conflict (Sept 1970): King Hussein declared martial law and ordered the Jordanian Armed Forces (primarily Bedouin units loyal to the Crown) to crush the militant factions centered in Amman and northern cities Hussein, King I - Encyclopedia.com. [1, 2, 3]
• The Expulsion (July 1971): Heavy fighting and a Syrian intervention occurred, but by the summer of 1971, the military completely defeated the remaining guerrilla forces, driving them out of the country into Lebanon

Israel isnt going to allow these violent crazies in Israel and the West Bank was created.

Jews legally purchased any land owned by Arabs living in Israel. They also gave some land back and moved Jews out.
So your understanding of history is lie just like everything you post

 

[Hafar1014]

Lol. You know full well.

2000 years living there. Then, you Europeans invaded in the 20th century telling yourselves it’s your land.

STFU!

None Jews lived there 3000 years before Islam existed.

 

[gipper]

None Jews lived there 3000 years before Islam existed.

So?

How are things in Haifa today? Are you depressed about the peace deal? How many Pali babies has the IOF killed in Gaza and WB today?

 

[Hafar1014]

So?

How are things in Haifa today? Are you depressed about the peace deal? How many Pali babies has the IOF killed in Gaza and WB today?

Im in Tel Aviv in a Mossad Meeting. Im preparing for under cover work in Iran. I like the peace deal. We can still do what we think is in our interest and Trump agrees. Hamas is si g an orphanage as base hiding behind the children. We will remove them first then blow the rodents up with a pork fat bomb. That means they cant go to heaven. Theyre so dumb. We use pork fat now on all lur bombs and bullets.

 

[rosends]

So?

So a claim of Arab indigeneity is problematic as, historically, Jewish indigeneity predates it.

 

[Hafar1014]

So a claim of Arab indigeneity is problematic as, historically, Jewish indigeneity predates it.

Not only that but we live there now and will kick ass when they try and take it. They are so dumb. They start a war and lose. Over and over again like drunk who wants to fight everyone and gets beat up.

 

[JoeB131]

Its very different. Jews are the indigenous people in Israel Judea and Samara and lived there 3000 years before any Muslim existed.

well, first, not really true. If anything, the Hebrews were just one tribe among many, and they didn't start exclusively worshipping Yahweh until about 500 BCE. Before that, the majority was polytheistic.

Secondly, the Ashkenazim stopped living there 2000 years ago and had no interest in going back. Before that, they lived in Europe, spoke European languages, and were perfectly fine being Europeans, until the other Europeans turned on them.

The West Bank was created when King Hussein drove Black September(PLO) out of Transjordan
This refers to Black September in 1970–1971, when Jordan's King Hussein launched a military offensive to expel heavily armed Palestinian fedayeen (militants) from the

Um, no, the West Bank was "created" in 1948, when Jordan occupied those territories, and then Israel took them in 1967. Israel doesn't officially annex the West Bank because then it'd have to grant citizenship to the 2.5 million Palestinians who live there.

And this is the problem. For Israel to exist, it has to use legal chicanery to keep the Arab Majority under their boot. Combine the 1 million Arabs in Israel proper, the 2.5 million on the West Bank and the 2 million in Gaza, along with granting right of return to the 2.5 million Palestinians living in exile, Jews would be the minority in Israel.

The best solution would be a two-state solution, but Israel won't go for that, either. At least not in good faith.

Jews legally purchased any land owned by Arabs living in Israel. They also gave some land back and moved Jews out.
So your understanding of history is lie just like everything you post

We cheated you out of that land fair and square!!!

 

[gipper]

Im in Tel Aviv in a Mossad Meeting. Im preparing for under cover work in Iran. I like the peace deal. We can still do what we think is in our interest and Trump agrees. Hamas is si g an orphanage as base hiding behind the children. We will remove them first then blow the rodents up with a pork fat bomb. That means they cant go to heaven. Theyre so dumb. We use pork fat now on all lur bombs and bullets.

Finally you come out. Your Mossad handlers will not be happy.

Are all Arabs and Muslims subhuman, or just Palestinians?

 

[gipper]

So a claim of Arab indigeneity is problematic as, historically, Jewish indigeneity predates it.

BS. Is it your ignorant belief that if any religion predates another, the former can murder and steal the land of the later? Or does this horrendous belief only apply to your people?

The Canaanites predate your religion in Palestine. They have every right to murder you and steal your land, if we follow your ignorant logic.

Stop lying!!!