God says that unbelievers worshipping false gods are fools. Muslims are fools in God's eyes.
Oy! Those Crafty Jews!
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Kruska
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Off course they have - after-all those Palestinians (not Arabs) want their homes and land back. Only degenerates propagate that foreign illegal migrants from Europe had rights to the land of the natives living since partially up to thousands of years on their native land.
gipper
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lol. You obviously know nothing about Islam. They worship the same God fool.
Palestinians want what land back? Land the Palestinian people have owned for hundreds of years? Did they own the disputed land before Jews were displaced from the land by invading hordes? Did they own the land while governed by the invading hordes? Did they buy the land from the invaders? Do they have a divine right to the land?
History of the land of Palestine
History of Palestine
History of Palestine
OverviewPrehistoryAncient HistoryModern Era
Palestine has a rich history as a crossroads of civilizations, religions, and empires, from ancient Canaanite city-states to modern political complexities.
Ancient and Bronze Age History
Palestine, located in the Levant, has been inhabited since prehistoric times, with early agricultural communities emerging around 9000 BCE in areas like Jericho, one of the world's oldest continuously inhabited cities
Iron Age and Israelite Kingdoms
During the Iron Age, the Israelite kingdoms of Israel and Judah emerged in the central hill country, while the Philistines settled along the southern coast and Phoenicians dominated the northern coastal areas
Hellenistic and Roman Periods
Alexander the Great conquered the region in 332 BCE, introducing Hellenistic influences. The Hasmonean revolt (167–160 BCE) established a brief period of Jewish independence, later becoming a Roman vassal state. Rome annexed Palestine in 63 BCE, and Jewish revolts, including the Great Revolt (66–73 CE), culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Second Temple in 70 CE
Byzantine and Early Islamic Rule
Following the division of the Roman Empire, Byzantine rule organized Palestine into provinces such as Palaestina Prima, Secunda, and Tertia World History Edu. The Muslim conquest in the 7th century brought the region under the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, and later Fatimid and Seljuk dynasties, with administration as Jund Filastin
Ottoman Period and British Mandate
In 1516, Palestine became part of the Ottoman Empire, remaining under Ottoman control for four centuries
Modern Era
Today, the term Palestine generally refers to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, territories with complex political status and ongoing disputes with Israel HISTORY. The region remains central to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, reflecting its long history as a crossroads of civilizations and religions HISTORY+1. More than 135 UN member countries recognize Palestine as an independent state, though borders and sovereignty remain contested HISTORY.
Palestine’s history is thus characterized by continuous human habitation, cultural exchange, religious significance, and political contestation, making it one of the most historically rich and complex regions in the world.
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If the UN first recognized Israel's right to ownership of land in Judea before much later unofficially recognizing Palestine as a state with unclear borders and ownership of disputed property, who has a right to claim who is trying to steal land from whom? Under the newly UN-created 'inalienable right of return' do Jews have an inalienable right to return to the entire land of Judea once occupied, controlled, and owned by their forefathers? Or does this newly crafter 'inalienable right only refer to Palestinians who have been trying to drive all Jews from the river to the sea since the UN apportioned a distinct part of Palestine to Jewish ownership in 1948? The Ottoman Turks owned the land before the loss in WW2. Does that mean that lands lost in war must be returned to the original owners such as the Ottoman Turks?
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God honors followers of Jesus, not followers of Muhammad.
Kruska
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The land that illegal European immigrants stole and drove them from in 1948 and still continue to do so.
Yes - off course - Ottoman rule didn't force them to flee their lands - they simply ruled over them. Same goes for the Arab conquest 1400 years ago.
Or did the Yankees rob and steel the houses and lands of the Confederates and force them out of the Confederate States?
What invading hordes? Romans, Greeks, Assyrians and Egyptians weren't hordes. And the natives stayed on their lands no matter who ruled them. Even those Jews who were taken to Babylon were allowed to return. Only those rebellious Jews got kicked out by the Romans. (so maybe you can forward your complaint to the Italians). And they will just laugh their heads off - about some moron who confronts them with something that occurred 1900 years ago under Roman rule.
None of those European invaders were born in Palestine even if they bought property from the British or Arabs. The only natives that adhered to Judaism were those 15,000 amongst 800,000 Muslim and Christian natives in 1917.
What divine right? you mean that made up story in that self-written fantasy book by those Jews, with no proof whatsoever?
Kruska
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Really? - Muslims honor Jesus as much as Jews do. Terming him a prophet of Yahweh or Allah. And not as Gods son - or even better a supposed 1/3 of the holy trinity.
gipper
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lol. You know nothing. Jesus is considered a prophet in Islam.
STFU.
Are you yet another Israeli paid poster?
What were the borders of the land of Palestine at its 1948 beginning?
Did the Palestinians own land before the Ottomans? What were those land's borders and why does history not recognize Palestinian lands before 1948?
Under the UN's doctrine of the 'divine right of return' certainly the Jews had an inalienable right to return and occupy the entire land of Palestine that they once owned completely.
Did northern republicans steal lands belonging to former democrat slave owners after the war? I have never heard that before.
Who has a 'divine right of return' if not the Jews who were driven off their lands thousands of years ago?
Are we to assume that no people have any just claim to property in civilized areas unless they were born there? If 40% of native occupants of the land are Jews and 40% of native occupants of the land are Palestinians then who owns the land, people of both cultures?
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UN Definition of the “Divine Right of Return”
The term “divine right of return” is not a formal UN legal term, but in UN discourse—especially in the context of Palestinian rights—it refers to the right of Palestinian refugees and their descendants to return to the lands they lost in 1948. This right is embedded in multiple UN instruments and resolutions.Core UN Legal Basis
The UN’s position on the right of return is grounded in:- Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR, 1948): Everyone has the right to leave any country, including their own, and to return to it legalclarity.org.
- Article 12(4) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR, 1966): No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter “his own country” legalclarity.org+1.
- UN General Assembly Resolution 194 (1948): Affirms the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes or to receive compensation, and has been affirmed 135 times by the UN www.makan.org.uk.
- Fourth Geneva Convention (1949): Protects the right of displaced persons, including those forced from their homes by war Wikipedia.
JoeB131
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Actually, its kind of the opposite.
"Anti-Semitism" is kind of a silly argument because 1) "Semite" is an artificial racial term created by people who couldn't separate their religious superstition from their science, and 2) by definition, the Arabs are a "Semitic" people.
So you are "anti-Semitic" if you oppose Jews (Semites) killing Arabs (also Semites)?
1 Timothy 4
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
gipper
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How are things in Tel Aviv? Did you take the boat tour along the Gaza coast and celebrate the death and destruction?
Did you get training from Mossad before posting here? How much do they pay you?
georgephillip
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The IDF is guilty of committing regular war crimes in Palestine and elsewhere:
GoogleAI Overview:
"Discoveries of Mass Graves
- "Summary Executions: Several mass graves have been uncovered at major medical complexes, including Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis and Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. The United Nations Human Rights Office documented that numerous recovered bodies were found with their hands and feet tied, strongly indicating unlawful detention and summary executions of individuals who were hors de combat (out of combat). [1, 2]"
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The word was coined with a meaning, and as a unit ("anti-semitism"). It meant and means "anti-Jew". Trying to break it into parts and then reimagine it is intellectually dishonest.
Separate question, would you consider Iranians to be "semites"?
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