Oy! Those Crafty Jews!

[shockedcanadian]

Hatred of Jews just started with Bibi? Have you seen the 2,000 year history of persecution, pograms, expulsions, blood libel, mass murder?!

The antisemites had been looking for an excuse to spew their venom. They were out calling for Death to Jews within days of the 10/7 massacre. It was all orchestrated ahead of time.

I mean recently obviously.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This forum has several Muslims who pretend that they are not Muslims so they can spread hatred of Jews.


It is all they do here and they have LOTS of support.

 

[Kruska]

What about Soros? He went house to house, turning Jews over to the Nazis, and when asked as an adult if he regrets it, he said nope.

He also admits he was raised in an antisemitic JINO* household.

Jewish in Name Only

Based on verified historical records and fact-checking reports, the claim that George Soros betrayed Jewish people—specifically by collaborating with Nazis during the Holocaust—is false. These accusations are considered part of a long-standing, antisemitic conspiracy theory that misrepresents his actions as a child survivor.

You are spreading antisemitic claims and propaganda - double shame on YOU!!

 

[georgephillip]

What is Zionism? It essentially is a broad notion that Jews have a right to a homeland and self-determination free of those people who want to murder them. In fact, the UN agreed with them in 1947 and recognized Israe

Have you seen a definition of Zionism which gives European Jews the right to steal Arab land in Palestine, murdering, maiming, and displacing millions of their victims?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I am going to say something that may be unpopular with some of our Israeli friends who partake in this site but I suspect that the vast majority of any perceived "hatred" of Jews today has a great deal to do with the Bibi government. I do not follow him closely enough to know his policies in-depth but with his forced government coalition has really damaged his reputation.

For the record, in Israel, a staunchly proud free nation (more free than 90% of the West); he is particular controversial especially in some corners as they apparently tried to punish free speech. This is antithesis to Judaism.

I listen to many Israeli speakers, some by a function of listening to Judaism teachings and the algorithm organically refers me to other similar interests, in other moments it is due to my pursuit of information after Oct 7th or the Iranian war.

I tend to respect guys like Johnathan Conricus since he is a logical, deliberate speaker and former higher up in the IDF. He has been fair in agreeing that criticism of IDF is sometimes warranted and should be investigated if an individual breaks the law, taking a neutral stance of criticism of his government while also being a proud Israeli and defender of Israel.

No one should begrudge anyone for patriotism. Where there are problems is when one lies when they know they are wrong in the face of injustice simply because it is "my team". If someone suggests that a nation, government or military has never done anything wrong and is impossible, I cannot trust them to be at least honest in the face of facts.

Judaism when practiced properly is a beautiful religion and it demands the enacting of a justice system. It is a religion that allows the pursuits of all people, poor or otherwise. Anyone who despises Jews carte blache is ignorant, plain and simple.

The dislike of the current government is causing some to conflate them with Judaism. It is wrong-headed.

For Both Israel and the West, It's Bibi or Be Nowhere

His Jewish opponents are like the German Jews who didn't take Naziism seriously until it was too late. Israel has been fighting for its life throughout its whole existence. Europe, India, and the formerly United States are next on the Jihad agenda.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Both him and his son need an 0-dark-thirty visit by hard steely-eyed men and a burial at sea, much like bin Laden was. I really don't care which government pulls it off.

Who's Been a-Beddin' Abedin?

Then Huma will become the Globalist Empress.

 

[georgephillip]

For Both Israel and the West, It's Bibi or Be Nowhere

His Jewish opponents are like the German Jews who didn't take Naziism seriously until it was too late. Israel has been fighting for its life throughout its whole existence. Europe, India, and the formerly United States are next on the Jihad agenda.

You forgot NATO

 

[SaxonJackson]

Oy! Those Crafty Jews

Antisemitism is an ancient concept which has just now moved back above the fold.

www.americanthinker.com

I place this post here, in Current Events, because expressing hatred for Jews is in the news a lot these days. Hating on Jews has been a favorite pastime for many a folk with grievance for quite a long time. The last really big anti-Jew movement was back during the 1930s and 1940s. But then Hitler screwed it up by taking it too far. Today's Jew hatred is based upon the Muslim model. Since it has gotten really ramped up, you now see all sorts of Jew hatred crawling out of the woodwork, both from the right and the left. A lot of folks out there just PLAIN HATE THE JEWS!

I have long espoused the theory that the term "Zionism" is a dog-whistle for anti-Semitism. It is code. You will read people condemning Zionism vehemently, then ridiculously arguing that it does not equate to antisemitism. Then, if you disagree with them and their objections to so-called "Zionism", the claim "Well, you just don't understand, man...". In all of their morass of pseudo-intellectual garbage there are 2 facts. First, the people who espouse anti-Zionism are either (a) Muslims who want to violently murder all Jews, or (b) antisemitic bigots. Second, the non-muslim antisemitic bigots' intellectual capacity is right on par with the run-of-the-mill conspiratorialist. Sure, such a person may be "intelligent" in some form. But they are too goofy to know their limitations or too brain-fried to discipline their work with logic.

What is Zionism? It essentially is a broad notion that Jews have a right to a homeland and self-determination free of those people who want to murder them. In fact, the UN agreed with them in 1947 and recognized Israel as the Jewish state. This entire idea is not knew. For example, Russia has been barbarically invaded for centuries. As a result, they like to have a buffer around them. Most recently with the Soviet Union, the used the Eastern European countries (the spoils of Stalin's campaign to destroy the Nazis). Even today you see the tendency in Putin to want to buffer Russia's borders. Likewise, the Jews desired a peaceful existence, secure from all of the antisemitic violence that had stalked them for centuries. Thus, in theory, this is pretty sound thinking and quite rational.
What about Zionism in practice? What, if any, non-Jews are disadvantaged by Israel's Zionism? In my opinion, nobody worth a damn is affected. Essentially, you have the descendants of nomadic Arabs in the Gaza, the West Bank, and Golan Heights. These people want to violently murder all Jews and their children. Why? Are they just a wee bit miffed over Zionistic dislocation? If so, then today's antizionists may have some degree of a point. However, anti-Jewish hatred and violence long predates Zionism. They hate the Jews. Period.

Gazans essentially had self-rule over Gaza a couple of years ago when Hamas sent murderers across their border and into Israel to murder, rape, and kidnap innocents. Reprisal for Zionism? I think not. The fact is that the so-called Palestinian people could have had their own sovereign state YEARS AGO (under Arafat) had they simply played ball. But they did not. They allowed themselves to fall victim to their hatred of Jews and largely lost the opportunity, and all because they refused to acknowledge Israel's right to exist (which every nation-state on Earth already acknowledged). Instead, they were necessarily subjected to Israeli security actions. They were not oppressed by Israel at this time. But Hamas had proven itself to be so dangerous and irrational that Israel had to take action. It would have been malfeasance if they did not act to protect themselves.

As I previously mentioned, there are 2 types of people who rant about Zionism. First, there are the Jew-hating muslims. They are a lost cause. No rehabilitation for them is possible as a group. Then there are the non-muslim goof balls. I wonder about these people. What kind of nitwit, in light of the facts I set forth herein and the modern history of this region, can actually rant at Israel over Zionism. Are they completely stupid? I will say this: When these people are confronted with fact and educated argument, they (1) get angry, thereby exposing and irrational bias; and (2) resort to the simplistic mantra "Zionism". The term "Zionism" itself is quite open to interpretation. Does the term genuinely include all the mischief alleged by the antizionists, or are they misusing, and abusing the term, to justify their anti-Semitic bigotry?

Think about this. Who benefits from anti-Zionism? The so-called Palestinians people, who are led by Hamas, a violent Jihadist terror group. Why is Hamas leading the Palestinian people (at least, in Gaza)" Because the "Palestinian" people want them to lead. Are the West Bank Arabs any better off under the PA? They do tend to be a little more tightly wrapped. But they are just as giddy about murdering Jews. These people would gladly blow up and otherwise murder Christians, gays, women, whatever does not comport to their beliefs. They are not good people. They are not civilized. They are not democratic. They are a bunch of Fred Flintstones. Even other Arab countries do not want them. THIS IS WHO YOU ANTI-ZIONIST PEOPLE ARE ALIGNING YOURSELVES WITH. That is DISGUSTING.

Anything that diminishes Israel's right to defend its people, even with the strictest interpretation of Zionism you want to give it, is asking Israel to sacrifice some of its own people. I can think of little more than is more anti-Semitic than this, other than gas chambers and ovens. Therein lies the rub. With each and every one of you antizionist ding-dongs out there, the result of you getting your way is that there will be more dead Jews. And you clearly do not have a problem with this.

Memo: Disagreeing with Zionism isn't "hatred for the jews." That's an asinine conclusion to come to. We can also disagree with the religion of Judaism and not "hate jews."

As a Christian, I obviously believe in Christ. I'm going to disagree with people who don't believe in Christ. There are many members on this board who don't accept Christ and many of them are not jews. That doesn't mean I "hate" them.

We're permitted to disagree with all sorts of "isms." I disagree with Communism, Socialism, Zionism, Hinduism, Taoism, Islam, Buddhism, Catholicism, and many more. That doesn't mean that I wake up hating the world.

Super childish argument.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Their liberalism supersedes their Judaism. Scary.

I know a self-loathing radical left Jew. She was marching with the pro-Palestinians as they chanted “Death to Jews!” a week after the 10/7 massacre.

She is totally secular.

Wow, this coming from a right wing, racist Jew.