Over 100,000 people expected to attend Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service tomorrow.

[westwall]

Erika prays for lost souls like you.

Yup. She's a far better person than I.

 

[progressive hunter]

Kirk didn't deserve to die, and I hope his assassin faces the full extent of the law, but I celebrate the fact that there is one less divider.

lying *****,, youve been pushing for violence for years

 

[Rawley]

Kirk didn't deserve to die, and I hope his assassin faces the full extent of the law, but I celebrate the fact that there is one less divider.

So you celebrate his death.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Kirk didn't deserve to die, and I hope his assassin faces the full extent of the law, but I celebrate the fact that there is one less divider.

He was nowhere near the divider that Biden was.

 

[toobfreak]

He was one of a kind. He had a unique style of talking directly one on one with whomever wanted to speak. He clearly inspired many in his young life, and what he has started with Turning Point is only going to keep growing. There are over 60,000 applications for new Turning Point Chapters and memberships. RIP Charlie

Wow. 200,000 attended. I caught an interview with the guy who helped get Charlie started early in life. Kirk was like only 18, had some falling out with college, and talking to this guy explaining his goals, the guy told Kirk the sacrifices he had to make, the hard work he needed to do and all the stuff he needed to learn so he could go out and confront and answer so many questions.

He said some time later, Kirk sent him a copy of his receipt from Hillsdale College for his completing some course.

Over the next few years, Charlie sent him receipts from his having completed THIRTY college courses from Hillsdale.

 

[westwall]

Wow. 200,000 attended. I caught an interview with the guy who helped get Charlie started early in life. Kirk was like only 18, had some falling out with college, and talking to this guy explaining his goals, the guy told Kirk the sacrifices he had to make, the hard work he needed to do and all the stuff he needed to learn so he could go out and confront and answer so many questions.

He said some time later, Kirk sent him a copy of his receipt from Hillsdale College for his completing some course.

Over the next few years, Charlie sent him receipts from his having completed THIRTY college courses from Hillsdale.

Thirty one, actually.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

 

[frigidweirdo]

He was one of a kind. He had a unique style of talking directly one on one with whomever wanted to speak. He clearly inspired many in his young life, and what he has started with Turning Point is only going to keep growing. There are over 60,000 applications for new Turning Point Chapters and memberships. RIP Charlie

Nearly 100,000 people expected at Charlie Kirk’s funeral and memorial service: Live

The public memorial service and funeral for Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and close ally of President Donald Trump, who was killed last week, will be held in Arizona on Sunday morning amid tight security.

www.the-independent.com

Yes, he was different. He inspired people... but to what?

My work colleague he had views that are nothing short of racist, even though he doesn't appear to be a racist. He'd use tactics to get around the fact that he was wrong like "I'm just putting it out there", as if he didn't believe what he was saying, but you could tell he did.

He said, for example, "black people preferred the US under segregation" (the dude is from the Florida to Louisiana area, last lived in Mississippi.

It's the sort of thing that he'd say "oh, but it's just a fact", but the reality is, it's implying that segregation was somehow good. It wasn't.

Just because a lot of black people live in a society with too much violence, too much income inequality, doesn't mean that we should go back to segregation.

It's basically saying "we can't improve things, we have to have that, or this, nothing else is available".

If my work colleague was "inspired" by Kirk, and I think he was, as he changed the way he spoke to me in recent times, then Kirk was a ******* moron who was trying to take the country to a bad place.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't know. Being a true believer and within driving distance, you might actually get something out of the communal experience of actually being there, surrounded by like-minded individuals in that moment.

They might start telling each other how great fascism is, and racism, and misogyny and all the other ways of pounding on people for who they are.

 

[frigidweirdo]

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And do you not think there's a difference?

One was part of the ruling elite, part of the white men with lots of money.

The other was part of the downtrodden, a person with no hope, was black, was brought up with parents who'd separated, who tried to make it in the system but didn't and wasn't rich.

 

[MarathonMike]

then Kirk was a ******* moron who was trying to take the country to a bad place.

Have you ever heard Charlie Kirk speak on any subject? You can be a hater, but calling him a moron is absurd. The man was brilliant, he was an entrepreneur and a visionary. He was instrumental in delivering a significant number of young voters to Trump. That's probably why you hate him.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

And do you not think there's a difference?

One was part of the ruling elite, part of the white men with lots of money.

The other was part of the downtrodden, a person with no hope, was black, was brought up with parents who'd separated, who tried to make it in the system but didn't and wasn't rich.

Well, there are a lot of downtrodden poor white people and Black people in America. They Grow up with very tough circumstances, drug addicted parents, one parent or both dead or in jail. They rise up in a country like America, where such people have risen from poverty to middle class or better.

Then we got people like George Floyd, who reportedly held a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach, who beat up his girlfriend, who was a drug dealer. And the left-wing goes on an insane riot rampage for this guy who was super high on drugs and resisting arrest and died during an altercation with police. And there’s riots all over the country. And then you have Charlie Kirk a guy who lifted people up who inspired black and white Americans to become more Christian. And he gets murdered by an assassin…. But no rioting by his supporters instead people celebrating Charlie’s life…. praising Jesus and growing closer to our Lord.

What are you doing?


It’s really unfortunate to see a percentage of Democrats go down the road They’re going down. From being the party of the working man, standing up for the poor to this race and gender nonsense….. They are insulting Charlie Kirk. They are trying to reinvent the definition of the word racism. They don’t give a darn that Charlie Kirk hired Candace Owens a black woman who was a huge part of Turning point. They don’t give a darn that Charlie Kirk championed meritocracy he wanted the color blind society.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Have you ever heard Charlie Kirk speak on any subject? You can be a hater, but calling him a moron is absurd. The man was brilliant, he was an entrepreneur and a visionary. He was instrumental in delivering a significant number of young voters to Trump. That's probably why you hate him.

Yep. Not before he died. But I went and had a look.

I'm going to try and prove my point, I can't find the videos I watched before, so I'm going to choose one at random and see what I can get from that.



17 minutes in, he's talking to a guy in a black/dark gray t-shirt.

"Why do you think the US is so divided?" the kid asks.

"Has there been an instance, guys, where a liberal has had an open mike on campus where conservative kids can ask questions and you guys feel respected?"

He didn't answer the question.

"How many of you kids here on campus, raise your hand, feel as if you're graded down if you come out as a liberal or a Trump supporter?"

And most of the crowd seems to put their hand up.

"It is not because of conservatives".....

You want to know why the US is so divided? Because people like Kirk are dividing. He's literally dividing with his statement.

"I'm trying to find common ground"... you don't find common ground by telling all the liberals that it's THEIR FAULT. You're just dividing them.

He hasn't answered the question when he asks some kid to come out because he says he got punched by a professor for wearing a MAGA hat. It's still not answering the question. It's still pushing his view that it's all liberals' fault.

I could go through lots of videos and find the same thing.

One I had seen was about a girl who spoke about democracy and Kirk said "Where in the Constitution does it mention democracy?" And just kept repeating this, until the girl made a claim something like "I know this country is a Republic and not a democracy", which is a dumb thing to say, and Kirk did not tell her she was wrong, even though she was totally wrong. "Republic" has nothing to do with being a democracy or not. China is a Republic. The top countries for democracy, Norway isn't, Sweden isn't, New Zealand isn't, but Iceland is.

Do you know the difference between Iceland and the other three countries? All have democracy, all have people voting. The difference is three have monarchs and one doesn't.

But Kirk was happy to let people think the US isn't a democracy because A) it's not explicit in the Constitution and B) because she said the US isn't because it's a Republic.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Well, there are a lot of downtrodden poor white people and Black people in America. They Grow up with very tough circumstances, drug addicted parents, one parent or both dead or in jail. They rise up in a country like America, where such people have risen from poverty to middle class or better.

Then we got people like George Floyd, who reportedly held a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach, who beat up his girlfriend, who was a drug dealer. And the left-wing goes on an insane riot rampage for this guy who was super high on drugs and resisting arrest and died during an altercation with police. And there’s riots all over the country. And then you have Charlie Kirk a guy who lifted people up who inspired black and white Americans to become more Christian. And he gets murdered by an assassin…. But no rioting by his supporters instead people celebrating Charlie’s life…. praising Jesus and growing closer to our Lord.

What are you doing?


It’s really unfortunate to see a percentage of Democrats go down the road They’re going down. From being the party of the working man, standing up for the poor to this race and gender nonsense….. They are insulting Charlie Kirk. They are trying to reinvent the definition of the word racism. They don’t give a darn that Charlie Kirk hired Candace Owens a black woman who was a huge part of Turning point. They don’t give a darn that Charlie Kirk championed meritocracy he wanted the color blind society.

There are a lot of downtrodden people in the US. Income inequality gets worse every recession. The government has a boom and bust policy inherent, the President has three years 10 months or something to convince people his economy is booming so he can get back in power, or so his VP can get into the job.

However black people are far more likely to be in poverty than white people.

Floyd was born in Fayetteville, in the North Carolina, a Southern state.

Census profile: Fayetteville, NC

Census data for Fayetteville, NC (pop. 209,485), including age, race, sex, income, poverty, marital status, education and more.

censusreporter.org

14.5% of people in Fayetteville are in poverty, 16.1% in the metro area.

North Carolina has a poverty rate of 12.8%, so Fayetteville is higher than that.

Fayetteville, NC Median Household Income By Race - 2025 Update | Neilsberg

Discover the dynamic shifts in median household income in Fayetteville, NC across diverse racial identified by the U.S. Census Bureau.

www.neilsberg.com

White median income is $67,415
Black media income is $48,242

Fayetteville, NC Demographics and Population Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Full demographic report of Fayetteville, NC population including education levels, household income, job market, ethnic makeup, and languages.

www.neighborhoodscout.com

41% of people are black, 34.8% of people are white

I can't find the percentage of blacks or whites in poverty, but it's going to follow the same pattern as everywhere else in the US, which is that black people are twice or three times more likely to be in poverty.

Introducing the New North Carolina Racial Equity Dashboard

LEAD recently released the NC Racial Equity Dashboard that examines demographic and economic data by race and ethnicity statewide, as well as by county for select measures. While this blog highlights three key findings from the dashboard to get you started, we encourage you to investigate the...

www.commerce.nc.gov

Black people in North Carolina are more than two times more likely to be unemployed, educational achievement is lower for black people, and poverty is

• Black: 20.3%
• White: 9.8%

The thing is, some people rise up. DJ Vance rose up. Why? Because he's smart, he didn't have the same problems as the rest of his family who are doomed to stay hillbillies for generation after generation.

Some will rise up, but statistically most won't. Which is why you end up with ghettos.

Floyd moved to Houston and stayed in a mostly black neighborhood, got a football scholarship, maybe the only way he was going to go to college. But dropped out, probably because he couldn't do college well. He returned to Houston and within three years was committing crime. Why?

Perhaps because he found it difficult to get a job, who knows? What we do know is that this story plays out a lot all of the US. It wasn't about just Floyd, it was about all of the US, the inequality.

Kids being born unequal, finding the opportunities are not there, then finding crime because... well, it pays better.

The politicians don't do anything about it. You want to change that, then you need people to listen. If you don't burn things down, they WILL IGNORE YOU.

Kirk doesn't need to heard, he was already heard. He didn't fact inequality (just DEI which they made a huge thing of), white men control EVERYTHING.

They don't want to change the system, they don't want to stop the ghettos, they don't want to stop the inequality, they want to keep things as they are. They don't need to be heard, so they don't need to burn things down, they already have the ghettos, they already have the poverty, they have what they want, they've prevented people from rising so they can control.

That's the difference. And I know most people like you will prefer to ignore.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

And do you not think there's a difference?

One was part of the ruling elite, part of the white men with lots of money.

The other was part of the downtrodden, a person with no hope, was black, was brought up with parents who'd separated, who tried to make it in the system but didn't and wasn't rich.

Assuming for a moment your comparison is valid, I don’t know what this has to do with the different reactions to their deaths.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Assuming for a moment your comparison is valid, I don’t know what this has to do with the different reactions to their deaths.

What are the aims for what is happening?

For Floyd, it's about civil rights, trying to stop the poverty, stop the police brutality.
For Kirk, it's about trying to push an agenda of conservatism.

The reactions are because of the circumstances. With Floyd they want change, they do not control the politics, but they want to be heard. With Kirk, they control the politics and do not want to change, do not need to be heard, because they're already heard.

That's the difference.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

What are the aims for what is happening?

For Floyd, it's about civil rights, trying to stop the poverty, stop the police brutality.
For Kirk, it's about trying to push an agenda of conservatism.

Uh, no. The reaction to Floyd’s death may have been to promote civil rights and stop police brutality but pushing a conservative agenda was Kirk’s goal, not the reaction to his murder.

The reactions are because of the circumstances. With Floyd they want change, they do not control the politics, but they want to be heard. With Kirk, they control the politics and do not want to change, do not need to be heard, because they're already heard.

That's the difference.

And he was murdered for it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Uh, no. The reaction to Floyd’s death may have been to promote civil rights and stop police brutality but pushing a conservative agenda was Kirk’s goal, not the reaction to his murder.


And he was murdered for it.

I'd say that people who push a conservative agenda are using Kirk's death to promote their own agenda.

I saw a poster on a photo on a BBC article that said "They shot Charlie Kirk"

Who is "they"? Only one person shot Charlie Kirk and there's no evidence who cooperated with anyone is the matter.

But the right are making out "THE LEFT" did this.

 

[struth]

There are a lot of downtrodden people in the US. Income inequality gets worse every recession. The government has a boom and bust policy inherent, the President has three years 10 months or something to convince people his economy is booming so he can get back in power, or so his VP can get into the job.

However black people are far more likely to be in poverty than white people.

Floyd was born in Fayetteville, in the North Carolina, a Southern state.

Census profile: Fayetteville, NC

Census data for Fayetteville, NC (pop. 209,485), including age, race, sex, income, poverty, marital status, education and more.

censusreporter.org

14.5% of people in Fayetteville are in poverty, 16.1% in the metro area.

North Carolina has a poverty rate of 12.8%, so Fayetteville is higher than that.

Fayetteville, NC Median Household Income By Race - 2025 Update | Neilsberg

Discover the dynamic shifts in median household income in Fayetteville, NC across diverse racial identified by the U.S. Census Bureau.

www.neilsberg.com

White median income is $67,415
Black media income is $48,242

Fayetteville, NC Demographics and Population Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Full demographic report of Fayetteville, NC population including education levels, household income, job market, ethnic makeup, and languages.

www.neighborhoodscout.com

41% of people are black, 34.8% of people are white

I can't find the percentage of blacks or whites in poverty, but it's going to follow the same pattern as everywhere else in the US, which is that black people are twice or three times more likely to be in poverty.

Introducing the New North Carolina Racial Equity Dashboard

LEAD recently released the NC Racial Equity Dashboard that examines demographic and economic data by race and ethnicity statewide, as well as by county for select measures. While this blog highlights three key findings from the dashboard to get you started, we encourage you to investigate the...

www.commerce.nc.gov

Black people in North Carolina are more than two times more likely to be unemployed, educational achievement is lower for black people, and poverty is

• Black: 20.3%
• White: 9.8%

The thing is, some people rise up. DJ Vance rose up. Why? Because he's smart, he didn't have the same problems as the rest of his family who are doomed to stay hillbillies for generation after generation.

Some will rise up, but statistically most won't. Which is why you end up with ghettos.

Floyd moved to Houston and stayed in a mostly black neighborhood, got a football scholarship, maybe the only way he was going to go to college. But dropped out, probably because he couldn't do college well. He returned to Houston and within three years was committing crime. Why?

Perhaps because he found it difficult to get a job, who knows? What we do know is that this story plays out a lot all of the US. It wasn't about just Floyd, it was about all of the US, the inequality.

Kids being born unequal, finding the opportunities are not there, then finding crime because... well, it pays better.

The politicians don't do anything about it. You want to change that, then you need people to listen. If you don't burn things down, they WILL IGNORE YOU.

Kirk doesn't need to heard, he was already heard. He didn't fact inequality (just DEI which they made a huge thing of), white men control EVERYTHING.

They don't want to change the system, they don't want to stop the ghettos, they don't want to stop the inequality, they want to keep things as they are. They don't need to be heard, so they don't need to burn things down, they already have the ghettos, they already have the poverty, they have what they want, they've prevented people from rising so they can control.

That's the difference. And I know most people like you will prefer to ignore.

Floyd wasn’t living in NC

He moved to tampon Timmy’s left wing utopia and was killed by his cops

 

[westwall]

I'd say that people who push a conservative agenda are using Kirk's death to promote their own agenda.

I saw a poster on a photo on a BBC article that said "They shot Charlie Kirk"

Who is "they"? Only one person shot Charlie Kirk and there's no evidence who cooperated with anyone is the matter.

But the right are making out "THE LEFT" did this.

Because the "left" has been lying about Kirks message for years. And those lies motivated a LEFTIST to murder Charlie Kirk.