Over 100,000 people expected to attend Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service tomorrow.

[struth]

That's OK. You refuse to accept the truth about Kirk just like you refuse to accept the truth about trump. It's what cult members do.

Even in death Kirk is exposing Dems as the pathetic liars u are

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

There are a lot of downtrodden people in the US. Income inequality gets worse every recession. The government has a boom and bust policy inherent, the President has three years 10 months or something to convince people his economy is booming so he can get back in power, or so his VP can get into the job.

However black people are far more likely to be in poverty than white people.

Floyd was born in Fayetteville, in the North Carolina, a Southern state.

Census profile: Fayetteville, NC

Census data for Fayetteville, NC (pop. 209,485), including age, race, sex, income, poverty, marital status, education and more.

censusreporter.org

14.5% of people in Fayetteville are in poverty, 16.1% in the metro area.

North Carolina has a poverty rate of 12.8%, so Fayetteville is higher than that.

Fayetteville, NC Median Household Income By Race - 2025 Update | Neilsberg

Discover the dynamic shifts in median household income in Fayetteville, NC across diverse racial identified by the U.S. Census Bureau.

www.neilsberg.com

White median income is $67,415
Black media income is $48,242

Fayetteville, NC Demographics and Population Statistics - NeighborhoodScout

Full demographic report of Fayetteville, NC population including education levels, household income, job market, ethnic makeup, and languages.

www.neighborhoodscout.com

41% of people are black, 34.8% of people are white

I can't find the percentage of blacks or whites in poverty, but it's going to follow the same pattern as everywhere else in the US, which is that black people are twice or three times more likely to be in poverty.

Introducing the New North Carolina Racial Equity Dashboard

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Black people in North Carolina are more than two times more likely to be unemployed, educational achievement is lower for black people, and poverty is

• Black: 20.3%
• White: 9.8%

The thing is, some people rise up. DJ Vance rose up. Why? Because he's smart, he didn't have the same problems as the rest of his family who are doomed to stay hillbillies for generation after generation.

Some will rise up, but statistically most won't. Which is why you end up with ghettos.

Floyd moved to Houston and stayed in a mostly black neighborhood, got a football scholarship, maybe the only way he was going to go to college. But dropped out, probably because he couldn't do college well. He returned to Houston and within three years was committing crime. Why?

Perhaps because he found it difficult to get a job, who knows? What we do know is that this story plays out a lot all of the US. It wasn't about just Floyd, it was about all of the US, the inequality.

Kids being born unequal, finding the opportunities are not there, then finding crime because... well, it pays better.

The politicians don't do anything about it. You want to change that, then you need people to listen. If you don't burn things down, they WILL IGNORE YOU.

Kirk doesn't need to heard, he was already heard. He didn't fact inequality (just DEI which they made a huge thing of), white men control EVERYTHING.

They don't want to change the system, they don't want to stop the ghettos, they don't want to stop the inequality, they want to keep things as they are. They don't need to be heard, so they don't need to burn things down, they already have the ghettos, they already have the poverty, they have what they want, they've prevented people from rising so they can control.

That's the difference. And I know most people like you will prefer to ignore.

Nope poverty doesn’t provide an excuse for crime. I have lived in Cambodia and spent long amount of times in Thailand, where there are areas with massive poverty, but not a level of crime and danger like we have in parts of the US.

The issue is culture. That is why for example young white men are over represented when it comes to mass school shooters, and why young black men are over represented and gang violence. Such issues are existing today that did not exist in such a way in the past in the United States when we had a strong middle class by the way for much of the 20th Century…. Also, the divorce rate was lower and the nuclear family was much stronger in the American past compared to today.

The warped left wing ideology is a major turn off for many voters.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Don’t try playing the lone intellect here. In Kirk’s case you gave reasons of an agenda. In Floyd’s case you gave excuses for looting, vandalism and arson.

Aside from that, the agenda during the riots was defunding the police. Speaking of which, in response to your comments about their saying “They killed Charlie Kirk”, they did the same thing with Michael Brown and George Floyd, projecting the idea that law enforcement as a whole was guilty of their deaths due to LE being a systemically racist institution when only two officers were involved.

In both cases I gave the response that happened.

I'm not the one who carried out what happened. I don't need excuses. I don't like rioting, I think there are better ways of doing things.

Yes, defund the police was stupid, wasn't going to get anyone anywhere.

Yeah, I'm sure people did blame the whole of the police.

I do think the police, especially at a local level, does need reforming though.

However, with the police, there are plenty of cases of local law enforcement being racist and being overly violent. Far more than there are of people assassinating politicians.

 

[drudge X]

In both cases I gave the response that happened.

I'm not the one who carried out what happened. I don't need excuses. I don't like rioting, I think there are better ways of doing things.

Yes, defund the police was stupid, wasn't going to get anyone anywhere.

Yeah, I'm sure people did blame the whole of the police.

I do think the police, especially at a local level, does need reforming though.

However, with the police, there are plenty of cases of local law enforcement being racist and being overly violent. Far more than there are of people assassinating politicians.

Why is police misconduct always in leftist run cities?

 

[Moonglow]

Why is police misconduct always in leftist run cities?

Because you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other when the rightist dood it. Take yer cracker ass cops in Mississippi that gotz in trouble.

Multiple police officers in Mississippi have faced serious consequences for misconduct, most notably the "Goon Squad" case involving former Rankin County deputies and a Richland officer. The U.S. Department of Justice has also investigated other departments for abuses.
The "Goon Squad" case
In 2024, six former law enforcement officers were sentenced to decades in federal prison for torturing and assaulting two Black men, Michael Jenkins and Eddie Parker, in Rankin County in 2023.

• The crime: Responding to a racist tip, the six white officers broke into a home without a warrant and subjected Jenkins and Parker to an hour-and-a-half-long attack. The abuse included beating them, using Tasers, and sexually assaulting them. One of the officers shot Jenkins in the mouth during a mock execution, leaving him with a shattered jaw.
• The cover-up: After the assault, the officers, some of whom called themselves the "Goon Squad," planted a gun and fabricated a story to cover their actions.
• Convictions: All six officers pleaded guilty to both federal civil rights charges and state charges of obstruction of justice, conspiracy, and assault.
• Sentences: The sentences ranged from 10 to 40 years in prison.

Lexington Police Department
In September 2024, the Department of Justice concluded an investigation into the City of Lexington and its police department, finding a pattern of abusive and discriminatory practices.

• Abuse of power: The investigation found that officers had regularly arrested people for minor infractions and held them until fines were paid.
• ACLU lawsuit: The ACLU of Mississippi has also filed a separate lawsuit seeking damages against the city and its police officers for the wrongful arrest of a civil rights attorney.

Other reported abuses
A 2024 report by Mississippi Today and The New York Times documented decades of allegations of abuses, corruption, and misconduct by sheriff's offices across the state.

• Widespread problems: The investigation included reports of sex abuse, torture, bribery, and retaliation in numerous counties, and also revealed that some of the "Goon Squad" officers had been involved in other violent encounters dating back to 2019.
• Accountability issues: The report highlighted a systemic culture of ignoring complaints and a lack of accountability.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Nope poverty doesn’t provide an excuse for crime. I have lived in Cambodia and spent long amount of times in Thailand, where there are areas with massive poverty, but not a level of crime and danger like we have in parts of the US.

The issue is culture. That is why for example young white men are over represented when it comes to mass school shooters, and why young black men are over represented and gang violence. Such issues are existing today that did not exist in such a way in the past in the United States when we had a strong middle class by the way for much of the 20th Century…. Also, the divorce rate was lower and the nuclear family was much stronger in the American past compared to today.

The warped left wing ideology is a major turn off for many voters.

Ah, the word "excuse".

People in poverty are more likely to commit certain types of crime, especially low level financial crimes (the sort where you steal two bucks and get locked up for 20 years, rather than stealing fifty million bucks and getting one year in a nice prison).

Drug crimes are usually about poverty, because these people have nothing to lose.

Yes, gang violence is part of the problem, why is there gang violence?

Because areas of poverty are made, people wake up every day and see no hope around them.

Other countries will have low cost housing and high cost housing in the same areas, so that people don't feel like this. Communities don't die, gangs don't take over, people are less likely to commit crime, less likely to be in gangs.

This conversation hardly ever happens. Politicians don't want to do the work, they just want to collect the money, people who don't live in such areas are happy they don't live there, until their friends or families get killed, at least.

Yes, warped ideology is awful. Guess who's been talking about Proportional Representation on this board for 11 years? Me.

PR leads to better politicians, better political parties that have to stand for something. The crazies get their own party that sits at the fringes of politics, and the mainstream gets on with actually running the country PROPERLY.

But people like kyzr, who declared his love for the two party system because it's so simple he can understand "hate democrats, democrats bad, uggh ughh", they love the system, it elevates them above the cyclical generations of poverty and ghettos, makes them feel like they're something because they're not suffering, too much.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

In both cases I gave the response that happened.

Everyone knows the responses that happened.

I'm not the one who carried out what happened. I don't need excuses. I don't like rioting, I think there are better ways of doing things.

Yes, defund the police was stupid, wasn't going to get anyone anywhere.

Yeah, I'm sure people did blame the whole of the police.

I do think the police, especially at a local level, does need reforming though.

However, with the police, there are plenty of cases of local law enforcement being racist and being overly violent. Far more than there are of people assassinating politicians.

Maybe, maybe not. But we can’t ignore the fact that the hateful rhetoric from the left likely gave the shooter the illusion of consent to murder who he saw as a threat. Given the celebrations of Kirk’s murder, in a sense, he did have consent. Even if only tacitly.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Everyone knows the responses that happened.

Maybe, maybe not. But we can’t ignore the fact that the hateful rhetoric from the left likely gave the shooter the illusion of consent to murder who he saw as a threat. Given the celebrations of Kirk’s murder, in a sense, he did have consent. Even if only tacitly.

Or perhaps the hateful comments by people like Kirk and Trump also led to this.

Question is, do you want to stop this?

Kyzr doesn't, he likes the fight, he likes knowing who the enemy is, he likes hating the enemy, he likes the chaos and the danger. What about you?

 

[westwall]

Or perhaps the hateful comments by people like Kirk and Trump also led to this.

Question is, do you want to stop this?

Kyzr doesn't, he likes the fight, he likes knowing who the enemy is, he likes hating the enemy, he likes the chaos and the danger. What about you?

Kirk never made hateful comments. Why do you continue to lie about him?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Or perhaps the hateful comments by people like Kirk and Trump also led to this.

The difference is that, for Republicans and conservatives, policies, ideas and certain ideologies were the enemies, not people.

For many on the left, Kirk and Trump - individual persons - are the enemy. Thus is why one’s life was attempted twice and the other’s life was snuffed out.

That’s not to say that the right never targets individuals for derision (think Pelosi and Schumer, et al), but usually these targets are viewd as enemies of the country, not a specific group of people.

There is certainly plenty of blame to go around on both sides and I’m not unaware of this.

Question is, do you want to stop this?

Absolutely.

Kyzr doesn't, he likes the fight, he likes knowing who the enemy is, he likes hating the enemy, he likes the chaos and the danger. What about you?

I don’t like any of it. I hate that the country has gotten to the point where half the country viscerally hates the other half

Unfortunately, I don’t know that there’s a solution; it will likely just run out of steam at some point.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The difference is that, for Republicans and conservatives, policies, ideas and certain ideologies were the enemies, not people.

For many on the left, Kirk and Trump - individual persons - are the enemy. Thus is why one’s life was attempted twice and the other’s life was snuffed out.

That’s not to say that the right never targets individuals for derision (think Pelosi and Schumer, et al), but usually these targets are viewd as enemies of the country, not a specific group of people.

There is certainly plenty of blame to go around on both sides and I’m not unaware of this.


Absolutely.

I don’t like any of it. I hate that the country has gotten to the point where half the country viscerally hates the other half

Unfortunately, I don’t know that there’s a solution; it will likely just run out of steam at some point.

That makes no sense.

Trump spoke about how he hates people he opposes. The right went after Biden, after Harris, after Obama. Remember when Obama was born in Kenya (with a birth certificate that had a US date of birth on it, not a British Empire date of birth), and when his wife was a man?

I think you're very selective in what you forget.

There is a solution, Proportional Representation.

 

[struth]

Or perhaps the hateful comments by people like Kirk and Trump also led to this.

Question is, do you want to stop this?

Kyzr doesn't, he likes the fight, he likes knowing who the enemy is, he likes hating the enemy, he likes the chaos and the danger. What about you?

if oh want to stop the stop victim blaming and justifying murder

You are problem

 

[struth]

That makes no sense.

Trump spoke about how he hates people he opposes. The right went after Biden, after Harris, after Obama. Remember when Obama was born in Kenya (with a birth certificate that had a US date of birth on it, not a British Empire date of birth), and when his wife was a man?

I think you're very selective in what you forget.

There is a solution, Proportional Representation.

The right “goes after”. They don’t murder their rivals

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

That makes no sense.

Trump spoke about how he hates people he opposes. The right went after Biden, after Harris, after Obama. Remember when Obama was born in Kenya (with a birth certificate that had a US date of birth on it, not a British Empire date of birth), and when his wife was a man?

I think you're very selective in what you forget.

There is a solution, Proportional Representation.

You misunderstood what I said. The rights’ targets were usually viewed as enemies of the country due to their policies. Kirk was seen as a hate-filled bigot who would be responsible for - directly or indirectly - pogroms against gays and transgenders: people. These people actually believe that a sort of holocaust was coming for certain groups.

Maybe it’s a distinction that doesn’t mean much, I don’t know. But there is a difference as to what specifically angers conservatives and liberals.

 

[toobfreak]

His racist, misogynistic comments are all over Youtube for anyone to see.

Show me one.

 

[toobfreak]

Here is one of many.

Excuse me Boob, but this is what Charlie said:

• He said all these black women: Michelle Obumma, Joy Reid and Sheila Lee were dumb stumps who only got their positions via DEI.
• But he wasn't saying they were all under-qualified oafs because they were BLACK,
• They just happened to be several black women who never would have progressed beyond coffee maker and french fry server without DEI to advance them.

That isn't racism, that is just simple truth. The whole POINT to DEI is to take unqualified people who otherwise would be passed over for better qualified people and elevate them anyway into the workforce thereby artificially equalizing hiring practices to force an artificially higher number of these people into the workforce!

The only place racism comes in is in the DEI program itself as the whole CRITERIA for DEI is BASED on race! DEI does not work to help stupid, unqualified white or chinese people into good jobs, but ostensibly is focused towards only helping BLACK and similar ethnicities, so the racism is the PROGRAM, not the people like Kirk just for pointing it out.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You misunderstood what I said. The rights’ targets were usually viewed as enemies of the country due to their policies. Kirk was seen as a hate-filled bigot who would be responsible for - directly or indirectly - pogroms against gays and transgenders: people. These people actually believe that a sort of holocaust was coming for certain groups.

Maybe it’s a distinction that doesn’t mean much, I don’t know. But there is a difference as to what specifically angers conservatives and liberals.

Of course there's a difference between what angers these people, otherwise they wouldn't be considered different. At the same time, the political system is what makes the divide.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Why is police misconduct always in leftist run cities?

.

Our police are quite well behaved here in Mayberry.

.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Of course there's a difference between what angers these people, otherwise they wouldn't be considered different. At the same time, the political system is what makes the divide.

The difference is what an individual is prepared to do about a perceived threat to the country’s values compared to what he is prepared to do about a threat to a group of people such as blacks, gays, transgenders, etc..

Theoretically, which one would you more likely be willing to kill for?

 

[BULLDOG]

Show me one.

That already happened