Out of curiosity, what do people disagree with Trump's actual implemented policies?

[bendo]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

 

[MarcATL]

Why don't you list some of the implemented policies you see no problem w/and don't understand why other people would OP?

I'm sure someone would oblige you.

 

[bendo]

I'm not really sure I see a problem with policy. And
THAT's why I started the thread. I'm fine with auditing agencies and sending illegals elsewhere .... although people will cry when they see the price of produce.

The problem is that because of gridlock, with both parties happy to have their troughs filled, congress is unable to do anything. So we may become literally an empire with a king who remains in power so long as we approve.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why don't you list some of the implemented policies you see no problem w/and don't understand why other people would OP?

I'm sure someone would oblige you.

Let’s start with deporting illegals who have committed crimes or who have final orders of removal.

Does anyone disagree with that being done, or is the problem just the way Trump is doing it?

 

[MarcATL]

Let’s start with deporting illegals who have committed crimes or who have final orders of removal.

Does anyone disagree with that being done, or is the problem just the way Trump is doing it?

I'm not sure anyone disagrees w/that.

Can you list anyone who disagrees w/sending the criminals away?

Let me confirm this one aspect though, are you considering those who are currently undocumented as criminals just for that?

 

[Marener]

Let’s start with deporting illegals who have committed crimes or who have final orders of removal.

Don’t you guys say that every illegal has committed a crime?

 

[bendo]

I'm ok with deporting EVERY illegal. The fact is our economy needs workers who are not citizens because we don't have enough citizens. Our two parties have been unable to reach a sane way to govern how many we take and what they can do. Our populace has grown used to govt with no purse strings or accountablity. People only care when their food or their house is too expensive.

 

[sparky]

Most would agree on issue(s) , until they hear it's Trump doing it

then they lose their sh*t........

~S~

 

[toobfreak]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

His hyperbole is his style, a carryover from being a CEO in business, his racist bs, I can't even guess what that means without you providing an example. I think you mean just his non-PC style of being frank.

And Klepto tiny fingers? That sounds like BS and borders on violating the OP clean start creation rules.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm not sure anyone disagrees w/that.

Can you list anyone who disagrees w/sending the criminals away?

That admits it? No.

They will rarely if ever say “illegal alien who commit crime should not be deported.“ they fall back on the way it’s done.

Or they will say something vague, like yes a person who commits crimes should be dealt with, should have a consequence, should be locked up, but they will not say should be should be deported.

I believe that they do oppose sending illegal aliens away, who commit crimes. They believe that as soon as an illegal alien gets into this country, they should be allowed to stay no matter what. Even if they are locked up for life and prison, they should stay in an American prison.

But getting them to openly say that is like pulling teeth. That is, I believe the reason the original poster’s question. Trying to pin them down on their position.

I doubt seriously that it will work. Many political goals rely on never openly stating them, so that they can be implemented.

Let me confirm this one aspect though, are you considering those who are currently undocumented as criminals just for that?

For purposes of this specific question, no. In actual reality yes of course they are criminals. If a person is discovered to be in the country illegally while ice is arresting and deporting an illegal alien who has committed crimes, that is bad luck for them. But it is not an injustice.

But my question is what is the objection to sending illegal aliens who commit crimes away?

Also, what is the objection to deporting someone who has a final order of removal question?

 

[IM2]

The fact that he is doing illegal stuff just doesn't seem to enter the minds of some people. Illegal immigrants aren't the only issue and in fact, since there are jobs they do that many Americans don't, the policy to ship them away is stupid. Another aspect of this is that the issue is only about departing non-white immigrants while Trump has stated that he would gladly resettle white Afrikaners. Also, there are millions of illegal white immigrants here from various European countries and none of them wi be rounded up. Millions of undocumented Irish people are here, but there will be no demand to search Irish communities for illegals. The policy is blatantly racist, and that's why I and many others disagree.

So I will say this again, white Americans need to shut the hell up about illegal immigration because all of you descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants today.

 

[Nostra]

The fact that he is doing illegal stuff just doesn't seem to enter the minds of some people. Illegal immigrants aren't the only issue and in fact, since there are jobs they do that many Americans don't, the policy to ship them away is stupid. Another aspect of this is that the issue is only about departing non-white immigrants while Trump has stated that he would gladly resettle white Afrikaners. Also, there are millions of illegal white immigrants here from various European countries and none of them wi be rounded up. Millions of undocumented Irish people are here, but there will be no demand to search Irish communities for illegals. The policy is blatantly racist, and that's why I and many others disagree.

So I will say this again, white Americans need to shut the hell up about illegal immigration because all of you descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants today.

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What illegal stuff?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Does anyone object to reducing the size of government, including eliminating jobs that are not providing benefit to the American people?

Does anyone object to federal workers being required to go to work?

 

[Seymour Flops]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

Nice try, bendo !

Inviting Dems to a logical debate instead of the hysteria and name-calling won’t draw many takers. Kudos to MarcATL for stepping up, but I don’t expect any others.

 

[MarcATL]

That admits it? No.

They will rarely if ever say “illegal alien who commit crime should not be deported.“ they fall back on the way it’s done.

Or they will say something vague, like yes a person who commits crimes should be dealt with, should have a consequence, should be locked up, but they will not say should be should be deported.

I believe that they do oppose sending illegal aliens away, who commit crimes. They believe that as soon as an illegal alien gets into this country, they should be allowed to stay no matter what. Even if they are locked up for life and prison, they should stay in an American prison.

But getting them to openly say that is like pulling teeth. That is, I believe the reason the original poster’s question. Trying to pin them down on their position.

I doubt seriously that it will work. Many political goals rely on never openly stating them, so that they can be implemented.

For purposes of this specific question, no. In actual reality yes of course they are criminals. If a person is discovered to be in the country illegally while ice is arresting and deporting an illegal alien who has committed crimes, that is bad luck for them. But it is not an injustice.

But my question is what is the objection to sending illegal aliens who commit crimes away?

Also, what is the objection to deporting someone who has a final order of removal question?

You're harsh on those you disagree with and I'm sure you're very forgiving to those you agree with.

You should take them at their word that they're okay with deporting the actual criminals.


And thanks for that clarity.

 

[Dante]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

Policies?

Executive orders?

Weird rantings ravings to media and online?

 

[Seymour Flops]

You're harsh on those you disagree with and I'm sure you're very forgiving to those you agree with.

You should take them at their word that they're okay with deporting the actual criminals.

If they would say that, I would absolutely take them at their word.

If they make vague statement like "they should be dealt with," I give their word the same value that they do.

And thanks for that clarity.

Thanks for asking a reasonable question!

 

[MarcATL]

If they would say that, I would absolutely take them at their word.

If they make vague statement like "they should be dealt with," I give their word the same value that they do.


Thanks for asking a reasonable question!

I'm certain that you accept vague statements from people you agree with as gospel.

Everyone uses vague statements

Just be more consistent and things would be better.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm certain that you accept vague statements from people you agree with as gospel.

Everyone uses vague statements

Just be more consistent and things would be better.

Sure, everybody makes vagues statements.

I accept them from people with whom I agree and disagree.

I don't accept them when they appear to be part of an effort to deceive or dodge a question.

Answering "Should illegals who commit crimes be deported?" with "Anyone who commits a crime should be dealt with," is exactly that.

I saw a talking head on Foxnews fall for that and I didn't accept that poor interviewing from him. He said "Oh, okay," as if he guy had agreed to deportation of criminal illegals which he had avoided.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The fact that he is doing illegal stuff just doesn't seem to enter the minds of some people. Illegal immigrants aren't the only issue and in fact, since there are jobs they do that many Americans don't, the policy to ship them away is stupid. Another aspect of this is that the issue is only about departing non-white immigrants while Trump has stated that he would gladly resettle white Afrikaners. Also, there are millions of illegal white immigrants here from various European countries and none of them wi be rounded up. Millions of undocumented Irish people are here, but there will be no demand to search Irish communities for illegals. The policy is blatantly racist, and that's why I and many others disagree.

So I will say this again, white Americans need to shut the hell up about illegal immigration because all of you descend from people who would be considered illegal immigrants today.

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First of all, if Tren de Agua or MS13 moved into a house next door to the one you bought, you’d be singing a different tune. Second, the focus on removing illegals are those that commit additional crimes. Finally, you don’t give a flying fuck about the illegal immigration issue as much as it is a vehicle for you to stick it to Whitey.