Out of curiosity, what do people disagree with Trump's actual implemented policies?

[Dekster]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

Well when it comes to his policy of firing people with no clue what they do, yes I disagree with it.

 

[MarcATL]

Sure, everybody makes vagues statements.

I accept them from people with whom I agree and disagree.

I don't accept them when they appear to be part of an effort to deceive or dodge a question.

Answering "Should illegals who commit crimes be deported?" with "Anyone who commits a crime should be dealt with," is exactly that.

I saw a talking head on Foxnews fall for that and I didn't accept that poor interviewing from him. He said "Oh, okay," as if he guy had agreed to deportation of criminal illegals which he had avoided.

This goes both ways, for instance the following Republican weasels Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio would get a question from an interviewer and pivot to something else and twist in some bashing of Democrats, not addressing the original question at all and the interviewer would say "ok" and move on.

I'm sure you've seen it, but it didn't register w/you, because you agree w/them.

Let's just be more consistent w/what we say we care about.

This is why you've seen me refer to PRINCIPLES more than anything else.

PRINCIPLES should remain the same no matter what or who it is.

 

[Leo123]

Don’t you guys say that every illegal has committed a crime?

We will START with criminal illegal aliens with a record of criminality. Because Biden did not protect our borders, there are just too many border jumpers in our country. We will get to all of them eventually if they don't show up for hearings and start the process of becoming legal. After all they all broke our laws.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This goes both ways, for instance the following Republican weasels Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio would get a question from an interviewer and pivot to something else and twist in some bashing of Democrats, not addressing the original question at all and the interviewer would say "ok" and move on.

I'm sure you've seen it, but it didn't register w/you, because you agree w/them.

No, I've seen the same thing, and it registers. In fact if you had asked "have you noticed that Republicans do the same?" Ted Cruz wouuld have come to my mind also. Polliticians, whaddaya gonna do?

This is a forum where ordinary folk debate each other and the current topic is whether Trump's detractors really oppose the things that Trump is doing, such as exposing fraud, waste, abuse, or deporting illegals, or whether it's just a knee jerk "Orange Man Bad!" reaction.

Let's just be more consistent w/what we say we care about.

Let's just be more consistent about what the thread is about.

A good place to start would be you, at long last, telling us whether you disagree with deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes?

This is why you've seen me refer to PRINCIPLES more than anything else.

PRINCIPLES should remain the same no matter what or who it is.

Fair enough. After tell us whether you disagree with deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes, please also tell us what principle you applied to get your answer.

 

[MarcATL]

No, I've seen the same thing, and it registers. In fact if you had asked "have you noticed that Republicans do the same?" Ted Cruz wouuld have come to my mind also. Polliticians, whaddaya gonna do?

This is a forum where ordinary folk debate each other and the current topic is whether Trump's detractors really oppose the things that Trump is doing, such as exposing fraud, waste, abuse, or deporting illegals, or whether it's just a knee jerk "Orange Man Bad!" reaction.


Let's just be more consistent about what the thread is about.

A good place to start would be you, at long last, telling us whether you disagree with deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes?

Fair enough. After tell us whether you disagree with deporting illegal aliens who commit crimes, please also tell us what principle you applied to get your answer.

I already stated that I agree w/deporting criminals that are currently undocumented.

Principle being that if you do the crime, you gotta face the consequences.

That said, I currently have little to no sympathy or empathy for many of these people, including the ones who haven't committed any crimes b/c many of them were pro Trump. I feel they need to feel the consequences of that.

I actually want to see Trump successfully deport the lot of them.

Let's see what happens then.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Why don't you list some of the implemented policies you see no problem w/and don't understand why other people would OP?

I'm sure someone would oblige you.

I read you're a puss

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why don't you list some of the implemented policies you see no problem w/and don't understand why other people would OP?

I'm sure someone would oblige you.

Egads.

Do you not ever use Google?

 

[MarcATL]

I read you're a puss

You would.

 

[MarcATL]

Egads.

Do you not ever use Google?

I prefer to be on the same page from the same source.

Are you against that principle?

 

[Man With A Plan]

I'm not sure anyone disagrees w/that.

Can you list anyone who disagrees w/sending the criminals away?

Let me confirm this one aspect though, are you considering those who are currently undocumented as criminals just for that?

If you're "undocumented" that means you're in the country illegally and are by definition a "criminal"!

 

[Man With A Plan]

This goes both ways, for instance the following Republican weasels Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio would get a question from an interviewer and pivot to something else and twist in some bashing of Democrats, not addressing the original question at all and the interviewer would say "ok" and move on.

I'm sure you've seen it, but it didn't register w/you, because you agree w/them.

Let's just be more consistent w/what we say we care about.

This is why you've seen me refer to PRINCIPLES more than anything else.

PRINCIPLES should remain the same no matter what or who it is.

Give me an example of Ted Cruz doing that, Marc!

 

[TemplarKormac]

I prefer to be on the same page from the same source.

Are you against that principle?

Huh? Is that Marc-ese for "I'm to lazy to do my own research?"

 

[BrokeLoser]

I'm not sure anyone disagrees w/that.

Can you list anyone who disagrees w/sending the criminals away?

Let me confirm this one aspect though, are you considering those who are currently undocumented as criminals just for that?

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

Let’s start with deporting illegals who have committed crimes or who have final orders of removal.

We will START with criminal illegal aliens with a record of criminality. Because Biden did not protect our borders, there are just too many border jumpers in our country. We will get to all of them eventually if they don't show up for hearings and start the process of becoming legal. After all they all broke our laws.

I urge you to use caution…we are falling into a leftist trap. We are starting to only vilify illegals who have committed additional crimes…this is all by design, it’s suppose to soften up us SUCKERS, to get us to adopt a position that only “CRIMINAL” aliens need to be sent home…I have a real bad feeling that Trumps admin will hit us with an amnesty offering at some point, the more we show we are willing to be suckered the more likely some amnesty bullshit will be shoved down our throats…FUCK THAT….ALL aliens must be sent home…ALL of them, even 79 year old crippled Abuela. Toughen up people….PLEASE!

 

[Seymour Flops]

I urge you to use caution…we are falling into a leftist trap. We are starting to only vilify illegals who have committed additional crimes…this is all by design, it’s suppose to soften up us SUCKERS, to get us to adopt a position that only “CRIMINAL” aliens need to be sent home…I have a real bad feeling that Trumps admin will hit us with an amnesty offering at some point, the more we show we are willing to be suckered the more likely some amnesty bullshit will be shoved down our throats…FUCK THAT….ALL aliens must be sent home…ALL of them, even 79 year old crippled Abuela. Toughen up people….PLEASE!

Yes, all illegal aliens are criminals. Trump, Noem, and Homan have made it very clear over and over that the priority is aliens who commit further crimes, particularly violent crimes. Then the more peaceful illegals will be sent home. They will also be sent home if they are in a sanctuary city where ICE has to go into their communities instead of local law enforcement giving them access to jails. Because in the community is where the illegals who came over to steal a job instead of deal drugs.

That Democrats pretend not to get that is no "trap" for me. If I let that be a trap, then I'm trapped every time a Democrat either plays dumb or is actually dumb. So I'd be perpetually trapped.

 

[Luckyone]

not his hyperbole or racist bs, nor his klepto tiny fingers. But what he's ACTUALLY done, so far?

I apologize to the mods for not posting a link, but the thread's just out of my personal wondering. I'm working at home, so I maybe have a bit more time to waste today, and I'm curious. If I screwed up with the thread OP, please delete the thread if I've broken rules. Thanks.

It is not so much what he is doing but the way he is doing it (without following the laws). He is doing it in an inhumane way that hurts many people that are innocent. He is not doing it protecting the Constitution but like a dictator. Trump is doing it with the idea that he is "above the law".

In addition, he is doing it incompetently (like bringing plastic straws back that cause damage to the environment).

 

[Seymour Flops]

It is not so much what he is doing but the way he is doing it (without following the laws). He is doing it in an inhumane way that hurts many people that are innocent. He is not doing it protecting the Constitution but like a dictator. Trump is doing it with the idea that he is "above the law".

What is the humane and constitutional way to deport people who committed a crime by illegally crossing the border and then further committed violent crimes including murder?

If you agree that people with final orders of removal should be deported, what has the Trump administration done that is not constitutional or humane?

In addition, he is doing it incompetently (like bringing plastic straws back that cause damage to the environment).

NO ONE normal wanted plastic straws banned. There was no public comment about it before the announcement of the ban. Banning them by executive fiat is not only dictatorship, but what I would call nanana boo boo dictatorship. In other words, “I banned it because I can.”

 

[BluesLegend]

Doesn't matter because Trump is HITLER

 

[BluesLegend]

It is not so much what he is doing but the way he is doing it (without following the laws).

Riiiiight says the Dems who ignored SCOTUS rulings they didn't like. Ingored U.S. immigration LAWS. Twisted laws into knots to lawfare their political opponents. You people got some balls after all that shit.