Do All Republicans Have to Think Alike?

[AntonToo]

Just something that I was just thinking about. Not all democrats think alike as some are progressive and some are moderate so why do all Republicans have to think the same or suddenly they're not Republicans so why is that?


I would say that I'm a moderate Republican just like there are moderate Democrats although I tend to be far right leaning on some issues but not so far right that I hate all Democrats as like I was saying in another thread on here that it just depends on how progressive you are.


The reason that I bring this up as I've been having a few disagreements with some Republicans on here lately because of my suggestions of how to restore peace in this country. I've been constantly accused of wanting to abolish the first and second amendment which I actually don't have it on record of me saying but that's not what this is this thread is about.


For I thought that Republicans were supposed to agree to disagree with each other peacefully like Charlie Kirk often welcomed but I've often been looked at as a traitor for having different views so why are Republicans getting angry at Democrats that they often can't have civil discussions when Republicans are guilty of that too?


Especially when all of my brainstorm ideas have been about how to stop the crazies from getting ahold of guns and prevent another assassination from happening like it happened on September 10th?


This isn't to call anybody out it's just a question. However I really respect BackAgain for his comment about how Republicans generally to agree to disagree without hatred as he's the one who inspired this thread, but unfortunately he's in the minority around here right now.

A lot of people in politics think in very primitive us vs them terms, but reality is most have their own ideas and are their own type Republican or Democrat or Independent.

None of these groups are a one thing and nothing is more sad to watch than people completely checking in their brain and denying facts and reason just to maintain tribalist purity.

 

[ChristisKing]

Gee, I wonder why people think that about you.

You're not one to talk because I'm betting that's exactly what you want to do.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Just something that I was just thinking about. Not all democrats think alike as some are progressive and some are moderate so why do all Republicans have to think the same or suddenly they're not Republicans so why is that?


I would say that I'm a moderate Republican just like there are moderate Democrats although I tend to be far right leaning on some issues but not so far right that I hate all Democrats as like I was saying in another thread on here that it just depends on how progressive you are.


The reason that I bring this up as I've been having a few disagreements with some Republicans on here lately because of my suggestions of how to restore peace in this country. I've been constantly accused of wanting to abolish the first and second amendment which I actually don't have it on record of me saying but that's not what this is this thread is about.


For I thought that Republicans were supposed to agree to disagree with each other peacefully like Charlie Kirk often welcomed but I've often been looked at as a traitor for having different views so why are Republicans getting angry at Democrats that they often can't have civil discussions when Republicans are guilty of that too?


Especially when all of my brainstorm ideas have been about how to stop the crazies from getting ahold of guns and prevent another assassination from happening like it happened on September 10th?


This isn't to call anybody out it's just a question. However I really respect BackAgain for his comment about how Republicans generally to agree to disagree without hatred as he's the one who inspired this thread, but unfortunately he's in the minority around here right now.

Did you vote for Trump? Then you are not a moderate Republican.

And the reason that there are no moderate Republicans is that the modern radical MAGA Republican Party does not tolerate disagreement.....because Trump doesn't tolerate disagreement.

 

[Dante]

Just something that I was just thinking about. Not all democrats think alike as some are progressive and some are moderate so why do all Republicans have to think the same or suddenly they're not Republicans so why is that?

Because for a very long time the former Republican party has had a litmus test .. now a loyalty test under the new GOP = and now the MAGA/Trump party

 

[playtime]

Did you vote for Trump? Then you are not a moderate Republican.

bingo.

And the reason that there are no moderate Republicans is that the modern radical MAGA Republican Party does not tolerate disagreement.....because Trump doesn't tolerate disagreement.

100% fact.

 

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Because for a very long time the former Republican party has had a litmus test .. now a loyalty test under the new GOP = and now the MAGA/Trump party

(R)s - as flawed as they always were - at least understood that 'merica is a nation of laws. they were ready to do nixon in after watergate.

now, to them - it is a nation of & for one man

 

[Dante]

(R)s - as flawed as they always were - at least understood that 'merica is a nation of laws. they were ready to do nixon in after watergate.

now, to them - it is a nation of & for one man

They were not "ready to do Nixon in" after Watergate. Not quite

It was like pulling teeth and fingernails for America to see the GOP get onboard

Timeline of the Watergate scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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They were not "ready to do Nixon in" after Watergate. Not quite

It was like pulling teeth and fingernails for America to see the GOP get onboard

Timeline of the Watergate scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

after the house did their job - goldwater told dick that if he didn't resign, the senate would have found him guilty. & of course he was pardoned as one would have expected.

donny's (R) congress could never repeat that.

 

[Dante]

after the house did their job - goldwater told dick that if he didn't resign, the senate would have found him guilty. & of course he was pardoned as one would have expected.

donny's (R) congress could never repeat that.

Most people believed that The pardon was made in good conscience and for the betterment of the nation.

Did you actually read the link and if so what is keeping you from grasping the details that suggest your initial statement was hooey?


Forget about 1973 -- let's just cover a part of 1974

• • the vote.
• January 28, 1974: Nixon campaign aide Herbert Porter pleads guilty to perjury.
• February 25, 1974: Nixon personal counsel Herbert Kalmbach pleads guilty to two charges of illegal campaign activities.
• March 1, 1974: In an indictment against seven former presidential aides, delivered to Judge Sirica together with a sealed briefcase intended for the House Committee on the Judiciary, Nixon is named as an unindicted co-conspirator.
• March 4, 1974: The "Watergate Seven" (Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson) are formally indicted.
• March 18, 1974: Judge Sirica orders the grand jury's sealed report to be sent to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
• April 5, 1974: Dwight Chapin convicted of lying to a grand jury.
• April 7, 1974: Ed Reinecke, Republican lieutenant governor of California, indicted on three charges of perjury before the Senate committee.
• April 16, 1974: Special Prosecutor Jaworski issues a subpoena for 64 White House tapes.
• April 30, 1974: White House releases edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes, but the House Judiciary Committee insists the actual tapes must be turned over.
• May 9, 1974: Impeachment hearings begin before the House Judiciary Committee.
• June 15, 1974: Woodward and Bernstein's book All the President's Men is published by Simon & Schuster (ISBN 0-671-21781-X).
• July 8, 1974: The United States Supreme Court hears oral argument in United States v. Nixon.
• July 24, 1974: United States v. Nixon decided: in a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court orders Nixon to release his Oval Office tapes to investigators.
• Congress moves to impeach Nixon.
  • July 27 to July 30, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes Articles of Impeachment.
  • Early August 1974: A previously unknown tape from June 23, 1972 (recorded a few days after the break-in) documenting Nixon and Haldeman formulating a plan to block investigations is released. This recording later became known as the "Smoking Gun".
  • The House Republicans who opposed impeachment in committee now say they will vote to impeach Nixon on the House floor.
• August 7, 1974: Key congressional Republicans Sen. Barry Goldwater, House Republican Leader John Jacob Rhodes and Senate Republican Leader Hugh Scott tell Nixon that there are enough votes to impeach him in the House and convict him in the Senate. That evening, Nixon finalizes decision to resign.

 

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Most people believed that The pardon was made in good conscience and for the betterment of the nation.

Did you actually read the link and if so what is keeping you from grasping the details that suggest your initial statement was hooey?


Forget about 1973 -- let's just cover a part of 1974

• • the vote.
• January 28, 1974: Nixon campaign aide Herbert Porter pleads guilty to perjury.
• February 25, 1974: Nixon personal counsel Herbert Kalmbach pleads guilty to two charges of illegal campaign activities.
• March 1, 1974: In an indictment against seven former presidential aides, delivered to Judge Sirica together with a sealed briefcase intended for the House Committee on the Judiciary, Nixon is named as an unindicted co-conspirator.
• March 4, 1974: The "Watergate Seven" (Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson) are formally indicted.
• March 18, 1974: Judge Sirica orders the grand jury's sealed report to be sent to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
• April 5, 1974: Dwight Chapin convicted of lying to a grand jury.
• April 7, 1974: Ed Reinecke, Republican lieutenant governor of California, indicted on three charges of perjury before the Senate committee.
• April 16, 1974: Special Prosecutor Jaworski issues a subpoena for 64 White House tapes.
• April 30, 1974: White House releases edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes, but the House Judiciary Committee insists the actual tapes must be turned over.
• May 9, 1974: Impeachment hearings begin before the House Judiciary Committee.
• June 15, 1974: Woodward and Bernstein's book All the President's Men is published by Simon & Schuster (ISBN 0-671-21781-X).
• July 8, 1974: The United States Supreme Court hears oral argument in United States v. Nixon.
• July 24, 1974: United States v. Nixon decided: in a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court orders Nixon to release his Oval Office tapes to investigators.
• Congress moves to impeach Nixon.
  • July 27 to July 30, 1974: House Judiciary Committee passes Articles of Impeachment.
  • Early August 1974: A previously unknown tape from June 23, 1972 (recorded a few days after the break-in) documenting Nixon and Haldeman formulating a plan to block investigations is released. This recording later became known as the "Smoking Gun".
  • The House Republicans who opposed impeachment in committee now say they will vote to impeach Nixon on the House floor.
• August 7, 1974: Key congressional Republicans Sen. Barry Goldwater, House Republican Leader John Jacob Rhodes and Senate Republican Leader Hugh Scott tell Nixon that there are enough votes to impeach him in the House and convict him in the Senate. That evening, Nixon finalizes decision to resign.

m'k. seems the end took soooooooooooooooooo long.

there... happy now? for christ's sake - by (R) standards, it wasn't gonna happen overnight. but it happened. (R)s & (D)s would go & have a drink or 2 or a 3 martini lunch together as a normal part of their workings but now????

lol.... which is the crux of my point.

dante.

 

[Dante]

m'k. seems the end took soooooooooooooooooo long.

there... happy now? for christ's sake - by (R) standards, it wasn't gonna happen overnight. but it happened. (R)s & (D)s would go & have a drink or 2 or a 3 martini lunch together as a normal part of their workings but now????

lol.... which is the crux of my point.

dante.

for christ's sake stop trying to make GOP of old look like good guys by comparison. Different levels of bad guys is the thing

 

[AntonToo]

You're not one to talk because I'm betting that's exactly what you want to do.

...which is what?

 

[ChristisKing]

...which is what?

Abolish the first and second amendment.

 

[AntonToo]

Abolish the first and second amendment.

Crazy nonsense.