Our Time

[Penelope]

People are turning back into apes. Just go to a Trumplethinskin rally.

Perfect example here of a monkey randomly tapping on a keyboard and producing words.

Design by God or cosmic accident...everything from the moment of creation to now led to Trump being President.

Live with it.

So the Russians are God??

 

[petro]

People are turning back into apes. Just go to a Trumplethinskin rally.

Perfect example here of a monkey randomly tapping on a keyboard and producing words.

Design by God or cosmic accident...everything from the moment of creation to now led to Trump being President.

Live with it.

So the Russians are God??

Another ape chimes in.

 

[dannyboys]

Which person actually wrote the book of Genesis?
I'm guessing it was a monk living in a monastery sometime around the fourteen hundreds. Same goes for all the other book of the Bible.

 

[Taz]

People are turning back into apes. Just go to a Trumplethinskin rally.

Perfect example here of a monkey randomly tapping on a keyboard and producing words.

Design by God or cosmic accident...everything from the moment of creation to now led to Trump being President.

Live with it.

I'm enjoying the laughs, not to worry.

 

[dannyboys]

I bet God knew when he made the garden of eden that someday Donald Trump would become the President.
God has had lots of chances to make sure Trump wouldn't become President and God did nothing to prevent it from happening so obviously Trump becoming the President is "God's Will" ........right?
I don't think anyone belioeves that God ever changes his mind.........right?
So all the LIBs are going to have to put up with God's creation AKA Donald Trump for about another six years.
God really does move in mysterious ways........right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which person actually wrote the book of Genesis?
I'm guessing it was a monk living in a monastery sometime around the fourteen hundreds. Same goes for all the other book of the Bible.

Have you any education at all?????

Or, merely government schooling, and never having read a book not assigned therein????


Really.


"The accuracy of today’s Old Testament was confirmed in 1947 when archaeologists found “The Dead Sea Scrolls” along today's West Bank in Israel. "The Dead Sea Scrolls" contained Old Testament scripture dating 1,000 years older than any manuscripts we had. When comparing the manuscripts at hand with these, from 1,000 years earlier, we find agreement 99.5% of the time. And the .5% differences are minor spelling variances and sentence structure that doesn't change the meaning of the sentence."
Why You Can Believe the Bible

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. As I said, the Enlightenment replaced faith with materialism. Perhaps you know the term materialism by this name: Marxism.


Time and again graduates of government/liberal education institutions have reacted aggressively to any criticism of Darwin's theory of evolution. As has been pointed out, this is because said institutions favor Marxist anti-capitalist, anti-religion worldviews, and Darwin's thesis serves as bedrock support for this view.


One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wrote to Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished, and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.





And Marxism had a particularly dark view of religion:


"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physicalsins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY


See why this thread is called “Our Time”?

 

[alang1216]

Why the heck is Darwin's theory important enough for the science establishment to lie about it?

Why is the theory of evolution so threatening that creationists lie about? You can argue which religion is the true one or which scripture came from your God but you can not argue with or deny the facts you can see with your own eyes. Who are you to tell God how he creates? The earth is his bible.

You couldn't produce any lie.....which makes you the liar, huh?

You talk about Darwin's theory of evolution and say: "If fact, the fossil record shows the very opposite". The truth is that every one of the trillions of fossils found support Darwin.

 

[alang1216]

Even if we accept that Genesis is scientifically valid, what is the explanation for everything the Bible got wrong or omitted? God gets the credit and man gets the blame? I thought it was success that had a thousand fathers but failure was an orphan, not the other way around.

Perhaps you should begin with the Ten Commandments.

From the Exodus? Really? A miraculous event, unsupported by any evidence whatsoever and contradicted by all the available evidence.

Why begin with the 10 commandments? Why not go back to the Code of Hammurabi?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why the heck is Darwin's theory important enough for the science establishment to lie about it?

Why is the theory of evolution so threatening that creationists lie about? You can argue which religion is the true one or which scripture came from your God but you can not argue with or deny the facts you can see with your own eyes. Who are you to tell God how he creates? The earth is his bible.

You couldn't produce any lie.....which makes you the liar, huh?

You talk about Darwin's theory of evolution and say: "If fact, the fossil record shows the very opposite". The truth is that every one of the trillions of fossils found support Darwin.

Link or lie.


Proving you a liar who knows less than nothing has become a bore....but, if you insist.


. "But the curious thing is that there is a consistency about the fossil gaps: the fossils go missing in all the important places. When you look for links between major groups of animals, they simply aren't there; at least, not in enough numbers to put their status beyond doubt. Either they don't exist at all, or they are so rare that endless argument goes on about whether a particular fossil is, or isn't, or might be, transitional between this group or that." [emphasis in original] Francis Hitching, The Neck of the Giraffe: Where Darwin Went Wrong(New Haven Ct,:Ticknor and Fields, 1992) p. 19. (See my articleThe Coelacanth, Living Fossils, and Evolution).

There is no fossil record establishing historical continuity of structure for most characters that might be used to assess relationships among phyla." Katherine G. Field et al., "Molecular Phylogeny of the animal Kingdom," Science, Vol. 239, 12 February 1988, p. 748.


". . . the gradual morphological transitions between presumed ancestors and descendants, anticipated by most biologists, are missing." David E. Schindel (Curator of Invertebrate Fossils, Peabody Museum of Natural History), "The Gaps in the Fossil Record," Nature, Vol. 297, 27 May 1982, p. 282.


We have pre-Cambrian fossils....and Cambrian fossils. In the latter there are fully formed brand new species with new body types and organs with no evidence of attempts in nature to lead up to these new species.

a. Steven J. Gould reported: "In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and fully formed." (Gould, Stephen J. The Panda's Thumb, 1980, p. 181-182)




So, once again you have proven that I am never wrong.


Now get lost, dolt.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Even if we accept that Genesis is scientifically valid, what is the explanation for everything the Bible got wrong or omitted? God gets the credit and man gets the blame? I thought it was success that had a thousand fathers but failure was an orphan, not the other way around.

Perhaps you should begin with the Ten Commandments.

From the Exodus? Really? A miraculous event, unsupported by any evidence whatsoever and contradicted by all the available evidence.

Why begin with the 10 commandments? Why not go back to the Code of Hammurabi?

What is your problem with the Ten Commandments as a basis for civilization?


Speak up, dunce.

 

[alang1216]

Link or lie.

Link

 

[alang1216]

Even if we accept that Genesis is scientifically valid, what is the explanation for everything the Bible got wrong or omitted? God gets the credit and man gets the blame? I thought it was success that had a thousand fathers but failure was an orphan, not the other way around.

Perhaps you should begin with the Ten Commandments.

From the Exodus? Really? A miraculous event, unsupported by any evidence whatsoever and contradicted by all the available evidence.

Why begin with the 10 commandments? Why not go back to the Code of Hammurabi?

What is your problem with the Ten Commandments as a basis for civilization?


Speak up, dunce.

It's not even as good as the US Constitution:

1st Amendment:

• Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,

10 Commandments:

• You shall have no other Gods but me.
• You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
• You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
• You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Link or lie.

Link

Your link, like you, lies.

Watch me prove it.

Your link states this:

"Actually, nearly all fossils can be regarded as intermediates in some sense; they are life forms that come between the forms that preceded them and those that followed.
[False]
The fossil record thus provides consistent evidence of systematic change through time—"
[False]

On the contrary.....rather than the gradual alteration from simple to complex....


" A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."

Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (Nature)



"...all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."



More?

. Even from Time magazine:

"Over the decades, evolutionary theorists beginning with Charles Darwin have tried to argue that the appearance of multicelled animals during the Cambrian merely seemed sudden, and in fact had been preceded by a lengthy period of evolution for which the geological record was missing. But this explanation, while it patched over a hole in an otherwise masterly theory, now seems increasingly unsatisfactory. Since 1987, discoveries of major fossil beds in Greenland, in China, in Siberia, and now in Namibia have shown that the period of biological innovation occurred at virtually the same instant in geologic time all around the world." Extrait de:



More????


How about the sudden.....sudden....appearance of vertebrates in the Cambrian??

In 1999, paleontologists in Southern China also found fossil remains of fish in the Cambrian period. Fish are vertebrates, members of the phylum chordata. Shu, et. al., "Lower Cambrian Vertebrates in Southern China" (Haikouichthy) Error - Cookies Turned Off



Well....you've served the purpose you were born to serve: proving that I am never wrong.


Back to the primordial ooze with you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And on that basis, of course, evolution is not a fact.

". There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.

More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."

Berlinski


Doesn't bode well for Darwin's theory.




And this:

"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.

 

[alang1216]

Link or lie.

Link

Your link, like you, lies.

Watch me prove it.

Your link states this:

"Actually, nearly all fossils can be regarded as intermediates in some sense; they are life forms that come between the forms that preceded them and those that followed.
[False]
The fossil record thus provides consistent evidence of systematic change through time—"
[False]

On the contrary.....rather than the gradual alteration from simple to complex....


" A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."

Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (Nature)



"...all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."



More?

. Even from Time magazine:

"Over the decades, evolutionary theorists beginning with Charles Darwin have tried to argue that the appearance of multicelled animals during the Cambrian merely seemed sudden, and in fact had been preceded by a lengthy period of evolution for which the geological record was missing. But this explanation, while it patched over a hole in an otherwise masterly theory, now seems increasingly unsatisfactory. Since 1987, discoveries of major fossil beds in Greenland, in China, in Siberia, and now in Namibia have shown that the period of biological innovation occurred at virtually the same instant in geologic time all around the world." Extrait de:



More????


How about the sudden.....sudden....appearance of vertebrates in the Cambrian??

In 1999, paleontologists in Southern China also found fossil remains of fish in the Cambrian period. Fish are vertebrates, members of the phylum chordata. Shu, et. al., "Lower Cambrian Vertebrates in Southern China" (Haikouichthy) Error - Cookies Turned Off



Well....you've served the purpose you were born to serve: proving that I am never wrong.


Back to the primordial ooze with you.

Punctuated equilibrium (also called punctuated equilibria) is a theory in evolutionary biology which proposes that once a species appears in the fossil record the population will become stable, showing little evolutionary change for most of its geological history.

 

[alang1216]

And on that basis, of course, evolution is not a fact.

". There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.

More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."

Berlinski


Doesn't bode well for Darwin's theory.




And this:

"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.

I guess you don't believe in gravity either since you've never seen it and no lab has ever produce any.

 

[alang1216]

And on that basis, of course, evolution is not a fact.

". There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.

More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."

Berlinski


Doesn't bode well for Darwin's theory.




And this:

"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.

An ignorant or dishonest post. The theory of evolution, the descent from a common ancestor, it a fact based on evidence from many sciences. It is the mechanism for it, that is still being debated.

 

[badger2]

'There is no Big Other.'
(Slavoj Zizek)

Life began, amino acids began, at the crusty mouth of an electrified volcano, and "god" still dances on it. duh See Miller-Urey volcanic spark experiment, which was reproduced at Livermore Labs. duh

 

[PoliticalChic]

Link or lie.

Link

Your link, like you, lies.

Watch me prove it.

Your link states this:

"Actually, nearly all fossils can be regarded as intermediates in some sense; they are life forms that come between the forms that preceded them and those that followed.
[False]
The fossil record thus provides consistent evidence of systematic change through time—"
[False]

On the contrary.....rather than the gradual alteration from simple to complex....


" A few of the gaps (which are systematic in the fossil record) they claim to fill, but there’s another deposit in the region that throws the whole evolutionary story into disrepute: the Chengyiang bed in southern China. Here, the Cambrian Explosion has been documented in fine detail; all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."

Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists (Nature)



"...all the major animal phyla appear in the early Cambrian without precursors."



More?

. Even from Time magazine:

"Over the decades, evolutionary theorists beginning with Charles Darwin have tried to argue that the appearance of multicelled animals during the Cambrian merely seemed sudden, and in fact had been preceded by a lengthy period of evolution for which the geological record was missing. But this explanation, while it patched over a hole in an otherwise masterly theory, now seems increasingly unsatisfactory. Since 1987, discoveries of major fossil beds in Greenland, in China, in Siberia, and now in Namibia have shown that the period of biological innovation occurred at virtually the same instant in geologic time all around the world." Extrait de:



More????


How about the sudden.....sudden....appearance of vertebrates in the Cambrian??

In 1999, paleontologists in Southern China also found fossil remains of fish in the Cambrian period. Fish are vertebrates, members of the phylum chordata. Shu, et. al., "Lower Cambrian Vertebrates in Southern China" (Haikouichthy) Error - Cookies Turned Off



Well....you've served the purpose you were born to serve: proving that I am never wrong.


Back to the primordial ooze with you.

Punctuated equilibrium (also called punctuated equilibria) is a theory in evolutionary biology which proposes that once a species appears in the fossil record the population will become stable, showing little evolutionary change for most of its geological history.

You said the fossil record proved Darwin's theory.

I proved the very opposite is true.

Why are you back?