Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
data.bls.gov
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
80,000 people died of the flu last winter, dingbat, and 100 million died of the Spanish flu.It definitely is not worse in every way than the common flu. You have to be a colossal moron or a colossal douchebag to say a thing like that.The only thing they know for sure is that the virus is spread from person to person through the air. So they are following the age old solution for an airborne epidemic, separate people and the transmission will stop. It is not an elegant solution but given time it will work.'Experts' are changing their mind weekly. This is a new animal, there is no blueprint. The best plan lies somewhere between fuckit let's do nothing and OMG we need to shut down everything down until we see no new cases.I’m fine if you don’t like my plan. I gave it a few minutes of thought by myself after nailing my wife. Trump is the one who should have a plan crafted by experts but doesn’t have a clue.You never answered the question.Keep kissing his ass until we go broke and millions of old people die. The fact is the guy and the administration has no plan. He’s just winging it.If the governor of the state that is currently the epicenter of the outbreak claims Trump has no legal authority to lock down his state... what exactly do you expect Trump to do. Cuomo literally called it an act of war.Whack a mole by state?! Are you insane? So basically you approve of having no plan. Surprise. There was nothing substantively partisan in my post except for properly calling Trump an idiot. He is. Still I am looking to him as the President to implement a national plan in this time of crisis. Apparently you think we don’t need one.
Why Trump? You have a governor who you hold much more sway over than you do at a national level. You know Trump proposed locking down NY, CT and NJ and the democrat hero Cuomo shot that down immediately as totally illegal.
New York Gov. Cuomo says Trump has no authority to impose quarantine: 'It would be illegal'
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday he does not believe President Donald Trump has the authority to impose a quarantine on New York, New Jersey and parts of Connecticut to stop the spread of the coronavirus.www.cnbc.com
So stick that in your partisan pipe and smoke it.
Trump wanted to do it, the Democrats fought him on it.
You need a civics class. You understand we are not a centralised government right.
We are a federation of states. Hence the FEDERAL government. If the state fights the federal government what is Trump going to do? Call out the Army? Arrest the Governor? Appoint a new state government?
Get your head out of your ass and look around. We aren't a dictatorship. If you want a lockdown...you best be putting pressure on CUOMO...not Trump.
If you don't know where you are going, you’ll end up someplace else. - Yogi Berra
If the governor refuses to lock down Like Governor Cuomo just did...what do you expect Trump to do?
actually the most recent inputs from the "experts" say that the airborne spread is not as likely as from contact with an infected surface. Much like the common cold or the flu.
Are you still trying out that "this is just like the flu" line? It's not.
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Intelligent posters read the post in context before responding to it. Care to try again? the other poster and I were discussing transmission of the virus. Neither of us said it was the same as the flu in any other way. Might be best if you went back to bed.
And yet that has been your meme. Do you now recognize that COVID is far worse than the seasonal flu?
worse in terms of mortality rate, but in terms of numbers of dead americans Flu is much worse, so are diabetes, heart disease, suicide, gang violence, car wrecks, dementia, lung diseases, and your all time favorite abortion. How about posting the abortion stats compared to corona for us? BTW, abortion has a 100% mortality rate and you fully support that.
What makes corona scary is that at the moment there is no effective proven cure or preventative, but those are coming very soon. This thing will end, relax witchey.
It is worse in every way than the common flu, Fishy. Yes, it will end, but not as soon as any of us want it to no matter how much sunshine Trump blows up your ass.
So tell us the ways in which the flu is worse than this. See, because actual medical professionals say it is. Are you an expert in infectious diseases as well as a computer tech?
No, Coronavirus Isn't 'Just Like The Flu'. Here Are The Very Important Differences
Aches and pains, sore throat, fever – although they may feel similar to those suffering from their symptoms, the novel coronavirus is not the same as the seasonal flu, experts stressed Wednesday.www.sciencealert.com
There is one important way it IS like the flu. You can reduce the spread by staying home, washing your hands and wearing a mask in public.
Actual medical profossionals told us a two weeks ago that wearing a mask didn't do any good. Now they are telling us it does.
You don't want the economy to get back up and running.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Would you please "Get it over with" and expose your fat diseased ass to the virus so we can get the economy back up and running? Lenny would appreciate that.
So Republicans who issued stay-at-home orders are also in on this conspiracy?
You don't want the economy to get back up and running.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Would you please "Get it over with" and expose your fat diseased ass to the virus so we can get the economy back up and running? Lenny would appreciate that.
Tell your grandma to quit whining and hurry up and die.
They're just dupes who go along to keep their jobs.
No.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Why would I "sacrifice" myself when I can't even go back to work?You don't want the economy to get back up and running.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Would you please "Get it over with" and expose your fat diseased ass to the virus so we can get the economy back up and running? Lenny would appreciate that.
Tell your grandma to quit whining and hurry up and die.
I'm waiting for unhealthy people like you to sacrifice yourself for it. Instead of just talk.
Of course not, and there is no chance you will be unemployed, is there?No.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Not true. I never expected anything but acquittal. And of course, not even an acquittal can wash away the stench of Impeachment.
There you go... "impeached"
LOL
You still can't get over his acquittal, and you're butthurt. It's OK, four more years should be enough to get used to it.
Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
Maybe she should try ordering all Oregonians to congregate in all public places elbow to elbow. Then the contrarian Oregonians would stay at home.
Of course there is that chance, ya flaming ******* moron.Of course not, and there is no chance you will be unemployed, is there?No.Sure you did. Are you unemployed?Personally, I choose saving lives over unemployment.701,000 jobs lost. That's just shy of a million job difference from the previous month.
It's like having Bush back in office.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
If we don't shut down the country, you'll ***** how people are dying. If we do, you'll ***** about unemployment.
You have to decide what to complain about.
When you have no vaccine or medical treatment to stop a virus which transmits by droplets in the air from coughing, sneezing, and talking, the only action left to stop the transmission is the separation of people. Whether it works or not depends on the people or governments success at enforcing the separation.People have known for centuries that staying away from sick people in an epidemic prevents the spread of disease. Since there is no way of knowing whose sick, social distancing is all we got.Does Social Distancing Matter?
This paper develops and implements a method to monetize the impact of moderate social distancing on deaths from COVID-19. Using the Ferguson et al. (2020) simulation model of COVID-19’s spread and mortality impacts in the United States, we project that 3-4 months of moderate distancing beginning in late March 2020 would save 1.7 million lives by October 1. Of the lives saved, 630,000 are due to avoided overwhelming of hospital intensive care units. Using the projected age-specific reductions in death and age-varying estimates of the United States Government’s value of a statistical life, we find that the mortality benefits of social distancing are about $8 trillion or $60,000 per US household. Roughly 90% of the monetized benefits are projected to accrue to people age 50 or older. Overall, the analysis suggests that social distancing initiatives and policies in response to the COVID-19 epidemic have substantial economic benefits.
Does Social Distancing Matter?
This paper develops and implements a method to monetize the impact of moderate social distancing on deaths from COVID-19. Using the Ferguson et al. (2020) simulpapers.ssrn.com
I could agree with social distancing. I don't agree with forcing people into their homes.
History teaches us that an epidemic has never been overcome by quarantines, but only by hygienic measures. Quarantines do not protect populations in which the disease is already present, they can only save a little time, but it cannot defeat the disease itself.
Stay-at-home has been sold to the public on the basis of protecting us. After all, our leaders care about us. They have only our best interests at heart. Right? And what is more terrifying to anyone than the state of their health? None of us want to put our loved ones lives in danger. And so we become even more compliant than normal.
I think Franklin said something like, “Those who would give up liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Considering the continuous fear coming from our leaders and especially media, I don't know if any of us could feel safe. And government totalitarian response to an invisible enemy should make all of us feel demonstrably less free.
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