Our Commander in Chief spoke to military leadership.

[odanny]

you should probably take the advice I gave to the WAPO morons.

You, of all people, should never give advice to anyone.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

So ******* what? Should I be impressed he made coffee for his superiors? I'm glad he got his ribbon.

Good for him, he is in over his head, and has no command experience, but good for him.

He running a far tighter ship than the last guy. Seems he’s more than up for the job. If was truly failing you wouldn’t be so upset.

 

[Couchpotato]

You, of all people, should never give advice to anyone.

Well you are clearly ignorant on the subject. So…

Also exceedingly ignorant on how the military operates apparently. I get it Trump nominated him so he’s bad. That has zero to do with whether his military experience is relevant or is different than the vast majority of past sec defs. Which it isn’t.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Well you are clearly ignorant on the subject. So…

Also exceedingly ignorant on how the military operates apparently. I get it Trump nominated him so he’s bad. That has zero to do with whether his military experience is relevant or is different than the vast majority of past sec defs. Which it isn’t.

They’re mostly upset he’s been effective in his leadership and he’s shitting on their woke priorities.

 

[candycorn]

Trump has not violated the Constitution in any way, despite your fantasies otherwise.

Strange.... About a year ago you called for Biden's ouster on grounds that were not constitutional:

Hypocrite much?

 

[Harry Dresden]

So ******* what? Should I be impressed he made coffee for his superiors? I'm glad he got his ribbon.

Good for him, he is in over his head, and has no command experience, but good for him.

when did you serve danny?...

 

[candycorn]

Bone spurs and a sauced up reservist talking head lecturing people who have actually been in wars on how to be a tough soldier. Nothing funnier than that.

It was a dark day for our nation. Darker days to come as a result I'm afraid. When leaders without conviction (except for those who were convicted LOL) chastise officers who have actually accomplished something in their lives; they don't take too kind to that.

 

[odanny]

Well you are clearly ignorant on the subject. So…

Also exceedingly ignorant on how the military operates apparently. I get it Trump nominated him so he’s bad. That has zero to do with whether his military experience is relevant or is different than the vast majority of past sec defs. Which it isn’t.

Actually, it is you who doesn't understand, as is usually the case. Let me help you out again. Tell me how many on the list had the same career arc as Hegseth.

United States Secretary of Defense - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To ensure civilian control of the military, U.S. law provides that the secretary of defense cannot have served as an active-duty commissioned officer in the military in the preceding seven years except for generals and admirals, who cannot have served on active duty within the previous ten years. Congress can legislatively waive this restriction.

 

[odanny]

when did you serve danny?...

1986-1992.

 

[Nostra]

You know the majority of our military leadership is well informed and ethical, and they had to listen to this. They have to know, deep inside, even if unable, or unwilling, to talk about it, that the man is nuts.

Are they all privately asking themselves, will I carry out an illegal, unconstitutional command? That these accomplished leaders, with command experience, were lectured by a journalist with no leadership skills would be comical, were it not such a dangerous time in this country.





Trump, in meandering remarks that stretched about an hour and 10 minutes, joked that if those in attendance did not like what he had to say, they could leave the room — but “there goes your rank, there goes your future,” he added, drawing some uncomfortable laughter. Since returning to power, Trump and Hegseth have fired numerous generals and admirals, often without cause — and focusing on a disproportionate number of women.

The president defended his polarizing use of the armed forces to police American cities, decrying what he said was “the enemy within” while insisting he should be allowed to use military force domestically. He extolled his decision to rebrand the Defense Department as the Department of War, lamented his inability to end the conflict in Ukraine, and tacitly acknowledged the highly sensitive movements of U.S. submarines off the coast of Russia.

“I call it the ‘n-word,’” the president said of the submarines, appearing to allude to the vessels’ nuclear power. “There are two n-words, and you can’t use either of them.”

The assembled military brass sat through the presentations mostly silent, in keeping with the military’s nonpartisan tradition. Peter Feaver, a political scientist at Duke University, said that they “managed well a very difficult walk along a high wire” by listening respectfully to both partisan speeches without responding. Trump and Hegseth, he added, also deserve credit for showing that they understand why the military leaders were remaining quiet.

During his remarks, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an officer in the National Guard at times, lectured the men and women — each with decades more military experience — seated silently before him. He vowed to make the military “stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer and more powerful than it has ever been before,” repeating numerous talking points he has used throughout his tenure atop the Pentagon — including that the military brass needs to crack down on standards ranging from physical fitness to grooming and discipline.

Hegseth blamed “foolish and reckless politicians” for allowing the military to stray from its primary focus, to fight and win wars, and pledged to fix what he called “decades of decay” in the force. He also declared that “politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement,” the guidelines that shape how U.S. troops use lethal force in combat, are gone.

Hegseth said he will overhaul the channels troops and civilian employees have available to them to anonymously file whistleblower complaints, report toxic leadership, or point out unequal treatment based on race, gender, sexuality or religion.

“No more frivolous complaints. No more anonymous complaints, no more repeat complaints, no more smearing reputations, no more endless waiting, no more legal limbo, no more sidetracking careers. No more walking on eggshells,” Hegseth pronounced. “Of course, being a racist has been illegal in our formations since 1948. The same goes for sexual harassment. Both are wrong and illegal.”

WaPo

Your source…..

During his remarks, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an officer in the National Guard at times,

At times….


He spent years serving. Had stints in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Received 6 awards, including 2 Bronze Stars.

 

[sartre play]

Just read the whole transcript of Trumps speech to the military.
Please if your left right or some where between.
If you love our country, read the transcript.

 

[odanny]

Your source…..

During his remarks, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an officer in the National Guard at times,

At times….


He spent years serving. Had stints in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Received 6 awards, including 2 Bronze Stars.

Yea, that's great.

And changes nothing, other than he got his ribbon and two Bronze Stars.

 

[Nostra]

Yea, that's great.

And changes nothing, other than he got his ribbon and two Bronze Stars.

It means he stood out in combat, Simp.

Your source is a joke.

 

[Clipper]

Watch the whole tjing and then tell us why he should not be in a nursing home.

A laughing factory is more like it.

 

[Clipper]

It means he stood out in combat, Simp.

Your source is a joke.

That doesn't mean he's qualified or capable of running DOD, Skippy.

But he is good at bullshitting you MAGA Red Hats. He had plenty of practice at Fox & now playing grabass with your mentally ill Dear Leader.

 

[odanny]

It means he stood out in combat, Simp.

Your source is a joke.

Feel free to expound on how he "stood out in combat" because he got two Bronze Stars.

Take your time, we'll wait.

 

[Couchpotato]

Actually, it is you who doesn't understand, as is usually the case. Let me help you out again. Tell me how many on the list had the same career arc as Hegseth.

United States Secretary of Defense - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To ensure civilian control of the military, U.S. law provides that the secretary of defense cannot have served as an active-duty commissioned officer in the military in the preceding seven years except for generals and admirals, who cannot have served on active duty within the previous ten years. Congress can legislatively waive this restriction.

Military career arc? Because that's the discussion here.

In the modern era most of them.

​

Zero military experience.

Wilson
Rumsfeld
Cheney
McElroy
Schelinger
Brown
Aspin
Perry
Gates
Panetta
Carter


So you are right. From a military experience perspective Hegseth has more than most of them,.

Ausin and Mattis are the only 2 career military guys in the last 75 years.

Edit

I forgot one. Johnson also had zero military experience.

So of the 21 Sec Def's 12 never served a day.

 

[odanny]

Military career arc? Because that's the discussion here.

In the modern era most of them.

​

Zero military experience.

Wilson
Rumsfeld
Cheney
McElroy
Schelinger
Brown
Aspin
Perry
Gates
Panetta
Carter


So you are right. From a military experience perspective Hegseth has more than most of them,.

Ausin and Mattis are the only 2 career military guys in the last 75 years.

Edit

I forgot one. Johnson also had zero military experience.

So of the 21 Sec Def's 12 never served a day.

Those who didn't held high level positions in industry or government. Hegseth was a yakker on FOX News.


But let's look at his military experience, and it appears to be very thin. Feel free to include any relevant experience not related to FOX News that is not on Wikipedia.

Iraq:

He began his tour in Baghdad before moving to Samarra, where he served as a civil affairs officer.

Afghanistan:

In 2011, Hegseth was commissioned into the Minnesota Army National Guard as a captain. He volunteered to teach at the Counterinsurgency Training Center in Kabul, Afghanistan, for eight months, during the withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan; he taught one of the final classes at the school. After completing his tour in 2014, he was promoted to major and enlisted in the Individual Ready Reserve

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

But biden did, except he wasnt talking about military generals, he was talking about american citizens.

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the subject is Trump
own it already

 

[sartre play]

Most Just want to argue... Any one read the transcript of the lecture given to the military?