"Open the Fuckin Strait..."

[Zavulon]

Let me recap for the democrats with TDS.
1. Someone in the UN noticed that Iran was enriching uranium for a nuclear bomb.
2. Those "diplomat weenies" came up with the JCPOA, which was flawed since it was only a 10-year agreement, after that Iran had no restrictions.
3. To entice Iran the weenies gave Iran their sanctioned $56,000,000,000 because they promised not to enrich uranium.
4. Iran promptly took that $56b and used it to enrich uranium and develop ICBMs.
5. Iran is a "state sponsor of terrorism", they support Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis
6. Trump said that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and to his credit took positive steps to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and ICBMs by operation "Midnight Hammer" which destroyed Iran's centrifuges, and Operation "Epic Fury" which destroyed most of Iran's military and weapon manufacturing, including removing the top layers of Iran's leadership.

7. Iran closed the Hormuz strait and attacked the surrounding Gulf states and NATO member Turkey, whereby President Trump asked NATO to join the US to open Hormuz and remove the terrorist regime and replace it with a non-terrorist government, which is actually enforcing the intent of the flawed JCPOA. To no one's surprise none of the weenie countries wanted to join with the US to open Hormuz and perform a regime change, they prefer letting Iran run roughshod over their weenie democracies.

Actually, you forgot, that it were the USA, who created situation in which it's much more safe for Iranians to have nukes, than not to have them.

 

[kyzr]

Actually, you forgot, that it were the USA, who created situation in which it's much more safe for Iranians to have nukes, than not to have them.

If Iran didn't have nukes they would be much happier and safer, they need to understand that.

 

[Zavulon]

If Iran didn't have nukes they would be much happier and safer, they need to understand that.

Actually, no. You created the world, the war of lawlessness and unprovoked aggressions, in which the only thing that guarantees safety and independence is nuclear weapons.
That's the problem. If Iran wants to survive and keep his assets, it need nukes. Or need to remove American forces from the Middle East.

 

[kyzr]

Actually, no. You created the world, the war of lawlessness and unprovoked aggression, in which the only thing that guarantees safety and independence is nuclear weapons.
That's the problem. If Iran wants to survive and keep his assets, it need nukes. Or need to remove American forces from the Middle East.

OK, we'll soon see how the negotiations to keep their "right" enrich uranium pans out for Iran.
Now Iran wants to buy shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles from China, which China denies.
Ask the Gulf states if they want US forces removed from their countries.
If Iran gets nukes all the Gulf states would need them too. A total mess.

 

[Zavulon]

OK, we'll soon see how the negotiations to keep their "right" enrich uranium pans out for Iran.

Negotiations didn't even started yet.

Now Iran wants to buy shoulder launched anti-aircraft missiles from China, which China denies.

You'll see.

Ask the Gulf states if they want US forces removed from their countries.

Some of them do want it (like 70% of Bahrain population), some are just indifferent about to whom they should pay for "protection" - to Iran, to USA, to China or to Russia.
There is no any platonic love to America. Just business (or not so well concealed hatred).

If Iran gets nukes all the Gulf states would need them too. A total mess.

If NPT is dead, (and looks like you already have killed it) many countries, and not only in Gulf, will earn nuclear weapons, too. It won't be good, but it might be much lesser evil than a regional war in Middle East or US-controlled Iran.

 

[luiza]

"Open the Strait "

No ,
What you going to do about it ?

Bomb us ?
Then we will just bomb every US asset in the ME to pieces and bring you to Bankruptcy.

You will be out of a job and you and America will be despised , possibly forever .

So , break all the Toys , Trumpfy
Temper , Temper .
See what happens .

 

[kyzr]

Negotiations didn't even start yet.

They should have, they both are in Pakistan, Iran brought 71 and the US sent 3.

You'll see.

China will see. They deny sending shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles.
If they are lying they get hit with 50% tariffs which hits their economy very hard.

Some of them do want it (like 70% of Bahrain population), some are just indifferent about to whom they should pay for "protection" - to Iran, to USA, to China or to Russia. There is not any platonic love for America. Just business (or not so well concealed hatred).

You might be right there, I don't know. MBS looked like he enjoyed meeting with Putin, two guys who apparently like to order people killed. The Saud king likes the US, MBS, I'm not so sure, he's very hard to read, he likes our technology, but...
I don't know the other rulers well...but Iran just helped our popularity.

https://www.ft.com/content/d36bee82-d905-4e10-8bcd-7960ce832406

If NPT is dead, (and looks like you already have killed it) many countries, and not only in Gulf, will earn nuclear weapons, too. It won't be good, but it might be much lesser evil than a regional war in Middle East or US-controlled Iran.

The NPT via the JCPOA was already dead. Iran killed it by lying.

How the Iran War undermines the nuclear nonproliferation regime

The ramifications of the war on Iran are becoming clearer: The war raises doubts that the Non-Proliferation Treaty can hold as a central pillar of international security. If it doesn't, will US-friendly countries seek nuclear weapons, and will China and Russia follow the US-Israeli example and...

thebulletin.org

 

[Zavulon]

They should have, they both are in Pakistan, Iran brought 71 and the US sent

Now they started, but still didn't find any common ground yet. And with Trump's EPIC BARGAINING it will take a time. Of course, after all, there will be EPIC DEPRESSION and EPIC ACCEPTANCE.

3.

China will see. They deny sending shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles.

And US intelligence said that they agreed.

If they are lying they get hit with 50% tariffs which hits their economy very hard.

And those tariffs will hit American economy even harder.

You might be right there, I don't know. MBS looked like he enjoyed meeting with Putin, two guys who apparently like to order people killed. The Saud king likes the US, MBS, I'm not so sure, he's very hard to read, he likes our technology, but...
I don't know the other rulers well...but Iran just helped our popularity.

It's basically not about popularity. Iran just proved that America can't protect them.

https://www.ft.com/content/d36bee82-d905-4e10-8bcd-7960ce832406

The NPT via the JCPOA was already dead. Iran killed it by lying.

Of course no. NPT guarantee free non military usage of nuclear energy.

 

[kyzr]

Now they started, but still didn't find any common ground yet. And with Trump's EPIC BARGAINING it will take a time. Of course, after all, there will be EPIC DEPRESSION and EPIC ACCEPTANCE.

After epic opening of Hormuz and epic turning over of the 460 kg of 60% enriched uranium, or there will be epic destruction of Iran's powerplants.

And US intelligence said that they agreed.

Nyet. US intelligence said China will send them, a very bad idea...

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/11/politics/us-intelligence-iran-china-weapons

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-intelligence-indicates-china-preparing-weapons-shipment-iran-cnn-reports-2026-04-11/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-11/us-intelligence-shows-china-set-to-supply-iran-arms-cnn-reports

And those tariffs will hit American economy even harder.

Not exactly, it just means we buy more "Made in the USA"

It's basically not about popularity. Iran just proved that America can't protect them.

Its not our job to protect them, we protect our bases.
We can sell them the good defensive missiles, but they need to buy good defensive systems and man them.

Of course not. NPT guarantee free non-military usage of nuclear energy.

Iran was paid to not enrich uranium, and they broke that JCPOA agreement.
Iran has a Russian made nuclear reactor that is not a problem, but running thousands of centrifuges deep under mountains, and also developing ICBMs is a serious provocation for a state sponsor of terrorism.

 

[Zavulon]

After epic opening of Hormuz and epic turning over of the 460 kg of 60% enriched uranium, or there will be epic destruction of Iran's powerplants.

Nyet. US intelligence said China will send them, a very bad idea...

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/11/politics/us-intelligence-iran-china-weapons

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-intelligence-indicates-china-preparing-weapons-shipment-iran-cnn-reports-2026-04-11/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-11/us-intelligence-shows-china-set-to-supply-iran-arms-cnn-reports

So, US intelligence said, that China is preparing to deliver weapons. Seems, China is not very afraid of those threats

Not exactly, it just means we buy more "Made in the USA"

And what do you made in the USA? Lawyers and prostitutes? Soya beans?

Its not our job to protect them, we protect our bases.

They paid you for protection and now you say that you can't protect them and they should pay more.

We can sell them the good defensive missiles, but they need to buy good defensive systems and man them.

Or they can just say "f#ck you" and pay Russia and Iran for protection. It might be much cheaper.

Iran was paid to not enrich uranium, and they broke that JCPOA agreement.

It was their money, btw. And no, it's nothing to do with NPT.

Iran has a Russian made nuclear reactor that is not a problem, but running thousands of centrifuges deep under mountains, and also developing ICBMs is a serious provocation for a state sponsor of terrorism.

Bla-bla-bla. The USA and France also have centrifuges and ICBMs and they are sponsoring terrorism, too. So what?

 

[kyzr]

So, US intelligence said, that China is preparing to deliver weapons. Seems, China is not very afraid of those threats

We will see how it plays out.

And what do you made in the USA? Lawyers and prostitutes? Soy beans?

Yes, and a lot more...

They paid you for protection and now you say that you can't protect them and they should pay more.

We can protect them, but they need to buy the right equipment and learn how to use it. I'm still waiting to see how three US F15s got shot down in Kuwait.

Or they can just say "f#ck you" and pay Russia and Iran for protection. It might be much cheaper.

No one trusts Russia or Iran.

It was their money, btw. And no, it's nothing to do with NPT.

True, but they didn't have access to their $56,000,000,000, so they lied and swindled the UN, EU and US, got their money and continued to enrich.

Bla-bla-bla. The USA and France also have centrifuges and ICBMs and they are sponsoring terrorism, too. So what?

Please show me where the US and France are sponsoring terrorism. We are the cops not the terrorists.

 

[Concerned American]

No one trusts Russia or Iran.

Iran can't afford to protect itself.

 

[Zavulon]

We can protect them, but they need to buy the right equipment and learn how to use it. I'm still waiting to see how three US F15s got shot down in Kuwait.

Of course it wasn't an "accident", if you think about it.

No one trusts Russia or Iran.

Who cares? If Russia and Iran provides better protection for same money - they will choose us, not you.

True, but they didn't have access to their $56,000,000,000, so they lied and swindled the UN, EU and US, got their money and continued to enrich.

It's OK to lie to a liar to get back what is rightfully yours.

Please show me where the US and France are sponsoring terrorism. We are the cops not the terrorists.

For example, you are sponsoring Ukrainian terrorism. Say nothing about half of the world's terrorism.

 

[kyzr]

Who cares? If Russia and Iran provides better protection for same money - they will choose us, not you.

That's funny.

It's OK to lie to a liar to get back what is rightfully yours.

Stupid infidels never learn, except Trump, he is "Shaytan", the very worst enemy...

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam

Are Muslims permitted to lie? What is taqiyya?

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Lies, Concealment, and Islam: Understanding Taqiyya Between History and Modern Misuses

By Dr. Othman El Kachtoul, Diplomat and Islamologist

abramundi.substack.com

For example, you are sponsoring Ukrainian terrorism. Say nothing about half of the world's terrorism.

Yeah, okay, after Russia invades Ukraine, an independent country, you whine about the free world helping Ukraine battle Putin's terrorism. The US isn't the only country helping Ukraine.

 

[Zavulon]

That's funny.

Stupid infidels never learn, except Trump, he is "Shaytan", the very worst enemy...

Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam

Are Muslims permitted to lie? What is taqiyya?

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Lies, Concealment, and Islam: Understanding Taqiyya Between History and Modern Misuses

By Dr. Othman El Kachtoul, Diplomat and Islamologist

abramundi.substack.com

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Yeah, okay, after Russia invades Ukraine, an independent country, you whine about the free world helping Ukraine battle Putin's terrorism. The US isn't the only country helping Ukraine.

And I don't say that US is the only country sponsoring terrorism. I just say that if the world can live with nuclear America and France - it can live with nuclear Iran, too.

 

[Concerned American]

And I don't say that US is the only country sponsoring terrorism. I just say that if the world can live with nuclear America and France - it can live with nuclear Iran, too.

So that this unhinged regime that has murdered 40K of their own people will have the offensive ability to terrorize the world with their religious fanaticism?