Zone1 Only Tax Payers should be allowed to vote

[Mr. Friscus]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

 

[sparky]

An interesting concept that can be extended in many directions Mr F

~S~

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We all pay tax.

Not all pay income tax.

 

[White 6]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Trump paid no taxes in 2020 and only $750 in 2016 and 2017, and I am pretty sure, he voted for himself.

 

[Lisa558]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Or, conversely, EVERYONE should have skin in the game.

Every non-disabled adult over 18 should have an AMT (Alternate Minimum Tax) of 1% of their income or $240, whichever is less. Welfare recipients can have $20 withheld every month.

 

[Lisa558]

Trump paid no taxes in 2020 and only $750 in 2016 and 2017, and I am pretty sure, he voted for himself.

And he paid tens of millions in other years, and the jobs he created also generated million in taxes.

 

[Greenbeard]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Electorally this would be a seismic shift, historically seniors have been extremely reliable voters. But it certainly would open the door to entitlement reforms that impact current beneficiaries.

 

[shockedcanadian]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Disagree. This would be a skewed election every time and might lead to a Oligarch, especially as governments would just spend excessively to employ people and buy their votes (this already happens in some corners).

If only employed people voted you would see even MORE outsourcing to slave labour nations. Now there is at least a motivated underclass who want their governments to work on domestic issues and success rather than other nations alone. This powerful class of disgruntled citizens, who have their finger on the pulse of a nations true health, maintain a powerful influence on governments and induce action rather than hollow promises.

 

[initforme]

If one is born in america and is a citizen that's enough right there to cast a vote. The rest is meaningless drivel.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Disagree. This would be a skewed election every time and might lead to a Oligarch, especially as governments would just spend excessively to employ people and buy their votes (this already happens in some corners).

If only employed people voted you would see even MORE outsourcing to slave labour nations. Now there is at least a motivated underclass who want their governments to work on domestic issues and success rather than other nations alone. This powerful class of disgruntled citizens, who have their finger on the pulse of a nations true health, maintain a powerful influence on governments and induce action rather than hollow promises.

An admittedly stark anaology is: It's like having a family of 2 parents and 3 children, and the 3 children outvote the 2 parents to blow all of their savings for some major purchase or vacation. Those that are responsible for maintaining the household (nation) need to be the ones who make the choice

 

[shockedcanadian]

An admittedly stark anaology is: It's like having a family of 2 parents and 3 children, and the 3 children outvote the 2 parents to blow all of their savings for some major purchase or vacation. Those that are responsible for maintaining the household (nation) need to be the ones who make the choice

DId you see how many new government jobs were "created" over the last number of years in every nation in the West?

Debt has never been an issue for government. It just allows them more to steal.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

DId you see how many new government jobs were "created" over the last number of years in every nation in the West?

Debt has never been an issue for government. It just allows them more to steal.

You sound like a solid Trumper up in Canada.

Conservatives don't think "Government first".

 

[shockedcanadian]

You sound like a solid Trumper up in Canada.

Conservatives don't think "Government first".

What is it with some of you Americans and your infatuation with labels.

I'm a human being with a moderate libertarian perspective that believes strongly in limited government, civil freedoms, accountable and transparent government.

I dont care if little green men from outer space land on earth and are elected leader of a nation. These policies are what I support and if these little green men supported such policies they would have my support.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

What is it with some of you Americans and your infatuation with labels.

I'm a human being with a moderate libertarian perspective that believes strongly in limited government, civil freedoms, accountable and transparent government.

I dont care if little green men from outer space land on earth and are elected leader of a nation. These policies are what I support and if these little green men supported such policies they would have my support.

I'm just pointing out that you're a major minority in your nation, and its sad. It would be insane if Trudeau's party got back in power after truckers were allowed to be cut off from society by government force because they protested.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm just pointing out that you're a major minority in your nation, and its sad. It would be insane if Trudeau's party got back in power after truckers were allowed to be cut off from society by government force because they protested.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

 

[Votto]

We all pay tax.

Not all pay income tax.

How about if you don't pay income tax you get 1/2 a vote?

 

[Crepitus]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

Everyone in the US is a taxpayer.

 

[San Souci]

If people are dependent on taxpayers, they shouldn't have the right to vote themselves more money from the taxpayers' pockets.

How to spend tax money should be made by those with skin in the game and paying it, not by people who are only taking from it.

YES! Those on Welfare should be treated as Children. Wards of the State.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I'm just pointing out that you're a major minority in your nation, and its sad. It would be insane if Trudeau's party got back in power after truckers were allowed to be cut off from society by government force because they protested.

Im a free thinker who has seen the worst of society. My opinion is a mixture of my DNA and experiences. More on the West will eventually appreciate those of my ilk. Its not my problem anymore, I did my best.

 

[my2¢]

For the sake of debate, I'll take side of non-taxpayers keeping their right to vote.
My argument is, if ever the draft is re-instituted, I feel non-taxpayers shouldn't be exempt.