Only in Alabama

[beautress]

There are other concepts out there, my friend Pete. And my grandma said "It takes TWO to tango!"

So pick your "dance partner" carefully...

I picked nothing, Vastator. Of the two combatant women, the authorities believed the one with the biggest bluff, and it happened to be the shooter. The person who was 5 months pregnant whose baby was destroyed with the several shots pumped into her belly is the "parner" who was ultimately blamed. People who tape misfortunes usually have failed to show the first utterance between the combatants, and "eyewitnesses" tend to favor the person who seems to be most in charge of the situation. And the victim was angry in the behalf of her 5 months of throwing up, giving up sleepless nights, a broken heart when he told her "so what, get the 'problem' fixed," and all else single pregnant women have to deal with, including a rival. Some things ain't piss, but if they haven't had any for 5 months, it may have accumulated to an explosion point. The victim, aside from having a baby in her tummy which her rival did away with, should likely be given the best treatment possible, considering all her losses and future disability thanks to her gun-toting, vengeful assailant, regardless of her stinging words. The woman with the gun should have been taught better the old adage, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." Unless the victim was armed with a machete or something.

Lots wrong there with your nearly incoherent emotional out burst. Not the least of which being your conflation of an all out assault on the victim with mere words. The pregnant ***** violently attacked the victim, and put her child in the crossfire. In Alabama you don't get a free pass to commit violent felonies because you're having a sad, not feeling well, or suffered a disappointment.

Few women in Alabama carry guns. This one was waiting for a confrontation, imho. All this fighting over a gigolo of an idiot, and one of them tries to get rid of the rival and her offspring with 5 bullets into the gut area where the baby--her real rival--was making growth progress. She knew the woman was pregnant, that's why she went for the gut--to inflict double punitive measure against her "rival." Where's the soup-for-brains father taking up for his kid?

That's a pretty elaborate fantasy. Including your assumptions about who carries. But it sounds like you've got some details the police don't. Maybe you should call them, and fill them in on what you know.

205-254-1700

Sorry, they've already made up their minds. The shooter gets off without so much as a wrist slap. That says it all. If you're concerned, you should make the call, and I don't care what you say.

 

[pismoe]

its simple to me , woman was being beaten , she pulled her gun to Stop from being beaten .

 

[Vastator]

So pick your "dance partner" carefully...

I picked nothing, Vastator. Of the two combatant women, the authorities believed the one with the biggest bluff, and it happened to be the shooter. The person who was 5 months pregnant whose baby was destroyed with the several shots pumped into her belly is the "parner" who was ultimately blamed. People who tape misfortunes usually have failed to show the first utterance between the combatants, and "eyewitnesses" tend to favor the person who seems to be most in charge of the situation. And the victim was angry in the behalf of her 5 months of throwing up, giving up sleepless nights, a broken heart when he told her "so what, get the 'problem' fixed," and all else single pregnant women have to deal with, including a rival. Some things ain't piss, but if they haven't had any for 5 months, it may have accumulated to an explosion point. The victim, aside from having a baby in her tummy which her rival did away with, should likely be given the best treatment possible, considering all her losses and future disability thanks to her gun-toting, vengeful assailant, regardless of her stinging words. The woman with the gun should have been taught better the old adage, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." Unless the victim was armed with a machete or something.

Lots wrong there with your nearly incoherent emotional out burst. Not the least of which being your conflation of an all out assault on the victim with mere words. The pregnant ***** violently attacked the victim, and put her child in the crossfire. In Alabama you don't get a free pass to commit violent felonies because you're having a sad, not feeling well, or suffered a disappointment.

Few women in Alabama carry guns. This one was waiting for a confrontation, imho. All this fighting over a gigolo of an idiot, and one of them tries to get rid of the rival and her offspring with 5 bullets into the gut area where the baby--her real rival--was making growth progress. She knew the woman was pregnant, that's why she went for the gut--to inflict double punitive measure against her "rival." Where's the soup-for-brains father taking up for his kid?

That's a pretty elaborate fantasy. Including your assumptions about who carries. But it sounds like you've got some details the police don't. Maybe you should call them, and fill them in on what you know.

205-254-1700

Sorry, they've already made up their minds. The shooter gets off without so much as a wrist slap. That says it all. If you're concerned, you should make the call, and I don't care what you say.

I'm not concerned. The police, and a grand jury of her peers have the situation well in hand.

 

[Vastator]

its simple to me , woman was being beaten , she pulled her gun to Stop from being beaten .

And it really doesn't have to be anymore complicated than that...

 

[Lysistrata]

yep , just as i suspected , this Lysis is a 'euro type' .

What is a "euro type" to be "suspected" of? Out with it! I am an American. Born and raised here. Neither of my parents had to be naturalized to become American citizens. My mother's parents did.

Just what are you bimbos talking about? We are all Americans here. Does one have to live on a ranch, be a bible fundamentalist, like country music, wear a big-brimmed hat to be an American? I got my Americanism in northern Jersey, with visits to the Museum of Art and Radio City. I grew up loving the Rockettes and Washington Square in Greenwich Village and the Lincoln Center. Chinatown. All firmly in the United States of America.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

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According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

 

[pismoe]

'euro types' aren't worth SPIT Lysis you 'euro type' !! [chuckle] Course all i really wanted to do was identify you as the 'euro type' that you are Lysis .

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Shot mum who miscarried is charged with manslaughter but shooter goes free

A MUM who miscarried her baby after she was shot five times in the abdomen has been charged with manslaughter - while the love rival who riddled her with bullets faces no action.

Cops in US state Alabama claim Marshae Jones, 27, endangered her unborn child by starting the fight that landed her in hospital.

If she had been armed she wouldnt have been going to jail. What a story. Encapsulating everything shit about the State.

It was the jury who decided this.

Probably to kill two birds with one stone, put in jail a black woman who is also not a gun owner. Or maybe three, black and woman is two, and the other woman was also black.

Seriously though, this is not justice and should be appealed. And the police is to blame, they brought the charges.

I read about this today.
Alabama police shot a teen dead, but his friend got 30 years for the murder

It truly is a fucked up place. No wonder Roy thought he was electable.

 

[pismoe]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

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According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

---------------------------------------- the lady Defender with the 'gun' had to STOP the attack in a very positive and surefire manner Tommy .

 

[Vastator]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

 

[pismoe]

fecked place , well you should talk eh ?? And one of your Soldiers , think he was on leave was beheaded on the street somewhere in 'london' a few years ago . Talk about a dreadful place where '2 imported muslims' behead an 'english' soldier thats on leave and in broad daylight and in front of a crowd . Too bad that none in the crowd of onlookers had a GUN to stop the beheading of the 'english' soldier Tommy .

 

[xyz]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

She could have shot a warning. Unless her goal was to kill the baby in the first place.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

lol...he doesn't really care about any of this, he just comes here to post that stuff, get his bottom spanked and then head off to his room.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

None. She could have walked away. No need for any shooting.

 

[Lysistrata]

'euro types' aren't worth SPIT Lysis you 'euro type' !! [chuckle] Course all i really wanted to do was identify you as the 'euro type' that you are Lysis .

You have not explained what a "euro type" American is. What "type" are you, pismoe?

 

[Vastator]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

She could have shot a warning. Unless her goal was to kill the baby in the first place.

Only an idiot who wants to risk death, and going to prison; fires a warning shot.

 

[pismoe]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

None. She could have walked away. No need for any shooting.

------------------------------------------------ but she didn't , looks like she acted legally is defense of her life Tommy and XYZ .

 

[Vastator]

The OP missed this......, police INITIALLY charged the shooter, but the JURY declined to indict her.

As usual, the OP twists the news story into a pretzel in order to prove her invalid misguided point.

1). The pregnant woman STARTED the altercation
2). The pregnant woman was physically over powering and beating the other woman
3). IN SELF DEFENSE - - - - - - the "victim" defended herself with a firearm. Killing the unborn.

Self Defense is allowed under the LAW.
38 states have laws protecting FETUSES. Yes, 38

Why should someone DEFENDING THEMSELVES be charged ? (They should not)
If the pregnant woman started the altercation, why should SHE not be held responsible for the consequences? (She SHOULD)

The pregnant woman, through HER actions, caused the death of the unborn. Guilty.
Seems reasonable and just.

Of course, Jeb can't stand it when people are to be held accountable for their own actions. God forbid.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
According to a report from Al.com, police initially charged Jemison with manslaughter over the shooting. But a jury declined to indict her, saying that Jones initiated the altercation and that Jemison was acting in self-defense when she shot at Jones.

At their core, these laws have always been about punishing, demonizing and criminalizing black, brown and low-income women. #MarshaeJoneshttps://t.co/sx2vFbobMz

— Cecile Richards (@CecileRichards) June 27, 2019
Local police argued that Jones deserved the blame not only for the shooting but also for not removing herself from the situation earlier. Pleasant Grove Police Lt. Danny Reid said that Jones allegedly “initiated and pressed the fight,” according to Al.com.

“Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection.” Alabama is one of 38 states with a fetal homicide law that recognizes a fetus as a potential victim of a crime against a pregnant woman.

Well the killer didnt have to shoot the victim 5 times. She could have walked or runaway. Pregnant women are not that fast on their feet. Shooting people is wrong. At least in civilised places

Given your voluminous experience in self defense shootings... Tell us... How many times would have been "appropriate" to stop the attack?

None. She could have walked away. No need for any shooting.

She "could have"? While someone was on top of her? Interesting. Could you explain to us how that would work inspector?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

None. She could have walked away. No need for any shooting.

and how would walking away stop the attacker from continuing the attack?

 

[pismoe]

'euro types' aren't worth SPIT Lysis you 'euro type' !! [chuckle] Course all i really wanted to do was identify you as the 'euro type' that you are Lysis .

You have not explained what a "euro type" American is. What "type" are you, pismoe?

-------------------------------- you have been identifyed as a 'euro type' by you own words and identification was all i wanted to do Lysis .