Zone1 One Truth: Should Society Maintain a Moral Compass?

[alang1216]

Influential among dimbulbs.

I wonder how many people will be talking about you in 150 years?

 

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I wonder how many people will be talking about you in 150 years?

There's a lot to be learned from reading Marx. For instance, did you know that he said, communism is naturalized humanism?

 

[Leo123]

Opinions swirl through society. There are many opinions, but one truth. Moral relativity (what is right for thee is not right for me) abounds. Those who uphold one truth over opinions are labeled judgmental, discriminatory, bigoted, merciless.

Society can either choose moral relativity or one truth. As far back as Biblical times, societies failed during times of moral relativity and struggled to return to the Rule of Law–or one truth.

What say you? With the “Equality Act”, Congress is pushing American society into moral relativity and even into government regulation/insistence of this moral relativity into churches and faith communities. Is moral relativity the answer, or should we be seeking a society that maintains its moral compass of one truth?

Without an agreed upon moral compass there can be no society.

 

[alang1216]

Sure, so what? Do whatever feels right, right?

Sure, just don't violate the Golden Rule.

Yeah those are consequences. So what? Is there inherently something wrong with having sex with a different woman than the one you are married to? Do whatever feels right, right?

Marriage is an agreement that it would feel wrong to violate. At least for me.

 

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Without an agreed upon moral compass there can be no society.

Sure there can. It just won't be a very pretty one.

 

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Sure, just don't violate the Golden Rule.

Why not?

Marriage is an agreement that it would feel wrong to violate. At least for me.

Why would it feel wrong?

 

[alang1216]

Not exactly. It was having a relationship with God in the present that makes suffering bearable. Karl was cynical like you, there's no way he would have acknowledged the power a relationship with God brings. People don't suspend their suffering for a promoise of future benefit. They end their suffering in the present by having a relationship with God in the present. You will never understand this and you will never experience it because your heart has been hardened to God.

Karl did acknowledge that power when he compared to the most powerful drug he knew.

That didn't sound like a ringing endorsement of atheism. Is that it? Nothing else?

Atheism is like NOT getting drunk. It doesn't make you happier, just clear-headed.

 

[alang1216]

Why not?

Why would it feel wrong?

It is just how I was raised and have come to be.

 

[Leo123]

Sure there can. It just won't be a very pretty one.

A society is a community of interdependent individuals, A society is also distinguished by mutual interests, shared institutions and common culture. None of that can occur without shared morals. Without all that there is only a dictatorship based on fear and punishment.

 

[Leo123]

Karl did acknowledge that power when he compared to the most powerful drug he knew.


Atheism is like NOT getting drunk. It doesn't make you happier, just clear-headed.

Atheism is just as much a belief as belief in God or a Creator. Some entity had to create life it didn't evolve from nothing.

 

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Karl did acknowledge that power when he compared to the most powerful drug he knew.

I'm sure you believe he did.

 

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Atheism is like NOT getting drunk. It doesn't make you happier, just clear-headed.

Neither is my faith. Nor is it like doing opium.

 

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It is just how I was raised and have come to be.

External locus of control. Interesting.

 

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A society is a community of interdependent individuals, A society is also distinguished by mutual interests, shared institutions and common culture. None of that can occur without shared morals. Without all that there is only a dictatorship based on fear and punishment.

An anarchist society is still a society.

 

[Leo123]

An anarchist society is still a society.

An anarchist vows to overthrow a civil government. That anarchist advocates the absence of hierarchy and/or authority. That is the opposite of a society. An 'anarchist society' is an oxymoron.

 

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Atheism is like NOT getting drunk.

It's much worse.

 

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An anarchist vows to overthrow a civil government. That anarchist advocates the absence of hierarchy and/or authority. That is the opposite of a society. An 'anarchist society' is an oxymoron.

Be that as it may, a society without a moral compass would be anarchy.

 

[Leo123]

Be that as it may, a society without a moral compass would be anarchy.

There is no anarchist society unless you want to start re-defining the meaning of a society which would be a truly Marxist thing to do.

 

[alang1216]

Atheism is just as much a belief as belief in God or a Creator. Some entity had to create life it didn't evolve from nothing.

How do you know that the natural fundamental forces of the universe didn't create life without any external (supernatural) assist?

 

[alang1216]

Neither is my faith. Nor is it like doing opium.

So you've done opium?