One simple question for MAGA. Do you support Trump's support for Putin in the Ukraine Situation?

[martybegan]

Russia is collapsing or they wouldn’t be talking. Ukrainians are against the deal proposed by Trump, because they’d be doing all the giving and Russia would escape without consequence. The “winning” is mostly propaganda and actually reveals Russia’s weakness. They’re the ones begging for a deal!

Russia has been "collapsing" for over 2 years now. They simply have too many internal natural resources to be sanctioned to death.

Sanctions worked in South Africa because there were points of attack, industrial hardware, military hardware, and the majority of the population was against the government. None of that applies to Russia.

You sound like the Japanese newspapers in 1942/43 ignoring Midway and calling the withdrawal from Guadalcanal "a troop transfer"

 

[Seymour Flops]

Biden put sanctions on Russia and sent to Ukraine weapons for them to be able to defend themselves. What else could he do?

Is that what you want Trump to do then? For his whole four years? How many lives with that cost instead of negotiating a settlement now?

31,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed already. You really want four more years of that? And for what at the end of those four years?

 

[konradv]

Russia has been "collapsing" for over 2 years now. They simply have too many internal natural resources to be sanctioned to death.

Sanctions worked in South Africa because there were points of attack, industrial hardware, military hardware, and the majority of the population was against the government. None of that applies to Russia.

You sound like the Japanese newspapers in 1942/43 ignoring Midway and calling the withdrawal from Guadalcanal "a troop transfer"

Quitter. You would have given the Japanese the Philippines and hid behind out oceans!

 

[NetJedi]

Biden put sanctions on Russia and sent to Ukraine weapons for them to be able to defend themselves. What else could he do?

Negotiate an end to the war, LIKE TRUMP IS DOING, All Biden did was damage the credibility of the U.S. financial system and waste a lot of American Taxpayer Money prolonging the war.

Are you really this clueless?

 

[martybegan]

Is that what you want Trump to do then? For his whole four years? How many lives with that cost instead of negotiating a settlement now?

31,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed already. You really want four more years of that? And for what at the end of those four years?

And to put it into a number Americans can understand, that's the same as the US having 283,000 troops killed.

 

[hadit]

We have no choice but to tell Trump NO!

You don't want to end the war?

 

[konradv]

Negotiate an end to the war, LIKE TRUMP IS DOING, All Biden did was damage the credibility of the U.S. financial system and waste a lot of American Taxpayer Money prolonging the war.

Are you really this clueless?

Trump isn’t negotiating an end to war; he’s trying to negotiate a surrender.

STAND WITH UKRAINE

 

[konradv]

You don't want to end the war?

All Putin has to do is leave and it’s over.

 

[martybegan]

All Putin has to do is leave and it’s over.

All the US had to do after Pearl Harbor was let Japan keep all it took in the first 6 months of the war, and it would have been over.....

 

[Cellblock2429]

It is quite evident that Trump loves or admires Putin and that he is in favor of him over our allies of many years.

Here is the latest example of that:

US votes against condemning Russia for Ukraine war as Trump admin chases peace deal. Russia, North Korea join US in voting against Europe-backed Ukrainian resolution at the UN​

NATO has always been an ally of the United States. How is it possible that Trump has now gone against NATO and in favor of Russia?

In the last 5 days, here are 2 statements from Trump

Trump calls Zelensky 'dictator' as rift between two leaders deepens

Trump refuses to call Putin a dictator after Zelensky attack: ‘I don’t use those words

So tell me, are you for or against Trump in this situation?

/----/ Trump is bringing two obstinate rulers to the negotiating table, and it's working. He's made 100 times more progress than Dementia Joe did or was even capable of doing. AND YOU CAN'T STAND IT.

 

[hadit]

All Putin has to do is leave and it’s over.

And TRUMP! is negotiating a way for that to happen, yet you want to stop him from doing that.

 

[konradv]

And TRUMP! is negotiating a way for that to happen, yet you want to stop him from doing that.

What negotiation? Trump and Putin are trying to strong-arm Ukraine.

 

[konradv]

All the US had to do after Pearl Harbor was let Japan keep all it took in the first 6 months of the war, and it would have been over.....

I’m confused! Are you pro-quitter or anti-quitter?

 

[hadit]

What negotiation? Trump and Putin are trying to strong-arm Ukraine.

How? You haven't heard a word they've said yet.

 

[konradv]

How? You haven't heard a word they've said yet.

Being forced to give up natural resources for peace sounds like strong arm tactics to me.

 

[CowboyTed]

What premise is that?

The situation is clearly stated.................by Trump.

He thinks Zelenski is a dictator but Putin is not. He is in favor of Russia in the fight against Ukraine (his vote in NATO and his statements about Putin and Zelenski are clearly stated.................by Trump)

So explain to me your use of the word meaningless, when the future of Ukraine is at stake?

Or are you simply not answering the question because you do not want to address the problem?

Way I see it...

Trump will pull US out of NATO

NATO will let in Ukraine...

Trump will have surrendered US influence across the world...

China will be looking at Taiwan as they know Trump ain't going to fight.. This sends a message to the world, that China or EU are the only ones to have your back in a fight, so do business with them...
Decades of soft power flushed down the toilet but more importantly, US will know what it feels like to walk into an international conference and be told to sit down and shut up... Adults are only allowed to speak.

 

[CowboyTed]

Being forced to give up natural resources for peace sounds like strong arm tactics to me.

Well, it is an 'offer you can't refuse' from a convicted felon...

Are we surprised that the Convicted felon is trying to be a gangster punk inside a month..

 

[Luckyone]

Negotiate an end to the war, LIKE TRUMP IS DOING, All Biden did was damage the credibility of the U.S. financial system and waste a lot of American Taxpayer Money prolonging the war.

Are you really this clueless?

Well, what I am seeing from your post is that you support invasions of other countries and killing of innocent people without any reason.

You call me clueless?, I call you immoral, unethical, unprincipled and inhumane

 

[martybegan]

I’m confused! Are you pro-quitter or anti-quitter?

I'm saying your thinking of "all Russia has to do is quit" is idiotic when shown the history of conflict.

 

[Luckyone]

Is that what you want Trump to do then? For his whole four years? How many lives with that cost instead of negotiating a settlement now?

31,000 Ukrainian soldiers killed already. You really want four more years of that? And for what at the end of those four years?

Another 4 years of Russia fighting will mean another million+ of their soldiers will be killed, billions will be spent by Russia and it would likely be the end of Putin being the ruler of Russia. I think that would be worth it