One simple question for MAGA. Do you support Trump's support for Putin in the Ukraine Situation?

[Missourian]

Basically, give up on humanity and defending freedom with money becoming the decider

Other people's money.

How much have YOU PERSONALLY given to Ukraine?

You'll happily flush taxpayers money down the drain then cry "why are these bridges collapsing?", "why is the retirement age for Social Security increasing?", "Why don't we have National Basic Healthcare?"...let's tax those other people more so I can piss it away then come back for more.

You lefties never learned that MONEY is a resource just like food, water, gasoline, wood. You have to ration it. You use it when it does YOU the most good. How much has Ukraine sent US? Or Germany, or France. Fuck, we can't even get those fucks to live up to there measley commitments to NATO without twisting their arms.

We give $567 million dollars to NATO.

"In February, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said he expected 18 of 31 allies to reach the 2% spending target in 2024."

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We give 3.5% of our GDP... and Russia ain't never going to attack us. They just barely handled Ukraine.

Does it sound like they are serious about their own defense???

And they never will be, as long as WE are willing to carry them...and spend $800 billion of our tax dollars to field a standing military that could literally destroy the world.

Time to let EUROPE handle the defense of Europe. We'll handle the defense of North America.

 

[Luckyone]

Other people's money.

How much have YOU PERSONALLY given to Ukraine?

You'll happily flush taxpayers money down the drain then cry "why are these bridges collapsing?", "why is the retirement age for Social Security increasing?", "Why don't we have National Basic Healthcare?"...let's tax those other people more so I can piss it away then come back for more.

You lefties never learned that MONEY is a resource just like food, water, gasoline, wood. You have to ration it. You use it when it does YOU the most good. How much has Ukraine sent US? Or Germany, or France. Fuck, we can't even get those fucks to live up to there measley commitments to NATO without twisting their arms.

We give $567 million dollars to NATO.

"In February, NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said he expected 18 of 31 allies to reach the 2% spending target in 2024."

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www.reuters.com

We give 3.5% of our GDP... and Russia ain't never going to attack us. They just barely handled Ukraine.

Does it sound like they are serious about their own defense???

And they never will be, as long as WE are willing to carry them...and spend $800 billion of our tax dollars to field a standing military that could literally destroy the world.

Time to let EUROPE handle the defense of Europe. We'll handle the defense of North America.

You just PROVED my point. Your post is all about money. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity has no importance

 

[Luckyone]

Not true. Putin is not a nice man. He loves his nation though. Just like Progs hate the United States. We need to become more efficient with the dollars we use. If Putin attacked the original NATO nations without NATO causing that cause of action, I would agree with you.

Your post is all about money. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity be damned

 

[Correll]

You just PROVED my point. Your post is all about money. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity has no importance

YOU brought up money, not him.

 

[Luckyone]

YOU brought up money, not him.

No, I did not bring it up. Trump did

 

[Correll]

No, I did not bring it up. Trump did

Trump also said that his primary goal was for the people to stop dying.

That is his stated motive.

You want to discuss that? Or distract from it?

 

[Missourian]

You just PROVED my point. Your post is all about money. Morals, ethics, principles and humanity has no importance

You just proved my point.

You personally have committed not one red cent to the defense of Ukraine. Just like Ukraine you believe you're ENTITLED to other people's money.

Did you see how much Ukraine increased their defense spending after Russia annexed Crimea???

Let me show you...

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RUSSIA TOOK PART OF THEIR COUNTRY!!!

AND WHAT DID THEY DO???

For six years they didn't give a single fuck Russia took Crimea. Didn't start building up their military, didn't institute emergency measures...just fucked off.

Who is going to care more about your country than you?

If you don't give a fuck about your defense, why should I???

WE made it a priority. And because we did, everyone expects US to come to their rescue.

That is done and over with.

You want out help? You better start by helping yourself. Make some sacrifices for your security.

You fuck off for six years after another country snatches a piece of yours... then turn off the fresh water and expect us to save you? Think again.

 

[blackhawk]

What it is the Trump critics solution to deal with the Ukraine war? I see four options.
1- Continue the status quo we have been doing which is just enough to keep Russia from overrunning the country but not enough to drive them out ensuring the death, destruction and suffering continues indefinitely.
2- The U.S. and all other nations end all aid to Ukraine and let the two countries fight it out which ends with Russia taking over the country not a realistic option.
3- The U.S. and NATO go all in helping Ukraine drive Russia out which would most likely require boots on the ground also not a realistic option.
4- We try and work out a negotiated peace deal between the nations this would be something where neither side gets everything they want or is 100% happy with which is generally how negotiations go.
For all who's only idea about how to deal with the war is to endlessly bitch, piss, whine, moan and complain about Trump do the world a favor and take a big flying leap off the top of mount go fuck yourself.

 

[konradv]

Is Zelensky willing to meet with Putin?

Depends on how much Putin is willing to offer for the return of Kursk.

 

[konradv]

Who's Kesha?

Go back to sleep, grandpa!

 

[martybegan]

Pure Russian propaganda.

It's reality, something you clods ignore on a daily basis.

 

[martybegan]

Depends on how much Putin is willing to offer for the return of Kursk.

Kursk Oblast, not Kursk and Russia has already recovered most of what was taken back in August 2024.

 

[Luckyone]

You just proved my point.

You personally have committed not one red cent to the defense of Ukraine. Just like Ukraine you believe you're ENTITLED to other people's money.

Did you see how much Ukraine increased their defense spending after Russia annexed Crimea???

Let me show you...

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World Bank Open Data

Free and open access to global development data

data.worldbank.org

RUSSIA TOOK PART OF THEIR COUNTRY!!!

AND WHAT DID THEY DO???

For six years they didn't give a single fuck Russia took Crimea. Didn't start building up their military, didn't institute emergency measures...just fucked off.

Who is going to care more about your country than you?

If you don't give a fuck about your defense, why should I???

WE made it a priority. And because we did, everyone expects US to come to their rescue.

That is done and over with.

You want out help? You better start by helping yourself. Make some sacrifices for your security.

You fuck off for six years after another country snatches a piece of yours... then turn off the fresh water and expect us to save you? Think again.

I pay taxes so I do participate money-wise. Nonetheless, This not about money but about defending freedom and right to life. Russia invaded Ukraine and killed innocent people. They broke life's rules and if we do not defend it we do not value those and if we do not value those, we are nothing as a country

 

[Luckyone]

Trump also said that his primary goal was for the people to stop dying.

That is his stated motive.

You want to discuss that? Or distract from it?

If that is his goal, then you go AGAINST the killer. You do not say "we forgive you for all the people you have killed if you stop killing"

 

[ThisIsMe]

Go back to sleep, grandpa!

Who the hell is Kesha? You brought her up?!? Lol

 

[NetJedi]

It is quite evident that Trump loves or admires Putin and that he is in favor of him over our allies of many years.

How is it evident? You mean because he doesn't engage in virtue signaling by calling him nasty names IN THE MIDDLE OF PEACE NEGOTATIONS?

He'll leave the virtual signaling vitriol to you Warhawks on the left, he's busy putting an end to a war that your boy Joey was too stupid to prevent in the first place.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do Democrats have a plan for all the money they want Trump to spend defending Ukraine?

Like "send them $XB and then the Ukrainains will do _________________ and the Ruskies will leave?" If so, please state that plan.

I suspect the plan is "Putin BAD. Orange Man BAD. Keep demanding Trump spend OPM on a losing cause, so we can have something to cry about when he doesn't!"

If not, describe the end game.

 

[martybegan]

Do Democrats have a plan for all the money they want Trump to spend defending Ukraine?

Like "send them $XB and then the Ukrainains will do _________________ and the Ruskies will leave?" If so, please state that plan.

I suspect the plan is "Putin BAD. Orange Man BAD. Keep demanding Trump spend OPM on a losing cause, so we can have something to cry about when he doesn't!"

If not, describe the end game.

They are expecting to wear down a country a beat them, against a country that has never been beaten by being worn down.

The same applies to the Ukrainians, same basic cultural stock.

Most of Russia's losses have been by decisive battle, where at the point they decided it wasn't worth it and settled for limited concessions.

 

[NetJedi]

Do Democrats have a plan for all the money they want Trump to spend defending Ukraine?

Yeah they do, keep spending American Taxpayer Money up until the point where it becomes necessary to start spending American Blood in WW III.

They don't care how much it costs as long as they get their fill of bloodshed, Warhawks gotta Warhawk.

 

[konradv]

Kursk Oblast, not Kursk and Russia has already recovered most of what was taken back in August 2024.

Ukraine will be needing compensation for the invasion. What are Trump and Putin offering?