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Socialists/Progressives are such assholes. All that snotty hateful Anti-Christian stuff has gotten so old and tiresome. This lawsuit is such Bullshit. I really do hope these people are made to reimburse the community when they lose. It's ridiculous & frivolous.

They're being excluded due to gov't endorsement of religion dummy.

Current case law maintains that ‘under god’ is Constitutional, that Congress’ intent was secular, and not intended to promote religion.

Pledge of Allegiance in Schools Ruled Constitutional on Appeal - Bloomberg

Of course children can not be compelled to say the pledge, nor may they be punished for wishing to opt out. See:
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette

This can prove problematic for a child, needless to say, as already pointed out. But the suit is likely to fail, unfortunately.

I read a story in the paper where a young girl had to go stand out in the hallway so the drones could recite the "amended" (god added in 1954) pledge. Aint that marvelous? It was adopted to counter the red scare. Reminds me of Orwellian group think. Take it out.

 

[del]

Socialists/Progressives are such assholes. All that snotty hateful Anti-Christian stuff has gotten so old and tiresome. This lawsuit is such Bullshit. I really do hope these people are made to reimburse the community when they lose. It's ridiculous & frivolous.

You moron. You are aware that it was a socialist the got "under God" in the pledge?

Socialism is not atheism, anymore than conservatism is Christianity.

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

 

[Ravi]

This nation has done exceptionally well for over 200 years with God's Name being invoked.

Now, because we have a high number of over-sensitive whiny atheists, we're expected to remove it all??

The freedom to say His name is what helped shore up your right to be a selfish *****.
Yen and Yang

On pledge for about 60 years....on money about 100 years. Not how we started....seems to me the whiney ones are those that had it CHANGED to get their god some advertising.

"Creator", "God"....same diff

We used to be unafraid to say His name.
Now, with the arrival of extreme PC, we kick Him to the curb.

Not a wise move IMO

Damn. The founders were afraid to say his name since they called him the creator. What a bunch of progressive fucktards they were.

I can't help but laugh over the fact that most of you nuts would be peeing your pants if "under God" was changed to "under Allah."

 

[Againsheila]

On pledge for about 60 years....on money about 100 years. Not how we started....seems to me the whiney ones are those that had it CHANGED to get their god some advertising.

"Creator", "God"....same diff

We used to be unafraid to say His name.
Now, with the arrival of extreme PC, we kick Him to the curb.

Not a wise move IMO

Damn. The founders were afraid to say his name since they called him the creator. What a bunch of progressive fucktards they were.

I can't help but laugh over the fact that most of you nuts would be peeing your pants if "under God" was changed to "under Allah."

Allah is the Arabic word for God.

If our founders were so afraid to say his name, why did they set it up so congress would start with a prayer?

 

[Ravi]

"Creator", "God"....same diff

We used to be unafraid to say His name.
Now, with the arrival of extreme PC, we kick Him to the curb.

Not a wise move IMO

Damn. The founders were afraid to say his name since they called him the creator. What a bunch of progressive fucktards they were.

I can't help but laugh over the fact that most of you nuts would be peeing your pants if "under God" was changed to "under Allah."

Allah is the Arabic word for God.

If our founders were so afraid to say his name, why did they set it up so congress would start with a prayer?

"They" didn't. That was set up a few years later.

 

[hortysir]

Nothing so fuzzy as "this or that," employment law is established, and what they're insisting on is the right to discriminate. everybody means everybody, and it is THEY who are looking for special privilege.

Don't apply. Simple.


See how easy that is?

it didnt actually take that long, but thank you for proving that what you guys where opposing with Obama was never about free speech. It was and always has been about control and wanting it your way.

Control?
You mean like a Mandate?

 

[Peach]

Socialists/Progressives are such assholes. All that snotty hateful Anti-Christian stuff has gotten so old and tiresome. This lawsuit is such Bullshit. I really do hope these people are made to reimburse the community when they lose. It's ridiculous & frivolous.

You moron. You are aware that it was a socialist the got "under God" in the pledge?

Socialism is not atheism, anymore than conservatism is Christianity.

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Damn. The founders were afraid to say his name since they called him the creator. What a bunch of progressive fucktards they were.

I can't help but laugh over the fact that most of you nuts would be peeing your pants if "under God" was changed to "under Allah."

Allah is the Arabic word for God.

If our founders were so afraid to say his name, why did they set it up so congress would start with a prayer?

"They" didn't. That was set up a few years later.

Sorry to tell you this but you're wrong, the prayers started before the Revolutionary War ended...

 

[Dr.Drock]

You moron. You are aware that it was a socialist the got "under God" in the pledge?

Socialism is not atheism, anymore than conservatism is Christianity.

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

Like Del said, imagine a 6 year old who didn't want to say the pledge cuz of the word god. You think that's inclusive or divisive? You think there's a chance a teacher who's religious wouldn't give that kid a fair shake?

The Knights of Columbus putting this into the pledge should tell everyone all they need to know about gov't endorsing religion in this instance. K of C is a great organization don't get me wrong.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I stand corrected. Yes, the KOC should be given credit for "under God." It was Christian Bellamy, a Christian Socialist Baptist minister pastor who wrote the original pledge in 1892.

The Pledge of Allegiance - A Short History

 

[hortysir]

Funny to hear a Dem be anti-mandate

 

[Againsheila]

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

Like Del said, imagine a 6 year old who didn't want to say the pledge cuz of the word god. You think that's inclusive or divisive? You think there's a chance a teacher who's religious wouldn't give that kid a fair shake?

The Knights of Columbus putting this into the pledge should tell everyone all they need to know about gov't endorsing religion in this instance. K of C is a great organization don't get me wrong.

When I was in the 3rd grade, there was a girl in my class who was here from England. She stood everyday for the pledge but never said it. When I asked why she didn't say it, she said "this isn't my country". When I asked her why should stood, she said, "out of respect for your country."

I learned a lot from that little girl, just wish some others would learn the same lesson. Can you imagine one of our leaders going to another country and not standing for their pledge or anthym?

 

[Valerie]

You moron. You are aware that it was a socialist the got "under God" in the pledge?

Socialism is not atheism, anymore than conservatism is Christianity.

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

I can't ever imagine being the one to sue over something like that, but people do have the right to push such issues when they find themselves affected...In principle, these people have a legitimate complaint.

 

[Dr.Drock]

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

Like Del said, imagine a 6 year old who didn't want to say the pledge cuz of the word god. You think that's inclusive or divisive? You think there's a chance a teacher who's religious wouldn't give that kid a fair shake?

The Knights of Columbus putting this into the pledge should tell everyone all they need to know about gov't endorsing religion in this instance. K of C is a great organization don't get me wrong.

When I was in the 3rd grade, there was a girl in my class who was here from England. She stood everyday for the pledge but never said it. When I asked why she didn't say it, she said "this isn't my country". When I asked her why should stood, she said, "out of respect for your country."

I learned a lot from that little girl, just wish some others would learn the same lesson. Can you imagine one of our leaders going to another country and not standing for their pledge or anthym?

What if a 3rd grader doesn't stand because they don't want to say a pledge that includes god, cuz they don't believe in one?

Is that inclusive, or divisive?

We're not talking about leaders, we're talking about kids.

 

[Dr.Drock]

no it wasn't. a socialist wrote the original pledge; it was the knights of columbus that pushed for the addition of under god

It is a SMALL group of radical atheists wanting the word "GOD' removed from everything; most atheists do not seem to care, as this group remains tiny. Why they cannot ignore the words is frustrating. Their lawsuits do use valuable resources.

I can't ever imagine being the one to sue over something like that, but people do have the right to push such issues when they find themselves affected...In principle, these people have a legitimate complaint.

That's what I think, I don't believe in any god and i don't care if the word is there or not. But those who do have a legitimate complaint.

Imagine if the pledge went "under no god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

People would be rioting in the streets, but when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't understand.

 

[SFC Ollie]

There is no what if's.........

Now, if a child refuses to stand for the pledge then I would say that the teacher has a responsibility to work with the child and the childs parents to teach that child the respect for others in the room.

They shouldn't be forced to say or even learn the pledge, but when it is being said they should at least learn the respect to stand quietly.

I'm sure some of you have a problem with that to. Too bad for you.

 

[GWV5903]

ACTON (CBS) – The Pledge of Allegiance is becoming a sore subject in the Acton-Boxborough school district, all because of the words “under God.”

“Atheists and Humanists do not accept the notion of God,” says attorney David Niose.

An Acton family, who is atheist and chooses to remain anonymous, is suing the school district claiming they are discriminating against their children during the pledge. They want the words “under God” taken out

Acton Family Wants “Under God” Removed From Pledge Of Allegiance « CBS Boston

thoughts?

Tell them to stop watching Bill Maher, MSNBC and take some Excedrin PM...

What's really amazing about this fringe group is their hatred of the words "Under God", the words have a good meaning...

The real question should be when are we going to recognize "Under God" represents many religious beliefs and if you're an Atheist skip the words or just don't recite it at all, grow up or shut up...

 

[Nosmo King]

ACTON (CBS) – The Pledge of Allegiance is becoming a sore subject in the Acton-Boxborough school district, all because of the words “under God.”

“Atheists and Humanists do not accept the notion of God,” says attorney David Niose.

An Acton family, who is atheist and chooses to remain anonymous, is suing the school district claiming they are discriminating against their children during the pledge. They want the words “under God” taken out

Acton Family Wants “Under God” Removed From Pledge Of Allegiance « CBS Boston

thoughts?

Tell them to stop watching Bill Maher, MSNBC and take some Excedrin PM...

What's really amazing about this fringe group is their hatred of the words "Under God", the words have a good meaning...

The real question should be when are we going to recognize "Under God" represents many religious beliefs and if you're an Atheist skip the words or just don't recite it at all, grow up or shut up...

e pluribus unum

 

[Dr.Drock]

There is no what if's.........

Now, if a child refuses to stand for the pledge then I would say that the teacher has a responsibility to work with the child and the childs parents to teach that child the respect for others in the room.

They shouldn't be forced to say or even learn the pledge, but when it is being said they should at least learn the respect to stand quietly.

I'm sure some of you have a problem with that to. Too bad for you.

So the non-believer should be taught to show respect for the believers, but the believers not taught to show respect for the non-believer.


Somehow that post of yours didn't surprise me.

 

[Valerie]

The story in the OP is not about any fringe group, it is the complaint of one family.

If it were my child expressing to me that he didn't want to say" under God", I would not sue anybody, I would downplay it and suggest he say it his own way and leave out the phrase, BUT you all need to realize not every issue is all about you You YOU.

This family has a legitimate legal complaint and despite any of our opinions of their course of action, it is not some evil liberal conspiracy against you and your God (mine too!)...They have every right to pursue the issue.

“Atheists and Humanists do not accept the notion of God,” says attorney David Niose.

An Acton family, who is atheist and chooses to remain anonymous, is suing the school district claiming they are discriminating against their children during the pledge. They want the words “under God” taken out.


Niose says, “Everyday these kids go to school and the pledge is recited and declaring that the nation is in fact under God and that marginalizes them.”



But according state law, schools are required to display the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance. But saying the pledge is strictly voluntary for students.

“Students have a right to not say it all, the entire pledge,” says Superintendent Stephen Mills. “I would be acting illegally if the kids didn’t say pledge of allegiance.”

Acton Family Wants “Under God” Removed From Pledge Of Allegiance « CBS Boston